Re: Re:RE: (erielack) Edgewater

["Jim Guthrie" <jguthrie_@_pipeline.com>]

> The map in Bill Sheppard's book shows the "NYS&W Northern Extension" 
> reaching from Edgewater toward Fort Lee, but not getting there.  It shows 
> the "NYS&W Southern Extension" going from Edgewater to the tunnel mouth in 
> Weehawken.  This map is from the 1921 PA report retraced to show 
> conditions in 1942.

That's incorrect. The NYS&W ended somewhat north of Weehawken. I guess I'm 
going to have to go to the files on this, but I believe it was at the 
Hudson/Bergen County line. Earlier, the NYS&W predecessor New Jersey Midland 
owned land at the Weehawken Ferry (not to mention the ferry itself) but I 
suspect that's earlier than we're talking about <g>.
>
> None of the contemporary, pertinent, governing tariffs show Erie as 
> serving Edgewater.

The Erie did not "serve" Edgewater customers -- the NYS&W did. But it had 
operating rights to get there via the NYCentral from Weehawken.

Keep in mind, the Northern and Southern Extensions were part of the Erie 
Terminals Company, jointly owned by the NYS&W and Erie c1907-1940 -- not 
strictly NYS&W, so we may be splitting a few hairs here, depending on the 
year you're looking at. But the Erie advertised Egewater as its own on 
various occasions, too.

There were a variety of interesting trackage rights and operating rights 
arrangements at different times -- the Erie from Passaic Jct to Croxton; the 
Erie from Passaic Jct. to Little Ferry (Even the L&NE got into Little Ferry, 
for that matter).  There were also the Waldwick-Jersey City commuter trains 
via the NYS&W, but I digress . . .

Cheers,
Jim 



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