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As of Friday, $67/bbl and counting. $100 by Dec 31? Sooner if the Saudi
monarchy is overthrown. You won't find any buyers for that SUV you can't
afford to drive. But I digress...

I'll add the tunnel under the Welland Canal at Dain Ont. Three tracks, four
RR's,  completed in 1973 to replace lift bridges on PC (MC) and
N&W (Wabash), Chessie (PM) and CN trackage rights.

I think my "truck float" idea would work today, a quick fix to get tall
trailers to Mhtn, Brooklyn and Queens whlie they debate the freight tunnel.
However after reading comments in the List the past several days, I realize
the concept is far too sensible to maneuver through the convoluted NY
politics.

Paul Brezicki

At the risk of continuing off-topic, I have to look at the practicality of
rail freight tunnels under water.

They aren't.

Can you name three?

Detroit-Windsor (NYC/MC)

Port Huron-Sarnia (GTW/CN)

And . . .?

The problem is the gradient needed to get under the channel and back up with
thousands of ton of freight, laid upon the difficulty of driving a tunnel
through wet.

More than a mile to get down; more than a mile to get across; and more than
a mile to get up -- all through slop, at best.

There's a very good reason there's no rail tunnel for freight under any part
of New York Harbor -- and never will be, until oil goes to $100/barrel.
Then we might start serious study.  Until then . . . and even so, car float
is cheaper and easier and in place.

Randy Brown



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