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Re: (erielack) Re: REA Traffic
Hello Friends of Phoebe and Smiley:
Did these trains operate on the Main Line through Paterson?
Thanks,
Len
- --- On Mon, 12/27/10, intercityrailpal_@_netscape.net <intercityrailpal@netscape.net> wrote:
From: intercityrailpal_@_netscape.net <intercityrailpal@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: (erielack) Re: REA Traffic
To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 9:39 PM
7&8 or 3&4 not carrying passengers was a major blow to EL passenger service. One of many. Since it unbalanced the timetable times. Some towns ended up
with bad arrival times. People avoid traveling during the witching hours of 12M to 6AM. That's why today, major cities like Cinncinnati and Cleveland have middle of the night arrival hours to try and control demand for service. They know what their doing. Lackawanna Lance
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From: Gordon Davids <g.davids_@_verizon.net>
To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net; Smtimko@aol.com; doctorpb@bellsouth.net
Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 6:55 am
Subject: (erielack) Re: REA Traffic
Trains 3 and 4 were still in the schedule in Erie Lackawanna Railroad Company Time Table 7 of October 29, 1967. No. 4 arrived Hoboken 10,35 P.M., and No. 3 departed Hoboken 1.15 A.M., via Port Jervis. They did not carry passengers, so they were not listed in the Official Guide.
My copy of New York and Scranton Divisions TT No. 7 was used by my predecessor at Hoboken, John Nobilksi. He kept it current with notes from the General Orders, so it looks like 3 and 4 ran during the life of TT No. 7. My Erie Lackawanna Railway Company Time Table No. 1 of April 28, 1968 includes General Order N-1-36 of October 27, 1968 that replaces all of the schedule pages on the New York Division, so I don't have the original schedule pages of No. 1. Nos. 3 and 4 are not listed in the General Order schedule pages, so it appears that they were discontinued either with the issuance of TT No. 1, or sometime before the General Order was issued.
I transferred from the D&H to EL in late November, 1968, and 3 and 4 were gone by then.
Gordon Davids
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In a message dated 12/23/2010 5:56:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net writes:
The closest estimate I can come up with
is with my 7/67 OG, from which nos. 3&4 are absent. I suppose that doesn't
necessarily mean it wasn't running then, as it was strictly M&E.
.............
Train #7 and #8 generally had one of these PB flats as the head car daily.
Train #7& #8 were changed to #3 and #4, Mail and express only (with rider
coach) effective 7/6/65. I don't know what date #3 and #4 last operated.
SMT
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