Re: (erielack) re:Jersey City terminals

["Tom Beckett" <tabeckett_@_stny.rr.com>]

I do recall an abandoned station; I just couldn't remember if it was 18th or
28th St. It's probably been close to 20 years since I rode the PATH to 33rd
St.

TAB
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken" <lackawanna_@_iname.com>
To: "Tom Beckett" <tabeckett_@_stny.rr.com>; "Janet & Randy Brown"
<jananran_@_mymailstation.com>; <erielack@lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: (erielack) re:Jersey City terminals


> I also doubt that there was a Vesey St. Station.  It's not mentioned in
> 'Rails under the Mighty Hudson," and there's no break in the tube between
> Exc hange Place and WTC.  You will recall that there was a 28th St.
station
> originally, the platforms of which are still visible.  If there had been a
> Vesey St. station, I think that the platforms would still be around.
>
>
> Ken B.
>
> At 07:42 PM 1/6/02 -0800, Tom Beckett wrote:
> >The H&M stations on the 33rd St line are Christopher St, 9th, 14th, 23rd,
> >33rd. The line comes into Manhattan under Morton St, then turns north
under
> >Greenwich, then east on Christopher til it turns north under 6th Av,
which
> >it follows to the terminus at 33rd.
> >
> >Vesey St is down near the WTC, and would have been served by the Hudson
> >Terminal line, though I doubt there was ever a Vesey St station.
> >
> >TAB
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Janet & Randy Brown" <jananran_@_mymailstation.com>
> >To: <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
> >Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 5:00 AM
> >Subject: (erielack) re:Jersey City terminals
> >
> >
> > > Alan -- If you can find a good current map of Jersey City, it will
help.
> > From South to North:
> > >   CNJ [also used by RDG and B&O] -- now Liberty State Park
> > >   PRR
> > >   ERIE [also used by NYS&W]
> > > JC/Hoboken city line
> > >   DL&W
> > >
> > > Path served all but the CNJ.  Coming east from Newark, Path runs along
the
> >old PRR line to Journal Square and Exchange Place and on under the river
to
> >the WTC.  Used to go to Hudson Terminal, in Erie days -- a little further
> >inland from WTC -- and it may again.
> > >
> > > At Exchange Place, a line turns left, runs north to Hoboken, turns
riht
> >and ends under the north side platforms of the DL$W terminal. A station
at
> >Pavonia Avenue "served" the Erie terminal but, because Path is so far
> >inland, it was quite a hike from the Path to the Erie.
> > >
> > > Of course, it was the Hudson & Manhattan [H&M] "Tubes" then.
> > >
> > > Between Pavonia Avenue ["Erie"] and Hoboken, the 33rd Street line
turned
> >east, went under the river, and zig-zagged north more or less between 6th
> >and 7th Avenues to Herald Square, where it dead-ended under the
intersection
> >of 6th, Broadway and 33rd Street.  It had stops along the way at, like,
> >Vesey St, 19th St, 23rd St.
> > >
> > > There was service from Journal Square via Exchange Place to down town
or,
> >via Erie, to uptown or, via Erie, to Hoboken; from Hoboken to uptown or,
via
> >Erie and Exchange Place, to downtown.  Through runs from Newark went
> >downtown.  It was easy to get on the wrong train!
> > >
> > > And then, 'way up in Weehawken, there was the NYC's West Shore
terminal,
> >used also by NYO&W, with only ferry connection to Manhattan, unless you
used
> >a bus. :=(
> > >
> > > Randy Brown ELHS#16
> > >
> > > PS: Moodna Viaduct crossed Moodna Creek.  Why "Moodna?"  I dunno; ask
an
> >Indian.
> > >
>
>

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