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RE: (erielack) Special Day? What if?
I'll agree that the DL&W was desparate...no argument there. The Garrett
Mountain deal with NJ-DOT was definitely with the EL's management, however,
and Conrail used it--the abandonment of that short segment--as one reason
for abandoning the Scranton Division 15 years later. As for the NY section
of DL&W mainline...who knows? Actually, if the truth be known, I'm more
upset with Perry Shoemaker than the Erie folks. Even Shoemaker
subsequently had misgivings regarding his involvement in the EL merger.
The big question is what could be have done differently?
Chuck
"Tupaczewski,
Paul R (Paul)"
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RE: (erielack) Special Day? What
if?
Chuck Walsh wrote:
> Yep. We're looking at the same map...and west of Binghamton,
> as a result
> of the EL merger, what wasn't abandoned outright on the DL&W side was
> eventually downgraded to branch status during the early EL
> years (that's
> about 200 miles of a 396 mile mainline).
Wasn't htis process started pre-merger, when the Erie and DL&W consolidated
their lines? Remember - the DL&W was beginning to struggle, with
consolidation and single-tracking (think Cut-Off) the result of that. All
the EL merger did is make it easier to "rationalize." Even without the
merger, you would have seen the Lackawanna chopping to save $$$.
> In addition, the
> Garret Mountain
> section of the Boonton Line that you refer to, as well as the
> mainline west
> of Vestal, NY were sold off to the states of New Jersey and
> New York to
> become parts of Route I-80 and NY-17, respectively...for
> which the railroad
> was compensated.
But once again, the EL merger had no bearing on this, either.
By the way, at least one person came up with a way to "resurrect the DL&W"
- - read Steve Kay's "Background history" of his HO scale Lackawanna Terminal
Railway here to see how he addressed restoring the DL&W:
http://www.ltths.org/lack.html
- Paul
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