RE: (erielack) If you thought NJT restrictions on photography are tough, watc...

[Charles_Walsh_@_Berlex.com]

Dear Mike,

You're correct if you see that the camera is hidden.  I think what Bill is
saying is that you try not to be obvious about it.  In most cases, nobody's
watching.  But either way, no crime has been committed...and that's what
needs to be remembered.

Chuck



                                                                                                                                          
                      "Michael Steinberg"                                                                                                 
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Woah! Careful with some of that advise! As a railroader, I can tell you
that
if I see someone concealing a camera, and then they whip it out quickly to
take a photo, I'm on the phone with the dispatcher immediately. I'm less
likely to be concerned if someone is being an "obvious" railfan, camera(s)
around their necks, waiting for the perfect shot (or taking a photo of the
headlights from 1/2 mile away)

Acting suspicious is not the way to not look suspicious!

Mike Steinberg
BNSF, St. Louis, MO

> -----Original Message-----
> From: erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org
> [mailto:erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org] On Behalf Of TrainGG1@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 5:35 PM
> To: STEVEZ10_@_aol.com; paultup@lucent.com; erielack@lists.railfan.net
> Subject: Re: (erielack) If you thought NJT restrictions on
> photography are tough, watc...
>
> The increased security around rail facilities has scared some
> of the fans off -- but NOT me. ("I am NOT afraid!") This has
> required more vigilance in taking pictures. Do not park you
> auto in such a place where "that car" can be associated with
> "that photographer." Also, bring along a change of clothing
> (shirts, hats) and do not make it obvious you are taking
> pictures until you actually take one. (My camera is easily
> hidden under my shirt or in my pocket.) It is also a good
> idea not to just "hang out" at any given location for
> prolonged periods of time...keep moving around.
>
> Railfanning is NOT a crime and we must not cow-tow to the
> fears of being "caught" pursuing our hobby. Unfortunately the
> measures outlined above have become necessary to avoid being
> hassled by local authorities -- but it will eliminate most
> questions and allow the police to actual pursue someone who
> is actually doing something illegal (like robbing or raping)
> as opposed to clamping down on photographers.
>
> Bill Shapotkin
>
> _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/i_am_not_afraid/_
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/i_am_not_afraid/)
>
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