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RE: RE: (erielack) Lackawanna Lightweight Coaches
- Subject: RE: RE: (erielack) Lackawanna Lightweight Coaches
- From: "Joshua K. Blay" <mail_@_joshuakblay.com>
- Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:51:05 -0500
No Erie cars remain in Cooperstown. I do believe there is an ex DO
heavyweight business car being used in NJ for an art gallery.
The passenger cars that remain in Cooperstown are-
A former LV parlor car used on the Black Diamond.
William White's business, car, ex EL, D&H, NYC, etc.
Joshua
> The Susquehanna got their hands on two of the former Erie heavyweight
coaches, and even had one beautifully redone in NYS&W paint. I think it
ran on one trip, then both cars were put out to pasture (and I forget
the reason why). I also think that one of these cars eventually did get
used as an art gallery or some such use in Cooperstown, NY?
>
> - Paul
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Janet & Randy Brown [mailto:jananran_@_mymailstation.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:32 AM
> > To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
> > Subject: Re:RE: (erielack) Lackawanna Lightweight Coaches
> >
> >
> > Ed -- The main difference was the number and type of seats.
> > The Erie cars had Heywood-Wakefield "Sleepy Hollow" reclining
> > chairs which were specifically designed for overnight runs,
> > and they had no more than 52, spaced on a 44" pitch, in most
> > cars. The Lackawanna lightweights had 62 seats, spaced much
> > closer together.
> >
> > The Erie cars were heavier and seemed to me to ride smoother.
> > Have any of the Erie heavyweights survived?
> >
> > Randy Brown
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > LAST NIGHT I REMEMBERED WHERE I GOT THE IDEA THAT THE
> > LACKAWANNA LIGHTWEIGHT COACHES HAD PROBLEMS. IN THE SPRING
> > OF 1972 WILLIAM D. MIDDLETON WROTE AN ARTICLE IN "TRAINS"
> > ABOUT RIDING THE ERIE AND ERIE-LACKAWANNA BETWEEN CHICAGO AND
> > JERSEY CITY HOBOKEN. HE MENTIONED THAT HE WOULD BE ONE OF
> > THE FEW PASSENGERS WHO WOULD MAKE THE END-TO-END TRIP. HE
> > COMPLAINED THAT AFTER THE MERGER THE OLD ERIE REBUILT COACHES
> > WERE REPLACED WITH THE LACKAWANNA CARS WHICH HE DESCRIBED AS
> > DESIGNED MORE FOR DAY-COACH PASSENGERS. HE MENTIONED THAT
> > THE ERIE CARS WERE BETTER FOR OVERNIGHT TRAVEL. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?
> >
> > ED MONTGOMERY
> >
>
>
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