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Re: (erielack) EL "Canstock car"
According to Morning Sun's Chessie System Color Guide to Freight Equipment,
page 68. The B&O Canstock cars had 4 moveable bulkheads. That tells me they
hauled at least 4 coils and more likely 8 (or more). It's been 20 years
since I've seen 1, and never saw one with the doors open, but they always
looked like neat, easy to model one of a a kind cars.
They loaded one end, then the other. Issue wasn't the size of the coils, but
getting them loaded and the forklift back out. They only had 150 in 2
groups, so I am speculating they basicly served one customer, maybe, again
guessing, American Can. Since AM Can had facilities all over the northeast,
anyone know if I am right, and why only B&O seems to have had this design?
Reason for the box car was the steel or aluminum was only .006" thick and
needed more protection then regular coiled steel.
Hope this helps.
Frank
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
To: "EL Mailing List" <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>; "Josh Blevins"
<stillbre_@_yahoo.com>; "Paul Tupaczewski" <paultup@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: (erielack) EL "Canstock car"
> Josh, this load scenario is not possible. The B&O cars were designed with
> an 87 ton capacity; I've never seen a forklift that could hoist 43 tons.
> Something that heavy requires an overhead crane. The coils were much
> smaller, and much of the extra tare in the 45 ton Lt Wt is multiple load
> restraints. I favor Larry's explanation: offset doors permitted
> simultaneous access by forklifts from both sides, facilitating rapid
> loading/unloading.
>
> Paul B
>
> From: Josh Blevins <stillbre_@_yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: (erielack) EL "Canstock car"
>
> This is a re-occuring thread over on the Modern Freight Car List on Yahoo.
> The "Canstock" cars were designed to haul coils of tin used for making tin
> cans. Hence the "Canstock" in quotes. Tin coils would be very heavy. A
> load like this would commonly be carried in a covered gondola but since it
> needed to be protected from the elements more than an aluminum coil or
> steel coil it was carried in a box car. Also, because of their size, the
> tin coils are difficult to maneuver into and out of a box car with
> centered doors. If I recall correctly, the discussion on the MFCL
> indicated that the coils were too large to be loaded thru centered doors
> and moved over the trucks of the car. This means you could only load 1
> per car. By offseting the door towards the ends of the cars, you could
> load two coils. Each coil sat over top the trucks.
>
>
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