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RE: (erielack) Latest Diamond Photo of DL&W "F5" 8451
A big "duh" on my part - I narrowed down the date even more with my second comment! :)
So the Diamond photo would have to have been taken in a short timeframe - between around 10/61 and 3/63.
- Paul
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul R. Tupaczewski [mailto:paultup_@_comcast.net]
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 2:52 PM
> To: 'EL Mail List'
> Subject: RE: (erielack) Latest Diamond Photo of DL&W "F5" 8451
>
> Don,
>
> You are spot-on with your observation. The number is the
> tip-off that this is a post-merger photo. Based on the fact
> that the lower headlight has not been plated over yet, this
> photo's date would be between October 1960 and March 1963
> (photographic evidence shows the lower headlight was plated
> over by that point).
>
> Neither DL&W nor Erie added the maintenance ladders on the
> front; these were added by the EL starting around October of 1961.
>
> - Paul
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don Liotta [mailto:donaldliotta_@_gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:05 PM
> > To: 'EL Mail List'
> > Subject: (erielack) Latest Diamond Photo of DL&W "F5" 8451
> >
> > I was reading the description of the photo of the "F5"at the
> > Binghamton station on p. 17 of the latest Diamond. It says
> the photo
> > is probably from the late 50's and is of the westbound Twilight.
> >
> > It appears to me that the photo is probably from the early
> 60s, given
> > that the unit has an EL number (8451) and the handrail
> arrangement on
> > the nose look like something done after the E-L merger. It makes me
> > ask the question
> > - did any Erie or DL&W engine ever get the handrails redone
> with the
> > "ladder" arrangement on the left of the nose prior to the merger?
> >
> > Also, what clues in the photo would tell someone that this is the
> > Twilight?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Don Liotta
>
>
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