RE: (erielack) Guard timber, rail, and rerailers

["Sam Weibel" <weeb_@_centurytel.net>]

I know when I used the Nay Aug tunnel as a shortcut to Grandmothers
house it did not have guardrails. This was in the 60's after the flood.
The one side didn't have tracks either.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Donald Barnickel [mailto:JDBAR_@_worldnet.att.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:07 AM
To: EL Mail List
Subject: Re: (erielack) Guard timber, rail, and rerailers

Frank,

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but as I recall from walking both the Cut-Off
and
Old Main, Roseville and Manunka Chunk tunnels did not use guard rails.
Manunka Chunk still has tracks in both bores, so it would still be
possible
to confirm it if one wanted to venture in past the collapsed lining on
the
west side or the overgrowth on the east side.  The pictures in the
Lowenthal
and Greenberg book show no guard rails at either Manunka Chunk or
Oxford.
Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the DL&W in Pennsylvania can
comment
on the Nay Aug and Factoryville tunnels.

Don Barnickel

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank P Adams" <frank.p.adams_@_verizonbusiness.com>
To: "'EL Mail List'" <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:01 PM
Subject: (erielack) Guard timber, rail, and rerailers


> First Happy Easter to the list.
>
> The May issue of Railroad Model Craftsman has a multiple page article
about
> guard timbers, rails and rerailers on open deck bridges and tunnels.
There
> are six tables of information from the early to late 1900s listing the
> various practices of many railroads across the country.  The Erie is
> mentioned once for 1916 using 8" x 5" guard timbers on open deck
bridges,
> and then the EL for tunnel guard rails where operating speeds exceeded
> 25mpm.  That table says the DL&W prior to the EL merger did not use
guard
> rails in tunnels.  Also the DL&W is not listed in any of the tables
for
> guard timbers/rails on bridges.
>
> My question is did the DL&W not use these or is it an oversight in the
> article? The article did say that 38% of the class 1 railroads felt
the
> guard timbers/rails were effective but questioned their value.
>
> Thanks
> Frank
> Colorado Springs, CO
> ELHS #2116
> ELH&TS #52
>
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