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Re: (erielack) NY Connecting RR/NY Harbor Ops

Much of the traffic going to NYC's West Side line was high-rated including 
perishables (meat), and so was expedited by the fastest route. Carfloat 
operation was generally slow and expensive, and therefore avoided when 
possible. NYC 60th St interchange coming in from the south via Washington 
and Harrisburg was best handled by float, while a significant portion of 
cars coming in from the midwest were likely given a routing that would get 
them on the NYC west of Selkirk. Floating direct to 60th St avoided the 
additional move of transfer to Weehawken.

Paul B

From: "R.A. Heiss" <nyharborfan_@_yahoo.com>
Subject: (erielack) NY Connecting RR/NY Harbor Ops

As Jim Guthrie said, it is all about when in history we are discussing when 
it comes to this part of NY's railroad infrastructure. To reiterate, without 
risking too much off-topic info, The NH owned from Port Morris in the Bronx 
to Fresh Pond Jct,And the LIIR south to Bay Ridge, because this part of the 
NY Connecting was built previously, as the LIRR's Bay Ridge Branch.Today, 
Amtrak owns south from the Bronx to Sunnyside Jct in Woodside Queens, CSX 
from there to Fresh Pond Jct, and NY&A south of Fresh Pond to Bay Ridge. 
Now, to keep this topical to the EL list, going back to the question 
regarding the NYC's 60th St yard on the west side of Manhattan, and why 
would there be cars floated to here from New Jersey railroads, when they 
could just as easily have interchanged cars via Weehawken with the NYC, the 
fact is that EVERY railroad on the NJ side sent floats here, even the NYC 
out of Weehawken. As it was said previously, any freight bound for NYC
 proper (West Side Freight Line, Put Div) would go this way, rather than all 
the way to Selkirk and then down again. Of course, later on, PC probably 
made a point of sending freight this way just to discourage shippers. One of 
the quirks of the NY Harbor tariff system I alluded to in my earlier post 
was the fact that say for instance, the Erie could by all rights interchange 
a car to the DL&W via one of the NY contract terminal RR's (BEDT, NYD, etc), 
but there would absolutely never be a reason to logically do so - Why send a 
car to Brooklyn first when you can send it directly to Seacaucus the first 
time - But the fact is the rules allowed for it. I strongly doubt it was 
ever done, but who knows? But those of us who are familiar with NY Harbor 
operations, there was an extreme LACK of logic for how things were 
done!Ralph HeissS. Plainfield, NJ
 


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