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Re: (erielack) Re: Consist Sheets
Brad,
Yes, as Joe M. said, lots of typos. Many of the typos are probably
the result of an IBM punch card (anyone remember those?) that was
not read properly by the machine. You will see that most of the typos
are one letter off. In other words, the car type of "ES" that Joe found
was really an "ET", one letter off. Empty Tank.
If you are really interested, you have to double check some of the
cars against the Official Railway Equipment Register. I got one from
January, 1976, on eBay. When I find a questionable one, I look it
up in the "freight car phone book" as I like to call it. And you are
right, Dupont had both tank cars and covered hoppers.
The consist sheets provide interesting information. My advice is to
just take them at face value. They show you cars that we know
appeared on the railroad. They cannot show you what did not appear
on the railroad. And they are not a statistically significant sample.
Who's to say that the next train that day, which we have no record
of, wasn't all DT&I boxcars? Okay, unlikely, but hopefully you get
my point.
I use the consist sheets to guide my purchases of model railroad
rolling stock to the extent that road names that appear frequently
were probably fairly common in EL trains, such as PC, ATSF, UP,
NW, and BN. I wouldn't want to buy a dozen RF&P boxcars when
not a single one showed up in the consists (right, Paul?). I compared
what I had in my collection to what was common in the consist
sheets and discovered I needed more PC, NW, and UP cars and
not just BN, but predecessors like CBQ, GN, and NP. When
a manufacturer announces a new model available in 6 or 8 road
names, I go to the list and find out if any of them showed up in
EL trains. If one did, that's the one I buy.
Joe,
As for the consist sheet project, I said before I'm willing to pitch in
and do 5 or 10. But not 50. Heck, I've already got a big head start
with the Srn Tier database, which is 11,676 cars.
- -pat moore
- ----- Original Message ----
From: Joe Mayer <jmayer_@_insight.rr.com>
To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
Sent: Sat, October 13, 2012 8:20:38 AM
Subject: (erielack) Re: Consist Sheets
Brad,
As was said, these consist sheets are full of typos. Sometimes you have to read
between the lines. C, T, and G are covered hopper, tank car, and gondola,
usually preceded by E or L. You should see plenty of C's (sand from PGS at
Phalanx) and G's (steel and sand) in Youngstown. Make sure you have some ILDX
covered hoppers for the on-line lamp plants in Niles and Warren. (GE's
Incandescent Lamp Division)
In the consists that I have transcribed to Excel, I have one car (out of 815
lines) with a type of of type ES, GATX 10459 headed MT back to GATX in Sharon
PA, so you are probably correct on that.
I would be happy to share the spreadsheet I have with you- please contact me off
line.
Paul- I agree that it would be a massive undertaking to get these into Excel,
but if we could make a standard spreadsheet to start with (standard column
headers, and a few basic guidelines) and people could volunteer to do just those
trains that they are interested in, or areas that they know (geographically or
operationally), I think we could make a dent. With laptops and tablets, you can
do this sort of thing while you watch a ballgame on TV.
Joe Mayer
ELHS 702
> From: Bradley Butcher <llyengalyn_@_hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: (erielack) DT&I on mahoning div
>
> ok more questions. The car type key for reading this. Example LB stands for
>loaded Boxcar. I've come across a dupont car listed as LC and I cannot decide if
>that is loaded centerflow hopper or loaded tank car. Either is possible >for
>dupont.
>
> The key I got from the website lists:
>
> K = Hy cube box
> D= Other autoparts box
> TA= loaded tri level,
> BA= loaded Bi level
> (Note here: on the PB 100 i've started on autoracks are just listed as LA
>for loaded autorack not specifying which kind)
> SA=loaded stack pack
> LA= loaded multilevel unspecified
> EA= Empty multilevel
> ES= Empty Stack pack
> FB= Forwarder box
> R= mechanical Reefer
> TF= TOFC
> UF= COFC
> CF= container on chassis
> LF= Flat with Empty trailers (another note: all the tofc/cofc is listed as
>LF loaded flat with trailers or containers on it listed separately)
> EF=Empty intermodal flat
> PB= Piggyback general
> Need:
> C=?
> S=? (tank car I think, UTLX listed as hazardous) perhaps sealed/lined tank
> T=? another possible standard tank car. PPGX a paint products supplier.
> G=?
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