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Re: (rshsdepot) Railing vs. commuter depots



Richmond Hill is still there, the platforms can be seen from subway above,
the stairs from the road below...actually a very substantial station for
what seems now in the middle of  well not no where, but not where you'd
expect so many commuters would use..was this some transfer point I am
forgetting about?

Glendale station (no building there now) has one side a back entrance to
Lutheran Cemetery (and building there seems station like but I doubt it was)
That spot looks to me somehow like you could be in Iowa (maybe it is the
Brooklyn, Iowa station area I am thinking about-though I seem to remember
that one had a lot of yard activity so is totally different.)...but this
closed LIRR station near the cemetery..reminds me of the Midwest despite the
high level platform, interesting to think part of Queens looks like Iowa but
that's me I guess..by the way I think the reservoir near Ridgewood here
might have been the first on Long Island, I have no idea when the Fresh
Ponds became dirty or when they disappeared..

Paul


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Guthrie" <jguthrie_@_pipeline.com>
To: <rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Railing vs. commuter depots


> Paul mused:
>
> > > ...How does Tremont still get service, some stations on LIRR
> > > that served a few more than that were permanently closed..how many did
> take
> > > trains to/from Richmond Hill or Penny Bridge or Glendale near the end?
>
> Considering all the other stations on this line that were abandoned over
the
> years (149th, Mott Haven, Claremont etc) the least they could do was to
> leave Tremont. IIRC, the NYC did attempt to close it, but was rebuffed by
> the NY PUC.
>
> And Daniel added
>
> >        The reason that the LIRR stations were closed is that the LIRR
> > converted to high-level platforms only, and the closed stations had
> low-level
> > platforms.  It made no sense to spend large sums of money to build
> high-level
>
> Nonsense. Richmond Hill had (has -- I think it remains intact in case of
an
> Amtrak strike or whatever) a nice high level platform. BUT the Montauk
> Branch to LIC was always a destination in revcent years. Lots of people
> commuted to Ajax Terminal, Phelps Dodge and other large industries from
Long
> Island.  OTOH, no one commuted to NYC because the line-- in essence --
went
> nowhere at Long island City. It was something of a hike to the IRT, and
> Richmond Hill and Glendale/Fresh Pond had the Jamaica El and Myrtle El as
> alternates.
>
> In more recent years, the LIRR insisted on a high fare for this "Nowhere"
> trip -- so what might be $1.50 on the M train would be $7.00 on the LIRR
> (with the subway thrown in to Manhattan).
>
> Of course, when the LIRR first put in Zone fares, the idiots in charge
> didn;t bother filing tariffs for the Montauk, which led to some very
> interesting fare anomalies ( that was one more reason to fire Walter
> Schlager, war hero but transportation incompetent ).
>
> > justify stopping quite a few trains at a station if only four people a
day
> > board there.  I wonder if that latter statement is true.
>
> It may be that four board at Tremont to grand Central; the majority of
> riders are heading to Westchester, as I understand it.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
>
>
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