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Re: (erielack) Alco Farewell / Economy Changes



Rick,

I believe that was the Royal Blue the B&O ran.  The Banner Blue was a Wabash 
train if I remember correctly. 

Rich P




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From: "RJFlei_@_aol.com" <RJFlei@aol.com>
To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
Sent: Mon, December 13, 2010 12:09:51 PM
Subject: Re: (erielack) Alco Farewell / Economy Changes


Lance,

I think the CNJ was at one time under B&O control. The  B&O used the CNJ to 
reach Jersey City and ran "The Banner Blue" on the CNJ,  if I remember 
correctly.

Rick Fleischer


In a message dated 12/13/2010 1:36:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
intercityrailpal_@_netscape.net writes:



As a former RF&P shareholder. It was somewhat  like Conrail.  That CSX 
took the RAIL assets it wanted. Most of the  stock was owned by a Virginia 
retirement investment firm. So the transaction  was done on their terms. The 
company continued just like Reading International  and Katy Industries today.  
Stock ticker codes RDI and KATY  today.  I didnt' follow what happened to 
RF&P, M&STL or CNJ.  Perhaps  taken over or merged up with a non rail 
company. The EL is not.  It was  gone completely in 1992. I welcome more 
information, like what happened to the  L&HR and CNJ corporation. I know what 
happened 

to the rail assets.  Lackawanna Lance




- -----Original Message-----
From:  Montgomery, Edward T <ETMontgomery_@_fcps.edu>
To: 'EL Mail List'  <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 13, 2010 11:43  am
Subject: RE: (erielack) Alco Farewell / Economy Changes


Well,  
A lot of EL ROW might still be around but if EL had upgraded, I'm sure  
either NS 
r CSX would have their hands all over the property.  EL  shareholders would 
have 
een offered a deal they could not refuse - sort of  like what CSX did to 
acquire 
ichmond, Fredricksburg 7 Potomac.
Ed  Montgomery

- -----Original Message-----
rom: Tupaczewski, Paul R  (Paul) 
[mailto:paul.tupaczewski_@_alcatel-lucent.com] 
ent: Monday, December  13, 2010 11:36 AM
o: EL Mail List
ubject: RE: (erielack) Alco Farewell /  Economy Changes
> I think you made some good points. The good news in  
Youngstown  is that the air is 25% cleaner. The bad news is 
that  there are no jobs and the  jobs that are left pay just a 
little more  than minimum wage. I guess this is the "New 
Economy" or the "New Normal".  

Rick Fleischer
Cortland, OH. 

nd since we're an  economy driven now by foreign imports, today's railroads 
are 
rimarily  transporting... containers... of goods from China across the US. 
Local  
usiness? What's that?
Going back to the EL, in theory the EL could have  survived as a primarily 
ntermodal long-hauler. It was already heading in  that direction before CR. 
Not 
o beat the proverbial dead horse, but had  there been the proper "planetary 
lignment of economic factors," there  could still be a vibrant EL today. 
learances for double-stacks? Not a  problem, considering how the other "big 
oads" today spend government  dollars to improve their lines.
Ah well, such it is to dream....
- - Paul
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