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(erielack) HO K-5 HO Erie #2922 from Jersec City in 1929
- Subject: (erielack) HO K-5 HO Erie #2922 from Jersec City in 1929
- From: Hhaines_@_aol.com
- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:10:39 EST
In a message dated 2/22/2007 4:47:17 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
Hhaines_@_aol.com writes:
I have no listings of images of #2922 in any of my books.
I hate it when I am not feeling well and make statements like that.
My fever was worse than I thought. I have several images of Erie 2922 in
books listed below--and many on this list may also. While looking this up, I
discovered that K-5s also double headed with K-4As, Berkshires (S-3s, 2-8-4s),
Mikados (N-2s), Santa Fes (R-2s, 2-10-2s) and possibly others. The ERIE USRA
HEAVY PACIFICS book by D. Biernacki available through the Erie Lackawanna
Historical Society is an excellent source of information how the locomotive
evolved over time, but not the only source for images.
A few general things about Erie 2922:
It was built by Baldwin in June 1919, Builder’s Number 51931, as part of a
USRA order of 20 USRA Heavy Pacifics. (page 92, Railroad History No 131,
Autumn 1974.) Erie 2922 was scrapped at Luria Bros. of Bufaflao NY, 24 April 1950.
As-delivered dimensions are given on page 2, modifications by 1939 on page
20, Biernacki.
There were three 3-inch Consolidated safety valves on the unit when new that
were replaced in 1931 with two 3.5-inch), p4, 13 Biernacki)
The Cole-Scoville built up trailing truck was used throughout its service
The cab roof had gutters (in addition to gutters over the cab windows) that
were eliminated between 1941 and 1942.
High speed URSA tender trucks were replaced with Commonwealth drop equalizer
type some time late 1931.
Erie 2922 mostly worked west of Hornell after Automatic Train Stop (ATS) was
applied to many other K-5 and K-5As in 1926. Apparently, 2922 received ATS
by early 1942 or possibly earlier as its original tender was replaced for a
16,500 gallon tender in early 1940.
Also around the late 1920s, the original tenders had their coal capacity
increased from 10- to 20-tons.
The original cross-compound air compressor was replaced with an New York No.
5 air compressor (that itself was replaced by Westinghouse cross-compound
compressor in 1936.
By June 1931, 2922 received
- -Received an Elesco feed water heater, with exhaust steam pipe penetrating
smokebox from the top of cylinders, condensate return pipe running diagonally
around right side of smokebox.
- -The free-swinging bell was rigidly mounted with an internal air ringer. The
brass bell appears to have been replaced for a painted version during WW II.
- -Smoke deflectors were applied on top rear of cab
The steam turrets/ valves were enclosed/ shrouded with sheet metal, and
later (1941-ish) a larger box (that was higher than the cab roof) was added.
Sand box traps replaced with air actuated traps
The Raggonet reverse gear was changed to Precision gear
Photos of Erie 2922 include
Erie 2922, ¾ front engineer’s side with mail train, Akron Ohio, 1936. Page
47, ERIE STEAM LOCOMOTIVES AND TRAINS: Photographed in Northern New Jersey,
1933-1937, Robert K. Durham. 1995. ELHS
Erie 2922 is shown as a ¾ overhead view of fireman’s side with 12-car milk
train, bridge over the Delaware River at Mill Rift PM, May 1929 (w Elesco
heater). Page 115 top, THE ERIE RAILROAD STORY. Paul Carleton, Carleton
Railbooks, Dunellon, FL. 1988 (or page 214, THE ERIE LACKAWANA STORY, Paul Carleton,
1974.)
Erie 2922 on Train No.5, Meadville PS on 25 Aug 1936, Fireman’s side ¾ front
shows Pyle headlight without visor, smaller smokebox door, Elesco feedwater
heater with piping as below, shrouded safety valves, pneumatically activated
internal bell ringer, generator is still on engineer’s side, front of cab,
Westinghouse cross-compound air pumps on fireman’s side, blow-off valves have
been piped back to under the cab, and stoker exhaust behind trailing truck
below fireman’s side of cab. Locomotive has retained original USRA-style pilot
steps, but short running board is not yet raised for mechanical lubricator
even though drifting valves have been added to top of cylinders.
tender has sides raised (to 20-tons coal), Commonwealth drop-equalizer type
4-wheel trucks and strap steel for front tender step. Centered Erie diamond
with serif script.
