Re: (erielack) Portage Bridge near Hornell

["Bill K." <pontiac_@_dreamscape.com>]

Most of the time it's referred to as the Portageville viaduct.  Lots of 
pictures of it in books and online.


This is just a dumb question, but one has to wonder how much cheaper it 
would be to simply close the line and reroute the existing through traffic, 
while replacing the bridge itself with some kind of modular structure from 
pre-built components assembled elsewhere and installed on the site in the 
same location as the current structure.

I can think of at least a dozen ways to run trains around that location, 
from reasonable to rediculous, but down the PRR Buffalo Line to Olean and 
east on the WNY&P probably makes the most sense.

When it was still Conrail and D&H down there, Conrail would just send their 
trains right to Albany on the Chicago Line if there was a problem of some 
sort, a wreck or major trackwork.


Bill K.




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>
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:20:30 -0400
> From: "Brian J Carlson" <brian_@_net.bluemoon.net>
> Subject: Re: Re:RE: (erielack) Portage Bridge near Hornell
>
> Live railroad, yes. It's the Southern tier line of NS now former CR , EL,
> Erie. The bridge is slated to be replaced. I don't have the timetable 
> handy.
> It's been in poor shape for many years, more than 10, now.
>
> Brian J Carlson P.E.
> Cheektowaga NY
> - ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janet & Randy Brown" <jananran_@_mymailstation.com>
> To: <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:18 PM
> Subject: Re:RE: (erielack) Portage Bridge near Hornell
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>
>> The Portage Bridge, as I see it, is (compass) north, (timetable) west of
> River Jct, where the low-grade River Line takes off for Coba Jct.  The
> Portage bridge is, therefore, on the old Erie line to Buffalo.  Is that
> still a live railroad?  If so, why?
>>
>> Randy Brown
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> Thanks for clarifying which bridge that is, Steve and Andy. I did find
> several images on http://images.google.com using keywords
> Letchworth+Erie+Bridge. It looks like a classy bridge in a beautiful
> location near waterfalls. Let's hope that when and however they rebuild 
> it,
> they keep the setting in mind and not slap just anything in there.
>>
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> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:09:48 -0400
> From: "Rich Behrendt" <rbehrendt_@_columbus.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: (erielack) Portage Bridge near Hornell (2)
>
> The Portage Bridge has slowly been deteriorating ever since the EL used 
> it,
> and although some remedial repairs have been done since then under CR and
> NS, the bridge structure and substructure continue to deteriorate, and at
> some point minor repairs and band-aids won't help...
>
> There has been a 10mph speed restriction for as long as I can recall, and 
> my
> understanding is that NS is working on plans for a new span  The last that 
> I
> heard they were working through the environmental issues, but the price 
> tag
> will be substantial for not just building a new span, but for acquiring 
> ROW
> as well, plus add in the fact that the span is within Letchworth State
> park...
>
> Rich Behrendt
> ELHS #384
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> - ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don" <donaldliotta_@_gmail.com>
> To: "'EL Mail List'" <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:39 AM
> Subject: (erielack) Portage Bridge near Hornell
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>
>>I was just reading the August Railpace and there's a blurb in the middle 
>>of
>> page 47 claiming that a bridge on the north of Hornell on the old Erie
>> line
>> to Buffalo, referred to as the Portage Bridge, is in bad shape and the
>> viability of the NS line from Binghamton to Buffalo is in jeopardy.
>>
>> Does anyone else know the story behind this? I doubt the line is in
>> "jeopardy". I would think the state of New York and NS would work 
>> together
>> to get it fixed; the state is the main reason the line survives to this
>> day.
>>
>> Does anyone have a picture and/or stats on this Portage Bridge?
>>
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