(erielack) Mahoning Division Yards

[rjflei_@_aol.com]

My thought here was to have Leavittsburg be the west end of my  layout. I 
thought it would be a nice Scene for the Highway bridge over the 1st  and 2nd 
divisions just beyond SN junction would be idea for the entrance for the  
west end stageing. The 2nd division locals would just be like transfer runs 
in  from the stageing area  then.
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A very interesting concept. How long would you make the Second District? Or 
 would it be staging, too?





Odd, on the various maps I have  dug up it seems to indicate that the 
Little Republic yard and Trumball Cliffs  furnaces were on the PRR line south of 
Warren & the B&O/EL. I had also  seen the name "Pipe Line 1 & 2" listed and 
wondered at what that term  meant.
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The EL ran on the B&O track down to the mill. The PRR paralleled this  
track from near Ohio Corrugating (on the PRR)  along side the mill. The  mill 
had their own railroad that worked inside the mill along with the B&O.  The 
blast furnace is on the other side if the Mahoning River. I do know that the  
EL had hot metal runs into the mill from the Hazelton furnaces in 
Youngstown. I  don't know if there was any hot metal coming out of the Warren furnace. 
There  might have been as Valley Mould in Hubbard and Shenango Inc. in 
Sharpsville, Pa.  got hot metal from Hazelton and possibly Warren, too. As a 
side note - the  Warren blast furnace was once the largest in the world. I 
think the PRR (PC or  CR) may have contracted their switching out to the B&O.  




This is unfortunate, from a modelling perspective. I was ok  with the idea 
of a double track main (conventional wisdom holds that model  layouts look 
bigger if they are single track) but to have that 3rd Siding track  follow 
the main down an additional isle all the way to Girard seems unpleasent.  
Would it Really ruin it if I made those empties run out on the main to Mosier  
Yard as a hop?
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I don't think this would be too big a deal either way. Sometimes you have  
to take a little "modelers license" to make things work.



So for  modeling the mills, is it more realistic to have ore cars switched 
into a  dumping yard to stockpile it for the mill to use at leasure or to  
have  loaded hoppers put right up the the mills for direct loading into the  
plant?
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Steel mills are massive structures and difficult to model. Most blast  
furnaces had a ore yard at which I think the other raw materials may have  been 
dumped by rotary dumper to feed into the furnace. You have to make iron  
before you make steel. A mill could be a facade behind a blast furnace against 
a  wall or backdrop.



So Brier Hill was set up different then  Meadville, where Meadville had 
eastbound yard on the one side of the main and  westbound on the other side of 
the main?
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Calling Steve Timko!



Were there specific EB/WB tracks at  Brier Hill and they just had to cross 
over the opposing main to enter the  yard?
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I think this is true. Calling Steve again.




So perhaps I  should fudge a bit and operate it as a single track CTC main 
and have the other  track be the endless siding.
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I think if you do this you might lose the flavor of the first district. One 
 thing that carries over from the prototype to modeling is the idea of not 
tying  up the main line for switching. I have a double track main on my 
layout and in  switching districts I have done exactly this. A switching lead 
that can be used  by locals so as not to have to go out on the main.
 
Rick Fleischer
Cortland, OH.


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