Re: (erielack) re:Jersey City terminals

[Ken <lackawanna_@_iname.com>]

I also doubt that there was a Vesey St. Station.  It's not mentioned in 
'Rails under the Mighty Hudson," and there's no break in the tube between 
Exc hange Place and WTC.  You will recall that there was a 28th St. station 
originally, the platforms of which are still visible.  If there had been a 
Vesey St. station, I think that the platforms would still be around.


Ken B.

At 07:42 PM 1/6/02 -0800, Tom Beckett wrote:
>The H&M stations on the 33rd St line are Christopher St, 9th, 14th, 23rd,
>33rd. The line comes into Manhattan under Morton St, then turns north under
>Greenwich, then east on Christopher til it turns north under 6th Av, which
>it follows to the terminus at 33rd.
>
>Vesey St is down near the WTC, and would have been served by the Hudson
>Terminal line, though I doubt there was ever a Vesey St station.
>
>TAB
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Janet & Randy Brown" <jananran_@_mymailstation.com>
>To: <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
>Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 5:00 AM
>Subject: (erielack) re:Jersey City terminals
>
>
> > Alan -- If you can find a good current map of Jersey City, it will help.
> From South to North:
> >   CNJ [also used by RDG and B&O] -- now Liberty State Park
> >   PRR
> >   ERIE [also used by NYS&W]
> > JC/Hoboken city line
> >   DL&W
> >
> > Path served all but the CNJ.  Coming east from Newark, Path runs along the
>old PRR line to Journal Square and Exchange Place and on under the river to
>the WTC.  Used to go to Hudson Terminal, in Erie days -- a little further
>inland from WTC -- and it may again.
> >
> > At Exchange Place, a line turns left, runs north to Hoboken, turns riht
>and ends under the north side platforms of the DL$W terminal. A station at
>Pavonia Avenue "served" the Erie terminal but, because Path is so far
>inland, it was quite a hike from the Path to the Erie.
> >
> > Of course, it was the Hudson & Manhattan [H&M] "Tubes" then.
> >
> > Between Pavonia Avenue ["Erie"] and Hoboken, the 33rd Street line turned
>east, went under the river, and zig-zagged north more or less between 6th
>and 7th Avenues to Herald Square, where it dead-ended under the intersection
>of 6th, Broadway and 33rd Street.  It had stops along the way at, like,
>Vesey St, 19th St, 23rd St.
> >
> > There was service from Journal Square via Exchange Place to down town or,
>via Erie, to uptown or, via Erie, to Hoboken; from Hoboken to uptown or, via
>Erie and Exchange Place, to downtown.  Through runs from Newark went
>downtown.  It was easy to get on the wrong train!
> >
> > And then, 'way up in Weehawken, there was the NYC's West Shore terminal,
>used also by NYO&W, with only ferry connection to Manhattan, unless you used
>a bus. :=(
> >
> > Randy Brown ELHS#16
> >
> > PS: Moodna Viaduct crossed Moodna Creek.  Why "Moodna?"  I dunno; ask an
>Indian.
> >

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