Re: (rshsdepot) Communipaw redux . . .

["Don Dorflinger" <donnielee46_@_hotmail.com>]

rshsdepot
Guess my reply on the Bush Sheds at Jersey City was premature...I should 
read all my mail first. Glad to hear the sheds are still there!
The Bush sheds' internal design has probably led to questions regarding 
their stability at Jersey City. In a unique design, rain water from the 
roofs drains down through the center columns, and, I believe, goes 
underground to dry wells. After the CNJ abandoned Jersey City (and 
"abandoned" is, indeed, the operative word! I visited the terminal and the 
Communipaw Engine Terminal in the summer of 1969, and it still looked like 
everyone was out to lunch and returning any minute! Tools lying where they 
were left, etc.) in 1967 when the Aldene Plan went into effect, no further 
maintenance was done on either the sheds, or their drainage systems. As a 
result, the columns became clogged and filled up with rainwater, which had 
no place to go. How much deterioration actually took place as a result of 
this, however, was a matter of conjecture in 1982.

Don


>From: Seth Bramson <sbramson_@_bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net
>To: "Paul S. Luchter" <luckyshow_@_mindspring.com>
>CC: RSHSDepot <rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net>
>Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Communipaw redux . . .
>Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:28:00 -0500
>
>rshsdepot
>Au contriare, my friend!
>The sheds are still in at Communipaw.  (I see them every year during the 
>Antique
>Show in June; I'm set up right in front of one of the bumper posts!)
>
>In re LV.  They not only had the freight terminal there, but they also had 
>the
>"Lehigh Valley Terminal" up in the Bronx.  I have a booklet on it.  The 
>Lehigh
>had some pretty extensive freight operations in and around N. Y. Harbor.  
>As far
>as the L. V. trains, I do believe they did go into Exchange Place prior to 
>the
>opening of the Penn.  If you remind me of the date of the opening of Penn 
>Sta, I
>can check my L. V. tt's and give you "the" answer, as I have them back to 
>(yes)
>pre-1900.
>
>Incidentally, all, there is a wonderful book, now long out of print, very 
>rare
>and sought after titled "The Hoboken Ferry," and I do not remember if it
>chronicles the CNJ ferry operation but it does, of course, concentrate on 
>the
>Hoboken services, actually going back PRE railroad!
>
>"Paul S. Luchter" wrote:
>
> > It was unfortunate they ripped out the Bush sheds at Communipaw....I 
>really
> > miss the ferry slips they removed on the waterfront...now there is an
> > historic station with no rational, no tracks or sheds in back, no ferry
> > slips in front...why would someone put that station there? many kids 
>should
> > ask the Science Museum's staff...
> >
> > Oh yeah, those ferry slips were built later, the ones that were there in
> > 67...Probably contemporaneous with the ferry slips along the North River 
>put
> > up between mid-1890's and 1910's, though a few in Manhattan were redone 
>in
> > 20's...The copper and rivets have that feel...The big signs that they 
>also
> > should have left, that had neat lights and all-those may be 1920's, 
>maybe
> > earlier..
> >
> > Here is a different question relating to this....probably a dumb one I
> > admit....The Lehigh Valley had a freight terminal just north of CNJ
> > terminal...Why did they not use it for passengers (I think I know that 
>they
> > went to Pennsy Staqtion at Exchange Place, am I right?)
> >
>

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