Chuck, Occassionally cars were delivered to Blairstown. The Power & Light Company (or whatever that outfit is that uses hydro-electric power on that hillsideout there) got some cars in the 60's and up to about 1971 or so. It was a public track so anyone could have used it. Only problem is if an empty was to go east, either a westbound train would have to pick it up and set it out at Portland or Stoudsburg or if an eastbound got it, the train would have to shove it to Greendell to run around the car or shove the car to Port Morris. The same would apply at Johnsonburg if the creamery switch on the south side of the house track were still in on the north side. All of this would take a lot of time and delay other trains waiting for the single track to clear up. Rich Charles_Walsh_@_berlex.com wrote: Rich, Thank you. Very interesting. I take it that the presence of the passing siding on the north side side of the main at Greendell, with the freight siding (where Jerry's car was set out) on the south side of the main, made it feasible to deliver cars there. Given this, could any of the trains have been able to deliver a car at Johnsonburg (assuming the siding was still intact), or was Greendell the only realistic place, from an operational perspective, that the car could be delivered on the Cut-Off? Second point - wasn't there a passing siding just east of Slateford on the Cut-Off? If so, what role did that play on the single-track railroad between Bell's Bridge and Lincoln Park? (I might be confused about that.) Chuck Richard Pennisi oo.com> To: Charles_Walsh_@_Berlex.com Sent by: cc: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net erielack-owner_@_list erielack-owner@lists.elhts.org s.elhts.org "Tupaczewski, Paul R \(Paul\)" Subject: RE: (erielack) Boonton Line freight trains-analysis 10/03/2005 03:34 PM Please respond to Richard Pennisi Chuck, No, the Dover Drill never went to Greendell. It was not advertised to do any work on the cut-off. SC8/PN98 or CS9 did any local work at Greendell. That is why there was a fight with EL and Conrail management to get cars placed at Jerry's. Eastbound it was an easy setout. Westbound CS9 had to runaround the car(s) to add it to their train. The only other option was to have an Eastbound pick up the car and take it back to Port Morris to be switched back out again. The Dover Drill was advertised to Morrisotwn (only if necessary which I don't beleive ever happened) Denville (so it could get cars off CS-9 when it did set out at Denville) East Dover to Port Morris. When the Sussex Branch was still up and running, it went to Branchville two days a week. After the branch as torn up, the Dover drill just local work at Netcong ie the lumber company and the outfit down in the hole opposite the freight house. Rich Charles_Walsh_@_Berlex.com wrote: Dear Rich, I presume that the Dover Drill took care of business west of Dover? Obscure question (which I may have asked in the past): what train took care of shipments to Greendell? In speaking to Jerry Crues (owner of the Johnsonburg General Store) years ago, he told me that he tried to get shipments into Johnsonburg, but that Conrail (maybe EL before also?) refused. As a result, he would receive an occasional shipment, usually farm supplies I believe, but don't quote me, and these would be set off on the siding at Greendell. I'm curious, would the Dover Drill have taken care of Greendell? Chuck Richard Pennisi oo.com> To: "Tupaczewski, Paul R \(Paul\)" Sent by: cc: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net erielack-owner_@_list Subject: s.elhts.org RE: (erielack) Boonton Line freight trains-analysis 10/03/2005 01:35 PM Please respond to Richard Pennisi Paul, & list Here goes; About 0730 the Totowa Roustabout would leave CX, worked from Little Falls to the spur, usually back to CX about 1830. Sometimes it was necessary to relieve the crew as there was just too much work (about 21 customers on the spur alone) This job also did Mueller Brass in Little Falls and Drakes Cakes in Mt. View. There was swapping of Little Falls and Mt. View work between the Roustabout and Greenwood Lake haul. It depended on how the jobs were bulletined at what time frame and who was the trainmaster for the area. About 0800 the Greenwood Lake Haul/Silver Lake. If my memory is correct these jobs were combined near the end of the EL. Did work on Orange Branch (what was left) along the main to Little Falls and Mt. View as necessary. When the Caldwell Branch was open this job went up there as necesaary and that really wasn't much before the washouts that took the branch out of service. About 0900 the Horn Train,(?) the Newark Branch job went out to Seaboard, Newark and was advertised to Nutley but rarely made it that far. They were usually back in to CX early about 1500 or earlier. The 1st Boonton Drill went on duty in Dover about 1100 hrs. went to Boonton and back to Dover by 1800 hours usually. The 2nd Boonton Drill went on duty at 0200 hours in Dover and went to Boonton and was uasually back to Dover by between 0930 and 1100 hours. Both Boonton Drills were advertised to Croxton to take water loads (sludge) from Drew and dump it in Penn Horn Creek in Croxton (if the EPA only knew) and bring back the empties to Drew. Although advertised as such, trips to Croxton were rare. This usually only occurred when CS-9 SC-8 (or PN-98 depending on the year) were running late and cars were getting out of cycle for Drew. I'm sure someone will dispute what I sent here, but you are talking about almost 30 years ago.... Rich "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)" wrote: So here's the question of the week - what trains ran over the Boonton Line in those years (including locals), and what times (approximately) did they depart/arrive CX? :) - - Paul - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pennisi [mailto:eldispatcher72_@_yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:55 PM To: Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul); EL Mailing List Subject: RE: (erielack) Boonton Line freight trains-analysis Paul, A/CX99 usually departed Croxton about 11 pm or later. NY99 usually about 1am or later and CX 99 around 3am. I don't remember anything running in daylight with those symbols unless there was a derailment in Croxton yard that would prevent on time departures. Rich "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)" wrote: Rich, >A/CX99, NY99, and CX99 all ran via Scranton. I was working midnights on the East End Dispatcher #44 job between 1974 and 1976. Do you ever remember seeing the NY-99 in daylight? Or was it strictly a nocturnal train? - - PAul The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org The Erie Lackawanna Mailing List Sponsored by the ELH&TS http://www.elhts.org - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. 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