From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001501c51d91$566266c0$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:30:49 -0500 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Railway Properties Make Wonderful Homes for Those Happy to Love and Live in Part of the Nation's Heritage From the Mail on Sunday. Bernie Wagenblast Transportation Communications Newsletter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I Always Wanted to Be a Train Driver. Now I Own a Station... And Sleep in the Ladies' Waiting Room ; Railway Properties Make Wonderful Homes for Those Happy to Love and Live in Part of the Nation's Heritage You don't have to have dreamed of being a train driver since you were five to enjoy living in a station. But it can help, especially when railway enthusiasts turn up at your door fascinated by the cut of the canopy over the platform and the emblem on the ironwork. Or there are times when the local heritage society wants steam trains to chug a few feet from your kitchen window on summer weekends and wonders if you'll show the WI your ticket rack. As it happens, Nigel Teulon was one of these five-year-olds, climbing wide-eyed aboard engines and into signal boxes whenever kind-hearted rail staff near his Cambridgeshire home would let him. He went on to work for British Rail and is now an engineering standards manager for One Railways, based at Norwich. At 40, he's still a railway romantic. 'It's great to delve into the history of the railways in a district, learn about the people who worked at a particular station and think of those who used it, maybe went to war from it, kissing loved ones goodbye for the last time on the platform,' he says wistfully. Nigel's home is a country station in Hardingham, Norfolk. It was built in 1845, abandoned by the Great Eastern Railway in 1969 and was a wreck in 1995 when Nigel bought it. He lived in a caravan for five years while painstakingly restoring and converting it into a stylish three-bedroom home. 'What used to be the ladies' waiting room is now my bedroom,' he says. Nigel isn't thinking of selling. He's far too excited about the steam trains that will run past his platforms from May when a heritage line, organised by the Mid-Norfolk Railway Preservation Trust, starts up, the sidings are landscaped and a signal box restored. But when owners of the more than 1,000 decommissioned railway properties on both closed and working lines now converted into residences decide to move, they often contact Ray King, editor of Traction And Rolling Stock Advertiser, to spread the word. 'Maybe you wouldn't want to live right next to a track at Clapham Junction, but in country towns and villages, it's a different- matter,' he says. 'Railway stations were very important to the community 100 years ago and were well-built, usually at the end of imposing driveways, because the railway companies had lots of money. It's not surprising they convert so well.' Joiner Carl Dare, 62, would agree. He and his son Ian, 43, also a joiner, have restored and lived in several. 'My late wife and I always loved trains and stations and my son inherited our passion. The noise is like birdsong to us,' he jokes. 'I often wave to passing drivers. And it's good to know that if petrol prices go up and I can't afford to drive, I can always catch a train a few yards from our front door.' They have recently converted what was once a large goods shed in Nafferton, East Yorkshire, where two-carriage trains now pass on the Scarborough to Hull line every half an hour. Carl bought it in 1999 as a total wreck and worked on it for nearly three years. Now it's for sale at about Pounds 585,000. It's a strikingly attractive Grade II listed building with thick walls, 15ft-high windows, a galleried open hall, four bedroomstwo bathrooms, an office and an orangery: a light, airy hall almost 50ft by 30ft, ideal for use as a studio, workshop or garden business premises. The Dares actually live in a former station master's house nine miles away in Bridlington, bought 23 years ago when 'the doors were hanging off and the roof had holes in'. It's also on a working line and up for sale. 'We'll stay in whichever is not sold. Or if another great place comes on the market, we'll move there,' says Carl. But it would have to be by a railway: 'I'd never want to live in a normal house.' Rebecca Turner, 34, a childminder, and husband Howard, 46, a studio sound engineer, are selling a very different- property: the Station Master's House at North Elmham, near Dereham, Norfolk, on the market for Pounds 325,000. Built about 1830, it was originally the gatehouse to an old school taken over by the founder of the famous children's charity, Thomas Barnardo, in 1903. 'Apparently, the headmaster then bribed the railway to put a station here to serve the school by offering the gatehouse as the station house,' says Rebecca. It was the sturdiness of the house and its location at the end of a long private drive, with views of fields and open woodland, that attracted her six years ago. There is a large living room with open fire, four bedrooms, a room in a turret, a new extension housing a large kitchen/diner, utility room and cloakroom, all exquisitely fitted and decorated. 'I'm not a trainspotter but my son Alex, five, and daughter Maddie, three, and their friends love being next to a railway line,' she says. 'It's like living in a Thomas The Tank Engine story. They are entranced by the old carriage which sits on the track. They think it's wonderful that the Mid-Norfolk Railway plans to restore the line there should be weekend heritage services running in a few years' time. 