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(erielack) DL&W HW Parlor Cars

Michael and all,

Posted is a photo of the Walthers 28-1 parlor car.  Does anyone know if this 
the one that matches the DL&W "Julia Ward Howe" or "Virginia Dare"?  No one 
has turned up a photo of either in DL&W service as yet.

Based on the feedback thus far, it appears as though both may have been 
repainted in GMY about the time of the introduction of the LW equipment in 
1949.

Does any one know for sure?  What trains were these used on?

Thanks.

Bill Botkin
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Mang" <mnmang_@_comcast.net>
To: "Erie Lackawanna List" <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: (erielack) parlor cars


> The cars were sold to the DL&W in late 1945 (according to Tom Madden's
> Pullman car construction record database).
>
> I have believed that the DL&W's passenger cars were not painted GMY until
> the delivery of the Phoebe Snow lightweight cars in 1949 or so. If that's
> the case, then the parlors quite possibly could have been in a green
> Lackawanna scheme in that period.
>
> I have found one picture of "Julia Ward Howe" in service in 1969 on the 
> LIRR
> with new windows as the "Shinnecock".
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~jhdeasy/lirr/heavyweight_shinnecock.html
>
>
> Michael Mang
>
>
>> > Art - Is the Walthers car you are referring to termed
>> > "Pullman Heavyweight
>> > 28-1 Parlor Car" by Walthers?  If so, it is available in
>> > Pullman Green with the "Pullman" letterboard, Cat# 932-10301.
>> >  The undec version is #932-10300.
>>
>> Bill Greenberg, the DL&W passenger car guru who gave me the list of
>> names for the decals sets, noted that the three cars in question were
>> painted GMY, and he didn't have records of them in Pullman Green and
>> DL&W lettering (I suppose they were Pullman cars at that point?)
>>
>> Just an FYI...
>>
>> - Paul
>>
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