RE: (erielack) Lackawanna Lightweight Coaches

[Charles_Walsh_@_Berlex.com]

Presumably with the DL&W's track the light-weight coaches had a ride
equivalent to the Erie heavyweights on Erie track.



                                                                                                                                      
                      Tim                                                                                                             
                      <njmidland_@_peoplepc.c                                                                                           
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                                                    RE: (erielack) Lackawanna Lightweight Coaches                                     
                      03/09/2005 09:41 AM                                                                                             
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Lightweight coaches are more at the mercy of track condition than
heavyweight cars.  This is especially true if the heavyweight car has 3
axle trucks.  I suspect that by the late 60's track condition was such that
it would matter.  I rode the Milwaukee Road (on Amtrak) from Chicago to
Minneapolis in the early 1980's in one of the ex-Sante Fe "El Capitan" cars
and felt like I was out on the ocean.  A couple of times I thought we were
on the ground.  On the way back I was on an ex-IC heavyweight business car
and the ride was smooth enough that wine didn't spill out of the wine
glasses.

I have been told be many people that diner 741 always rode very well.

Tim

- -----Original Message-----
From: "Montgomery, Edward T" <Edward.Montgomery_@_fcps.edu>
Sent: Mar 9, 2005 8:09 AM
To: Richard Recordon <recordor_@_comcast.net>,
             EL List <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
Subject: RE: (erielack) Lackawanna Lightweight Coaches

LAST NIGHT I REMEMBERED WHERE I GOT THE IDEA THAT THE LACKAWANNA
LIGHTWEIGHT COACHES HAD PROBLEMS.  IN THE SPRING OF 1972 WILLIAM D.
MIDDLETON WROTE AN ARTICLE IN "TRAINS" ABOUT RIDING THE ERIE AND
ERIE-LACKAWANNA BETWEEN CHICAGO AND JERSEY CITY HOBOKEN.  HE MENTIONED
THAT HE WOULD BE ONE OF THE FEW PASSENGERS WHO WOULD MAKE THE END-TO-END
TRIP.  HE COMPLAINED THAT AFTER THE MERGER THE OLD ERIE REBUILT COACHES
WERE REPLACED WITH THE LACKAWANNA CARS WHICH HE DESCRIBED AS DESIGNED
MORE FOR DAY-COACH PASSENGERS.  HE MENTIONED THAT THE ERIE CARS WERE
BETTER FOR OVERNIGHT TRAVEL.  ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?

ED MONTGOMERY


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