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Re: (rshsdepot) Re: RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1333
Paul,
Just one small correction to Mr. Mitchell's response. "...which conveniently predates the line's acquisition by the NYS&W ca. 1984-85."
NYS&W never acquired the line from Conrail. They did gain the right to run "Haulage trains" and did so, even as Conrail continued to run its own trains over the line. Ownership of the line transferred to Norfolk Southern as part of the NS/CSX purchase of Conrail. Subsequently NS leased the portion from Suffern NY to Port Jervis, NY to Metro-North Commuter RR and the section from Port Jervis, NY to Binghamton, NY was leased to the NYS&W.
I believe to the end of Conrail, at least one daily Conrail train was still traversing the line. This train, OIBU (Oak Island - Buffalo) and its counterpart BUOI, were in effect long-distance locals. When NS took over the line they stopped running through trains to Binghamton. The line between Suffern and Port Jervis is still served by NS for freight service, based out of Campbell Hall, NY. NS now serves Campbell Hall with a long distance local out of Allentown, PA.
Probably more than you wanted to know.
Jim Dent
Oakland, NJ
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander D. Mitchell IV" <LNER4472_@_bcpl.net>
Date: Thursday, April 6, 2006 9:20 am
Subject: (rshsdepot) Re: RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1333
> > From: "Paul Luchter" <luckyshow_@_mindspring.com>
> > Subject: (rshsdepot) NYS&W train
> >
> > ..so what was the blue train the NYS&W engine was pulling on
> Starucca
> > viaduct.
> >
> *Do you seriously not recognize Conrail blue and the "can-opener"
> logo?
> The train in the original photo linked was Conrail's inspection
> train,
> cobbled together from the various business cars inherited by
> Conrail. The
> loco is 4022, former Erie Lackawanna, former Erie 833, now in the
> ownership
> of Bennett Levin, owner of the ex-PRR units Conrail later acquired
> from
> Amtrak (after HEP conversion) to power the business trains.
> 4022/833
> reportedly still retains its original Vapor steam generator, so
> it's not
> likely to get onto a train anytime soon. The D&H line under
> Starucca
> Viaduct was removed in 1981-82, so I'm going to call this photo as
> being
> between 1977 and 1981 (which was also the period when it was blue--
> the train
> was repainted Pullman green in 1982 or 1983), which conveniently
> predates
> the line's acquisition by the NYS&W ca. 1984-85.
>
> Alexander D. Mitchell IV
>
>
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