'And they love looking around the former station on the other side of our garden. The trust has restored it and it's open as a visitors' tearoom during the summer.' Retired teacher Valerie Madle, now in her 60s, enjoys her home's links with railway history, too. She has lived for 35 years in what she believes was the only station mistress's house in Britain, by the former Langford Station halt, near Maldon, Essex, and her daughter Flora, 30, grew up there. She is selling at an asking price of Pounds 215,000 only because she now finds the steps down to the cottage from the railway bridge hard to manage. She spotted the classic Grade II 1840s cottage, with its triangular garden, while driving across the railway bridge to the side of it. The former residents sold train tickets from the window of what became her bathroom, put the flag out to stop the train and worked the level crossing. But the line had been a casualty of Dr Beeching's cuts in the Sixties. 'The track was later taken up and the land cleared for cyclists and runners following the Blackwater Rail Trail. I've kept a few of the signs and often show enthusiasts old photographs and the remains of the platform,' she says. Like Valerie, Neil Ambrose who is selling his home, the stonewalled Dent Station in the village of Cowgill, Cumbria, knows it will be hard finding anywhere else as interesting. At 1,150ft above sea level, Dent Station is the country's highest mainline station and it has spectacular views in all directions. Converted and upgraded after British Rail sold it in 1985, the station now has three bedrooms, one with the original ticket sales window. The ladies' waiting room is now a kitchen and the original sandstone walls in the downstairs gents' toilets, as well as many other period details, have been preserved. There is also a large snow hut, used for snow clearance work and once used to billet troops. What's more, trains stop at the platform every hour and a half, taking passengers to all stations on the Settle to Carlisle line. So you could say the house, with a price tag of Pounds 280,000, has excellent transport links. . Sunnyside House, Nafferton: Dee Atkinson And Harrison, 01377 241919. Langford Station, Maldon: 01621 852674. Stationmaster's House, North Elmham: Sowerbys, 01485 533666. Dent Station, Cowgill: Bairstow Eves, 01524 262044. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1097 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <006501c51f30$2fb6d650$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:00:26 -0500 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Pawtucket-Central Falls, RI From yesterday's Providence Journal. Bernie Wagenblast Transportation Communications Newsletter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Council Rejects Plan to Save Train Station Mar. 1--PAWTUCKET -- Last month, the City Council gave preliminary approval to a measure that would pave the way for a developer to tear down the Pawtucket-Central Falls train station and build a small shopping plaza in its place. Last night, the council gave equal time to a competing proposal, put forward by the Pawtucket Foundation and supported by Mayor James E. Doyle, that would preserve the train station and explore the possibility of restoring it as a commuter rail stop. The measure, which involved acquiring the train station by eminent domain, failed on a 4-to-4 vote. Supporters of the Pawtucket Foundation proposal crowded the council chamber. The list of speakers included such heavyweights as Arnold B. "Buff" Chace, the Providence developer busy turning empty commercial buildings into upscale apartment houses, and Friedrich St. Florian, the architect who designed the Providence Place mall and the World War II memorial in Washington, D.C. But the majority of council members were nevertheless skeptical of the Pawtucket Foundation plan, which involves acquiring the property by eminent domain while the developer, Oscar W. Seelbinder of Memphis, Tenn., is offering Jean Vitali, the mother of newly elected City Councilor Albert J. Vitali Jr., $1.4 million for the property. Vitali recused himself from the public hearing. Other council members, among them Robert E. Carr, David P. Moran, David Clemente and Paul J. Wildenhain, made no secret of their skepticism, peppering speakers with adversarial and sometimes argumentative questions. For example, when Arthur Hansen, the Central Falls director of planning, said that Mayor Charles Moreau and the Central Falls City Council supports the Pawtucket Foundation plan, Carr asked, "I was just wondering if Central Falls will be paying half of the cost of eminent domain." When Peter F. Kilmartin, a state representative well liked by council members, said he had gotten the General Assembly to appropriate $400,000 for a study to explore the feasibility of the Pawtucket Foundation proposal, City Councilor Paul J. Wildenhain demanded to know why no one from the Doyle administration has sat down with the developer to work out a compromise. "This is an abuse of public power. This is the power of the few trying to influence something for their own benefit," Seelbinder's lawyer, Thomas V. Moses, told a reporter during the hearing. "It's very frustrating, trying to meet with public officials and being rejected. 