Re: (rshsdepot) B&O Royal Blue Line at Whitehall Ferry

["Steven Delibert" <stevdel_@_prodigy.net>]

rshsdepot
    Mea culpa.  What I said was, "Staten Island Ferry Terminal at Whitehall
Street", which is probably ambiguous, and comes from Manhattan-centric
thinking that nobody Brooklish like me should indulge.
    What I meant was something like, "the terminal at the South
Ferry/Whitehall Street, Manhattan, end of the South Ferry - St. George ferry
line".
    Sorry if I sent anybody off on a tangent.  "Loose lips sink railroad
fans  . . . ?"
    Please, Jim & Seth, both of whom I have never met and both of whom I
like, both of whom obviously have a very considerable depth of knowledge to
share with the rest of us, & both of whom also obviously have great talent
for creative invective which I would enjoy in other circumstances, save the
ammo for those gasoline-&-rubber-tire folks; we railroad people are a small
enough minority already.
    Steve Delibert
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Seth Bramson <sbramson_@_bellsouth.net>
To: James R. Guthrie <jguthrie_@_pipeline.com>
Cc: <rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) B&O Royal Blue Line at Whitehall Ferry


> rshsdepot
> Jim:
> I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here.  Steve or Paul sent
> the photo and stated it showed Staten Island, now you are saying it is NOT
> S. I., but, rather, the Whitehall ferry terminal which was on Manhattan
> Island.  I would appreciate it if you or somebody else, particularly Steve
> or Paul, would verify the location of the photo, as, if I read correctly,
> it did say it was the Staten Island terminal, not the Whitehall/South
> Ferry terminal.  Gentlemen, can we reach a definitive answer, please.
>
>
> > It shows the pre-1905 Whitehall ferry terminal with the Royal Blue
> > Line Ferry connection for the Third Avenue El that  described in an
> > earlier post. You might want to also consult Baxter's book on the
> > Hudson River Ferries for further description of this operation. And
> > Whitehall Street Ferry=South Ferry since the days of the Commodore.
> > South Ferry was the IRT name; Whitehall Street is the BRT/BMT name.
> >
> > Fixations on off-line city ticket offices notwithstanding
>
> You have a way with words, Jim.  Unfortunately, and too often, that "way"
> comes across as snide, overbearing, and condescending.  I don't think you
> really mean it that way, but your unilateral use of words such as
> "irrelevant" and "fixations" might and could be misread as being cynical
> and nasty, and perhaps you might consider--and be willing to-- tone down
> the use of said phraseology.  Believe it or not, there are people on this
> list who are at your level of both knowledge and intelligence, but convey
> same without being demeaning or offensive to others.
>
>

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