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RE: (erielack) EL empty car waybill
Gordon, please define "record rights."
TIA
SGL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Davids [mailto:g.davids_@_verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:37 PM
> To: Brian J Carlson; 'EL Mail List'
> Subject: Re: (erielack) EL empty car waybill
>
> Oh, Yes! Many times, every day, in every place. And if we got a car at
> Port Morris without record rights, it moved toward home under a default
> rule of "to or in the direction of." From Westchester Ave, it went in a
> Selkirk Empty block, and then they had to deal with it.
>
> Also in that regard, and related slightly to the Erie, the New York
> Central dumped most of its New Haven system empties, that is, cars that
> were home on the NH, back to the New Haven at Campbell Hall (using
> trackage rights on the Erie from Montgomery) regardless of record
> rights. Most of the NYC system empties from the New Haven and
> connections went to the NYC at Boston, Worcester or Springfield. Record
> rights didn't govern empty car returns at direct connections.
>
> Erie and NH would exchange system empties at Maybrook under the same
> procedure. In those days, per diem was paid by the railroad that held
> the car at midnight. There was usually an agreement governing
> situations where one railroad delivered to another. I don't know for
> sure, but it would be typical that the NH would be the handling line for
> all cars in trains where the headlight of the lead Erie locomotive
> passed onto the NH at Campbell Hall before midnight, and the Erie would
> pay the per diem when all the cars in an Erie train at Maybrook were
> declared by the New Haven as ready for movement (coupled up with power
> and caboose, if available, and air test complete) before midnight.
> There might have been even more detailed conditions that I'm not aware of.
>
> Gordon Davids
>
> Brian J Carlson wrote:
> > And when a yardmaster needed an empty to say load a carload of widgets in
> > Youngstown for Boston and all he had was that Westbound SP empty boxcar it
> > was loaded and sent east, car service rules be damned.
> >
> > Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
> > Cheektowaga NY
> >
> >
> >
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