'We're proposing the exact same project," Moses declared. Moses didn't elaborate, but, in prior statements, he and Seelbinder have said that the developer's plan calls for restoring commuter rail service to the station, just as the Pawtucket Foundation proposal does. In an interview, Mayor Doyle disputed that, pointing out that the developer himself said he plans to tear down the train station and redevelop the 3.4-acre property as a shopping plaza before looking into the restoration of commuter rail. The Pawtucket Foundation plan, by contrast, would solicit proposals from developers who promise to preserve the 90-year-old Beaux Arts train station and restore commuter rail service before developing stores and businesses on the site. Doyle also took exception to Moses' charge that such influential downtown property owners as Morris Nathanson and Ranne P. Warner are pushing the Pawtucket Foundation proposal because it would increase the value of their properties. Nathanson, an internationally known restaurant designer, turned a mill building on Exchange Street into offices and artist studios. Warner, a Boston developer, is busy turning a neighboring building into condominiums and lofts. "These are people who've taken the time to come and make a significant investment in the city," Doyle said. "These people, are not, believe me, driving this process in any way, shape or form." Nathanson didn't deny that the Pawtucket Foundation plan would increase the value of his property. But he said that restoring commuter rail service would have a broad economic impact benefiting people on both sides of the tracks. "The thing about the train station is it's great for the poor people. It's great for the people in Pawtucket and Central Falls who really need it," Nathanson said. "Just think of this: You'll have all these elderly people here who'll have a way to get to Boston, a way to get to Green Airport. Just think of what it means for people here who cannot afford to have their kids live in high [-priced] housing in Boston, but who want to go to school there. They can commute." ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <01f901c51f6f$06886480$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:30:15 -0500 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished From Preservation Magazine. Photo available at: http://www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/archives/arc_news_2005/022805.htm Bernie Wagenblast Transportation Communications Newsletter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished Story by Carolyn Galgano / Feb. 28, 2005 The Alabama town that legendary engineer Casey Jones once called home has lost a piece of railroad history. One of only three pre-Civil War railroad structures in the South, the Mobile & Ohio Machine Shop in Prichard, Ala., was demolished earlier this month. In mid-December, workers began dismantling the brick, shed-like building with open arcades and a raised skylight, built in 1851. "The building survived the Civil War, only to be razed 150 years later due to ignorance and indifference," says Robert Gamble, senior architectural historian for the Alabama State Historic Preservation Office. In 1993, the state's department of transportation gave the city a $750,000 grant to turn the site into a museum honoring John Luther "Casey" Jones. Yet, with insufficient support from city officials, plans never came to fruition, and owner Jack Stallworth demolished the run-down machine shops. "The problems were not insurmountable, had the city been able to get behind turning the idea of a museum into a reality," Gamble argues. Yet preservation requires local involvement. "You need to get organized, get one person in charge, and go with it. No one was there to pick up the ball," Gamble says. "The Mobile & Ohio machine shops went down so quietly and so unnoticed." ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <020101c51f6f$6793af50$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:32:58 -0500 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Huntsville, AL Associated Press story and article from The Huntsville Times. Bernie Wagenblast Transportation Communications Newsletter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Railroad, history enthusiasts to join movement to restore Huntsville depot HUNTSVILLE, Ala. Railroad and history buffs are invited to join a movement to restore the old Memphis and Charleston Freight Depot in downtown Huntsville that was badly damaged by a fire last March. The depot, which underwent construction in 1851 and was completed in 1857, is the oldest railroad building in Alabama. It was the second-oldest continually used freight depot in the world until 1996. The depot was nearly demolished until state and federal officials intervened. Norfolk Southern Railroad, the depot's owner, agreed to donate it and lease the site to the Alabama Historical Commission. Officials estimate the restoration project could cost upward of 500-thousand dollars. History buffs hope depot restoration gathers steam Filmmaker to visit; public to bring stories Monday, February 28, 2005 By JOHN PECK Times Staff Writer jpeck_@_htimes.com Railroad enthusiasts, history buffs and anyone else with a penchant for preserving the past are urged to "climb aboard" a movement to restore the old Memphis & Charleston Freight Depot in downtown Huntsville. The depot, which underwent construction in 1851 and was completed in 1857, was badly damaged by fire last March. It was the oldest railroad building in Alabama and, until 1996, the second-oldest continually used freight depot in the world. Union occupation prevented its destruction and also led to its sometime use as a jail for Confederate prisoners. The Historic Huntsville Foundation has invited filmmaker Dorian Walker to show his documentary, "Beauty of the Southland," on the history of the historic