Fw: (erielack) Seatrain (was: NY-98 spotting feature)

["Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>]

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From: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
To: "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)" <paultup_@_lucent.com>; "EL Mailing List"
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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: (erielack) Seatrain (was: NY-98 spotting feature)


> Thanks for clearing that up, Paul. Seatrain's Container Division was a
> pretty big player. Their entry in the July '73 OG lists weekly container
> service from five east coast ports to PR (twice weekly from NY), four east
> coast ports to five European ports, and weekly service from Oakland to
Japan
> and Hawaii. It ran the first landbridge trains in the US beginning in Aug
> '72 (Oakland-N Bergen NJ via ATSF-PC), and IIRC the first microbridge
train
> in 1970 (Oakland-Houston via WP-ATSF). The NY containerport was at
Weehawken
> ("Port Seatrain"), a short hop from N Bergen but the landbridge operation
> was certainly not "dock to dock". I don't imagine you could get today's
> containerships up there. Do you have any shots of Seatrain corrugated
ctrs?
> I've seen only smooth-side. I ck'd the RMIG website and the last two
> installments are no longer available. Good website, though.
>
> Paul B
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)" <paultup_@_lucent.com>
> To: "'Paul Brezicki'" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>; "EL Mailing List"
> <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:15 AM
> Subject: RE: (erielack) Seatrain (was: NY-98 spotting feature)
>
>
> > Paul B. asked:
> >
> >
> > > I've
> > > always wondered
> > > about Seatrain Lines, a large American Flag carrier that disappeared
> > > somewhere around 1980, either went oob or more likely was merged into
> > > another shipping line. Is anyone familiar with that company?
> >
> > There was an excellent 4-part article in the Rail-Marine Information
> Group's magazine several years ago about Seatrain; you can still purchase
> photocopies from them.
> >
> > Seatrain started off as (surprise!) trains going over the sea. They had
a
> fleet of large ships that held several tracks, and they'd load boxcars
into
> the ships, just like they load containers today. The cars were shipped to
> Havana, Cuba (prior to Castro), and somewhere in Texas, I believe. After a
> while, the company switched to containerization.
> >
> > There's an excellent picture in my Susquehanna book of the pier at
> Edgewater where Seatrain left from in the 1940s-1950s. I also have a photo
> of the train-carrying boats shortly before their scrapping in the early
> 1970s, I'll post those tonight.
> >
> > It went bankrupt in the early 1980s and was dissolved, apparently. They
> managed to get 40' corrugated ISO containers (leased), so they got almost
> into the "modern" intermodal times.
> >
> > - Paul
>


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