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Re: (erielack) Metro-North pours $370M into Port Jervis line



It was a different setup under EL with trains going through Goshen and
downtown Middletown. I wonder if ridership would be higher today if this
route was still being used
KS


On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Bruce <qc_@_comcast.net> wrote:

> Prior to getting pushpull equipment, the two trains from Port Jervis used
> the remaining air conditioned Stillwells available. I have no idea on
> ridership, but in 1971 there were not that many commuters boarding at Port
> Jervis compared to Murray Hill, Glen Rock [Main Line] and Bernardsville to
> which I can personally compare daily ticket sales and ridership. Many of
> the 1971 stations on the former Erie Main Line in Orange County no longer
> have service, so any accurate comparison 1970's to 21st Century ridership
> can not be made.
> Bruce Breeman
>
> On 9/15/2013 10:20 AM, Ed Montgomery wrote:
>
>> This brings up a question.  What was the "Port service" like during the EL
>> years?  Did more people ride the train back then?  In the age of Erie,
>> many
>> of those trains handled mail and express to support their operation.  I
>> wonder what ridership was like in the 50s?  These were almost long
>> distance
>> trains often using the A/C equipped Stillwells.
>>
>> Ed Montgomery
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Gary R. Kazin <gkazin_@_yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Metro-North pours $370M into Port Jervis line Repairs linked to prospects
>>> of more ridership.
>>>
>>> By Judy Rife
>>> Times Herald-Record
>>> Published: 2:00 AM - 09/15/13
>>>
>>> Metro-North Railroad, proved wrong time and again on ridership
>>> projections, has continued to pour money into the Port Jervis line on the
>>> theory that someday, the riders will come.This year alone, the railroad
>>> is
>>> spending $67 million to replace the line's circa-1940s signal system and
>>> $3
>>> million to repair its circa-1900s Otisville Tunnel — all to benefit a
>>> weekday average of 2,000 riders, a number that hasn't budged appreciably
>>> in
>>> a decade.
>>> And before the year is over, Metro-North will spell out its plans to
>>> build
>>> a second train yard somewhere east of Salisbury Mills, add a second track
>>> between Salisbury Mills and Sloatsburg and preserve a potential
>>> right-of-way for an eventual spur to Stewart International Airport.
>>>
>>> Full article:
>>> http://www.recordonline.com/**apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/**
>>> 20130915/BIZ/309150320<http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130915/BIZ/309150320>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary R. Kazin
>>> DL&W RR Milepost R35.7
>>> Rockaway, New Jersey
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