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Re: (erielack) EL empty car waybill



Oh, Yes!  Many times, every day, in every place.  And if we got a car at 
Port Morris without record rights, it moved toward home under a default 
rule of "to or in the direction of."  From Westchester Ave, it went in a 
Selkirk Empty block, and then they had to deal with it.

Also in that regard, and related slightly to the Erie, the New York 
Central dumped most of its New Haven system empties, that is, cars that 
were home on the NH, back to the New Haven at Campbell Hall (using 
trackage rights on the Erie from Montgomery) regardless of record 
rights.  Most of the NYC system empties from the New Haven and 
connections went to the NYC at Boston, Worcester or Springfield.  Record 
rights didn't govern empty car returns at direct connections.

Erie and NH would exchange system empties at Maybrook under the same 
procedure.  In those days, per diem was paid by the railroad that held 
the car at midnight.  There was usually an agreement governing 
situations where one railroad delivered to another.  I don't know for 
sure, but it would be typical that the NH would be the handling line for 
all cars in trains where the headlight of the lead Erie locomotive 
passed onto the NH at Campbell Hall before midnight, and the Erie would 
pay the per diem when all the cars in an Erie train at Maybrook were 
declared by the New Haven as ready for movement (coupled up with power 
and caboose, if available, and air test complete) before midnight.  
There might have been even more detailed conditions that I'm not aware of.

Gordon Davids

Brian J Carlson wrote:
> And when a yardmaster needed an empty to say load a carload of widgets in
> Youngstown for Boston and all he had was that Westbound SP empty boxcar it
> was loaded and sent east, car service rules be damned.
>
> Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
> Cheektowaga NY
>
>
>   


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