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RE: (erielack) Container on EL COFC

Paul B. wrote:

> Chassis carried the "Z" suffix as with trailers, eg PXCZ. 
> When reviewing the train consists, keep in mind that it's the 
> container that's listed, even when moving as COC. To 
> determine if it's with chassis or "on the belly", look at the 
> reporting mark of the flatcar. TTX is a trailer-only car, so 
> it is COC. TTAX is all-purpose, so it could be COFC or COC.

Just an observation: It was far more common to see COC on EL trains rather than COFC (at least based on photos). The only regularly seen COFC were the Seatrain containers that would often appear at the head of NY-98.

Here's another container line that you can make out in the January ELHS/ELDCPS calendar photo: PCL (Pacific Container Line?) - yet another COC.




 
> SeaTrain was incorporated in 1928 and began carrying railcars 
> between Hoboken and Havanna the following year. This service 
> was discontinued around
> 1961 with the rise of the Castro regime,

For the record, Seatrain was serviced by the Hoboken Manufacturer's Railroad in Hoboken (not the DL&W). Seatrain lasted in Hoboken only for a few years before moving to much more expansive facilities in Edgewater on the NYS&W.

Additionally, Seatrain also had ports in Puerto Rico and Texas that received railcars (Puerto Rico had some dockside trackage, where the cars were destined)


> and by the mid-60's 
> the company had developed a container service to Puerto Rico 
> and several continental US ports including Savannah, GA and 
> Texas City TX, as well as a tanker division. IIRC it began 
> Minibridge service between Oakland and Houston in 1970 and by 
> the time it began its Landbridge service in 1972, it was 
> using a facility called Port SeaTrain in Weehawken.

To bring this all back to EL, Port Seatrain (which incidentally was the destination of those Seatrain containers on NY-98, to be loaded onto a Seatrain ship to move down to Puerto Rico) was built right on top of the original Erie Weehawken piers - those are the ones you would see in the Erie's waterfront publicity photos.

	- Paul

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