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Re: (erielack) Train starter?
- Subject: Re: (erielack) Train starter?
- From: Dlw1el2_@_aol.com
- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:02:14 EDT
In a message dated 10/22/2005 2:16:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
g.davids_@_verizon.net writes:
The train starter was the gateman at Hoboken Terminal, not the conductor.
When a train was due to leave, unless it was to be held for passengers from a
late ferry or H&M train (not uncommon) the gateman would close the gate to
the platform and signal to the conductor that it was OK to leave. As best as
I can remember, the signal was simply closing the gate. The conductor was to
see that no one was running or trying to climb on a departing train.
The conductor was in charge of the train, and I don't know were the
cartoonist got the idea that the "train starter" opened the car doors. That was
normally the function of the train crew (conductor and trainmen).
The equipment in that cartoon, conveys everything. Its almost pre turn of
the century, and anyone with any knowledge of the Lackawanna's commuter lines
knows the tremendous amount of rebuilding that took place after that cartoon
era. Maybe those cartoons were a little inspiration to the RR to do the
massive rebuilding that they did do?
As far as departing Hoboken: When the GATEMAN closed the gate the FLAGMAN at
the rear of the train then looked forward to see that the last person walking
forward along the train had gotten on. Then he and the CONDUCTOR who would
be at the head end of the train exchanged a highball, the FLAGMAN would then
give two on the whistle cord. The FLAGMAN was always the guy that pulled
two on the whistle cord at every station after getting a highball from the
conductor at the other end of the train. Conductors always worked the head end of
a passenger train.
Bob Bahrs
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