Re: (erielack) EL Business car train and dispositions?

[James G Flynn <jimbatt1_@_juno.com>]

        As long as we're ruminating about ex Erie / EL passenger
equipment, I have another mid-winter question.
        Is there an ex-Erie /EL sleeper at the Mad River & NKP Museum in
Bellevue, Ohio ?  Or is my imagination playing tricks on me ?
        Thought I read or heard somewhere that one of the 6-6-4
"American" series cars ended up there.  
        A couple of weeks ago, right before one of the "big snows", my
wife and I were in that area and stopped by the museum (closed for the
winter).  I was still able to get around outside of the grounds (look
through the fence etc.).  I think I covered it sufficiently enough to be
able to say that if the sleeper is there, it's someplace not readily
accessible.  It would be big enough that I should have been able at least
see it from a distance.  But no trace of it !
        Anybody know anything about this car ?
        
        Jim Flynn                
        ELHS # 2598
        jimbatt1_@_juno.com    

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:28:00 -0500 "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)"
<paultup_@_lucent.com> writes:
> > I was sitting around the house during the last snow storm 
> > wondering about various things and one was the EL business train 
> > which consisted of the "Spirit of Youngstown" sandwiched by two 
> > business cars.  An elegant consist, but what was it actually used 
> 
> > for.  I know that Gregory Maxwell toured the system with it.  I 
> > assume that it might have carried officials back and forth between 
> 
> > Cleveland and Hoboken, but what else was done with it?  It had a 
> > limited capacity for carrying passengers or businessmen.  Did EL 
> > use it to attract traffic?  I don't think the sleeping car 
> > accomodations were ever used for overnight travel and there was 
> > probably limited food preparation aboard the business cars.  
> > Anybody know just how the train was used?
> 
> The Spirit was a sleeper, and might have been used for the crews 
> (much like how CSX uses the car today)
> 
>  
> > I also remember an additional business car stationed at Marion in 
> 
> > the mid-70s.  Were there other official cars spread around the 
> > system aside from this train?
> 
> At the end of the road, the EL had two business cars, to the best of 
> my knowledge - #3 and #300 (Pres. White's ex-D&H car). The 
> 3/Spirit/300 sandwich was a common sight on the many business trains 
> that ran in the 1973-1976 timeframe to show off the property to 
> potential suitors, as well as E8s 825 and 833 pulling this consist.
> 
> Of the EL's business car fleet, the 3 ex-DL&W cars (97, 98, 99) were 
> the first to leave the roster, sometime in the early 1960s.
> 
> I know that the #1 was sold to a private individual in the early 
> 1970s, and was stored at the L&HR enginehouse in Warwick, NY for 
> quite some time. Anyone know where it went?
> 
> Not sure when the #2 was sold, but today it's restored and in 
> private hands, based out of Bloomsburg, PA on the North Shore RR 
> (ex-DL&W Bloomsburg Branch, how appropriate!)
> 
> The #3 today is restored to its Erie 2-tone glory at Steamtown.
> 
>         - Paul
> 
> 

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