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Re: (rshsdepot) Re:SIRT
rshsdepot
Thank you, Steven.
Now, Jerome, do you understand the difference between telling people on this
list to "read between the lines" and that you got the information from "a book
on the SIRT" and what Mr. Delibert has given us. This is called documentation.
It prevents hearsay, fables, fairy tales, bubbemissehs, and other various and
assorted stretchings of the truth, which nobody is accusing you of, simply
stating that there is a difference between specious claims and documented,
verifiable information. (My LAST input on this topic, folks).
Steven Delibert wrote:
> rshsdepot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Seth Bramson > > Don't have a year the DLW and CNJ terminals were
> built but
> > > guess in the 20's.
> > >
> >
> > the 20's. I'm sure Mr. Delibert or one of the other good folks on the
> list have
> > a closer date, but I "do" the Stella Show every June at Liberty State Park
> and
> > for some reason "1907" seems closer to the opening date of Communipaw,
> although,
> > indeed, there was a CNJ terminal in Jersey City, and probably at or very
> close
> > to that site since AT LEAST 1879, and, likely for some years before that.
>
> Such a mayven I'm not, but who can resist a research question? That CNJ
> terminal is the centerpiece of a major state park, so it's easy to find a
> site
> http://www.libertystatepark.com/crrnj.htm
> that tells us the first CNJ terminal here was a plain wood structure in
> 1864; the present building was "designed" in 1889, presumably built at about
> the same time, and additions kept going on up to the early 1900's.
>
> "In 1864, the CRRNJ bought extensive acreage at Communipaw Avenue in Jersey
> City and opened its first terminal, a plain wooded structure in that same
> year. Before building, the underwater area was landfilled with ballast from
> ocean going vessels and fill from New York City. Finally, passengers and
> freight could be loaded and unloaded directly from the shores of the Hudson
> River. This waterfront terminal, with Civil war imminent, also provided
> strategically important for troop and equipment transport.
>
> "By the mid 1880's a larger terminal was necessary, and in 1889 it was
> designed by the prestigious Boston firm of Peabody and Stearns to
> accommodate greater demands on land and water. The three-story head house
> joined a train shed covering twelve tracks and six platforms. This immense
> complex - waterfront freight terminal, passenger station, storage yards,
> engine house, three power stations, service and repair facilities,
> ferryboats and sheds, float bridges, barges, and thawing sheds --
> represented the greatest concentration of rail facilities in the New York
> Harbor area at the turn of the century."
>
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