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RE: (erielack) Latest Diamond Photo of DL&W "F5" 8451

Don,

You are spot-on with your observation. The number is the tip-off that this
is a post-merger photo. Based on the fact that the lower headlight has not
been plated over yet, this photo's date would be between October 1960 and
March 1963 (photographic evidence shows the lower headlight was plated over
by that point).

Neither DL&W nor Erie added the maintenance ladders on the front; these were
added by the EL starting around October of 1961.

	- Paul


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Liotta [mailto:donaldliotta_@_gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:05 PM
> To: 'EL Mail List'
> Subject: (erielack) Latest Diamond Photo of DL&W "F5" 8451
> 
> I was reading the description of the photo of the "F5"at the 
> Binghamton station on p. 17 of the latest Diamond. It says 
> the photo is probably from the late 50's and is of the 
> westbound Twilight.
> 
> It appears to me that the photo is probably from the early 
> 60s, given that the unit has an EL number (8451) and the 
> handrail arrangement on the nose look like something done 
> after the E-L merger. It makes me ask the question
> - did any Erie or DL&W engine ever get the handrails redone 
> with the "ladder" arrangement on the left of the nose prior 
> to the merger?
> 
> Also, what clues in the photo would tell someone that this is 
> the Twilight?
> 
> Thanks,
> Don Liotta


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