Cab still has gull gutters, but smoke deflectors added
Page 14, top, ERIE USRA HEAVY PACIFICS. D. Biernacki, 1992. Erie Lackawanna
Historical Society, Columbia, NJ.
Erie 2922 on 1st section of train No. 2, Lanesboro PA, Labor Day, 1 sep
1941 (1 RPA, 9 “2200” coaches. View is ¾ front fireman’s side, shows cab still
with gutters, but now with raised short running board and 2-sets of box-pok
drivers (main and rear), stoker exhaust now routed to top of boiler in a
muffler, fireman’s side still shows cab-window/door access to running board, and
USRA pilot steps are replaced. Larger 16,500-gallon 6-wheel t2-truck tender
with ERIE in sans serif centered on coal bunker (that it received in early
1940). Page 30, top, Biernacki, 1992.
Erie 2922, on 5-car “Snow Train” (2 Stillwells and an 1100 in view) on
Newburgh Branch at Salisbury Mills NY from Jersey City, 1 Feb 1942. ¾ front view
of engineers side after Pearl Harbor Day shows cab gutters removed, cab front
sealed, generator no longer on engineer’s side, steam whistle is tilted,
nice clean (shiny) boiler jacket with continuous handrail-conduit (at least on
the engineer’s side), ATS applied (may have been earlier), shrouded valve
cover is taller than the cab roof, air lines are stacked under the running board,
all drivers are box-box, and bell has changed to a painted steel.
Page 30, bottom
Erie 2922 did not retain the 16,500-gallon tender for long (just a couple of
years) before the 10,000-gallon 20-ton tender was returned (for use in
commuter and branch line service, p42, Biernacki).
There probably would have been more shots had it gone to NJ commuter service
a bit earlier in life. Erie’s purchase of the passenger EMD F-3s in 1947
bumped the K-5s into other duties including milk trains, other long-distance
passenger trains, express freight, and commuter service. Some K-5s and K-5As
served as back-up locomotives for the Eire Limited and Lake Cities on the west
end until the arrival of the EMD E-8s in 1951. Erie 2922 did not last that
long, finally meeting the torch in August 1950. Erie 2922 was not rebuilt in
the 1940-42 rebuild program as sister 2923 had been (only one of 3 K-5s in that
program, and also an Eastern-end loco having received ATS in 1926).
Erie 2921, at Meadville in 1927. Page 9, Biernacki.
And there was more detail for the train, Think about it (the list from Erie
Trackside with Robert Collins)--
The K5 would be pulling:
Two Athearn-bashed "monitor" roof 70-foot heavyweight baggage express cars
representing Class C-17 by Pullman (#569-573, 1928) with doors seven feet and
six feet directly across or Class C-18 from the Standard Steel Car Company
(#574-597, also 1928) with similar sized doors diagonally across.
or two ELHS C-9 wood with steel underframe express cars) Either way, both in
Eire green.
One heavyweight AHM/Rivarossi Erie green RPO representing class G-12 by
Pullman in Chicago, December 1928 (#600-603), page 8, DeYoung and DelVecchio
2001. (one-sides’ dimensions are off by a few inches, but length and door space
from the other (mail) end was OK. Trucks may need to be changed.)
Two Branchline 2200s for coaches (the "NYC" coach) (or add air conditioning
and no ventilator beaks for the 1934-to-1948 versions) in Erie green
One “chair car” from splicing two Athearn monitor-roof coaches to make a
2206-2211 (pre-1100) chair car from the Jay Held school of kit-bash,
One Walthers heavyweight diner (either undecorated and lettered for Erie or
Santa Fe with changed name and re-numbered to 939-947 for the
Pullman-constructed 1925 cars, as viewed in “Route of the Erie Limited,” books by Carleton,
and others (page 11, DeYoung and DelVecchio 2001).
A single (or sometimes two) select heavy-weight Pullman (depending on year,
12-1-1, 8-1-2, or others), that would be in Pullman or Erie green, and finally
An ELHS long-distance Stillwell, in Erie green
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