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RE: FW: (erielack) New book w/EL content



The Literary street yard in Cleveland is now an asphalt company, the steel
blocks from the overpass over West 3rd going to the yard are still on the
sidewalks, the stone abuttments are all over the industrial flats where the
EL crossed over the W&LE, the NYC but the bridges are gone.  The lift bridge
from the east side of the Cuyahoga to the west is gone.  There are some
interesting flat paved spots where there were grade crossings on Literary
Avenue (looks like it was 4-5 tracks wide as it was the yard lead) and on
University Avenue at the west end of Literary Yard where a spur tailed off
to few industries.  There is also a bump in the road on Quigley Ave. where
the interchange track from Literary Yard went down grade to the B&O Clark
Avenue Yard.  All that track is gone and there is a small park in the back
that was built for the housing project on the hill.  Most of that right of
way is owned by the city now, I believe.  The line leading to the ore docks
is now paved and over grown.  There is some rail that can be spotted that
was left in the road but paved over on Riverbed Ave. which lead to the
"tunnels" going toward the docks.  The tunnel part of the ROW are now
occupied by homeless people.  And the Cleveland line is basically an
industrial spur leading to North Randall from where the 55th Street yard was
(still is really, though it is fenced in and there are only a few tracks
that NS uses, I believe it is referred to as the Randall Secondary, the rest
of the yard is a scrap dealer/junk yard if I'm not mistaken).  From there it
leads to Mike's comments about the Cleveland line.
Steve


> -----Original Message-----
> From: erielack-owner_@_lists.railfan.net
> [mailto:erielack-owner_@_lists.railfan.net]On Behalf Of Michael Riley
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:55 AM
> To: paultup_@_lucent.com; erielack@lists.railfan.net
> Subject: Re: FW: (erielack) New book w/EL content
>
>
> on the former Cleveland line, Mahoning Div., First Sub Division,
> most of it
> has been turned back into private property.  Some of it is an ATV
> trail as
> some people have used it for.  One person made it a driveway to
> his property
> and another business uses part of it as a truck entrance into their
> business.  There is a realtor in my hometown that said he bought
> 5,000 acres
> of the former ROW on this line to make sure that the railroad never comes
> through again.  I didn't hear this myself, my parents did and told me the
> story.  Part of the ROW is a McDonald's also.  I have also heard
> that out on
> the west end (farther out as in Indiana) that most of it has been
> put back
> into private property (i.e. corn fields? I think).
>
> Mike Riley
>
>
> >Walt Fles asked me:
> >
> > >It's interesting as to how much is let untouched after the abandonment.
> >There are some sections that have been encroached upon, others that still
> >have ties and ballast
> > >lying their in the weeds.  A good section in Crown Point is overgrown
> >with
> >trees and still has the signal poles intact.  Is there come
> criteria as to
> >who can touch the former
> > >ROW and when/how?
> >
> >
> >That's a darn good question! Does anyone know the answer to
> this? Who owns
> >the land on the abandoned parts of the EL today?
> >
> >	- Paul
>
>
>
>
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