L&N Depot in Bowling Green, Ky. The showing will be 7 p.m. Thursday in the Historic Huntsville Depot roundhouse downtown. The event is free and open to the public. By intertwining the history of the depot with the personal recollections of city residents, Walker's documentary became a catalyst for a major restoration of the L&N Depot involving preservationists, the arts community and civic and business leaders. "The depot is one of our primary landmarks. It's a vital part of Huntsville's story," said Annette Philpo't, executive director of the Historic Huntsville Foundation. The roof and part of the walls are burned away, but other features remain. Bulldozers were on the verge of tearing down the remaining parts until intervention from state and federal officials saved it. The depot's owner, Norfolk Southern Railroad, agreed to donate the depot, lease the site to the Alabama Historical Commission and contribute $20,000 toward the cost of emergency repairs. The Alabama Department of Tourism & Travel secured $10,000; and U.S. Rep. Bud Cramer, D-Huntsville, helped nab $100,000. Officials predict the restoration could cost upward of $500,000. Philpo't said the foundation would appreciate written memories of the depot for inclusion in its publication. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002901c51f72$4a89ba00$a118f7a5_@_paul> References: <01f901c51f6f$06886480$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:53:37 -0500 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished Developers would demolish the Pantheon, the Parthenon, anything, they just don't give a crap My fave at moment is the committee chairman in Congress who is planning to punish any Republicans who vote for Amtrak by taking away any transit/transportation funds for their district...I don't see why we give bleep to Putin about democracy, sounds like the kind of stuff he does anyway. And for all who love these people running our land, well you end up eating off your own tail eventually don't you? Paul - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernie Wagenblast" To: "Rail Depot List" Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:30 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished : : From Preservation Magazine. : : Photo available at: : http://www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/archives/arc_news_2005/022805.htm : : Bernie Wagenblast : Transportation Communications Newsletter : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications : : ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ : Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished : : : Story by Carolyn Galgano / Feb. 28, 2005 : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : The Alabama town that legendary engineer Casey Jones once called home has : lost a piece of railroad history. : : One of only three pre-Civil War railroad structures in the South, the Mobile : & Ohio Machine Shop in Prichard, Ala., was demolished earlier this month. In : mid-December, workers began dismantling the brick, shed-like building with : open arcades and a raised skylight, built in 1851. : : "The building survived the Civil War, only to be razed 150 years later due : to ignorance and indifference," says Robert Gamble, senior architectural : historian for the Alabama State Historic Preservation Office. : : In 1993, the state's department of transportation gave the city a $750,000 : grant to turn the site into a museum honoring John Luther "Casey" Jones. : Yet, with insufficient support from city officials, plans never came to : fruition, and owner Jack Stallworth demolished the run-down machine shops. : : "The problems were not insurmountable, had the city been able to get behind : turning the idea of a museum into a reality," Gamble argues. : : Yet preservation requires local involvement. "You need to get organized, get : one person in charge, and go with it. No one was there to pick up the ball," : Gamble says. "The Mobile & Ohio machine shops went down so quietly and so : unnoticed." : : ================================= : The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing : railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org : ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <42263EF9.CAACA403_@_ns.sympatico.ca> References: <01f901c51f6f$06886480$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> <002901c51f72$4a89ba00$a118f7a5@paul> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 18:32:25 -0400 From: Jay Underwood Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished Are these politically inspired posts and foul language really necessary? Jay Underwood Elmsdale NS Paul Luchter wrote: > Developers would demolish the Pantheon, the Parthenon, anything, they just don't give a crap > > My fave at moment is the committee chairman in Congress who is planning to punish any Republicans who vote for Amtrak by taking away > any transit/transportation funds for their district...I don't see why we give bleep to Putin about democracy, sounds like the kind > of stuff he does anyway. > > And for all who love these people running our land, well you end up eating off your own tail eventually don't you? > > Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernie Wagenblast" > To: "Rail Depot List" > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:30 PM > Subject: (rshsdepot) Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished > > : > : From Preservation Magazine. > : > : Photo available at: > : http://www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/archives/arc_news_2005/022805.htm > : > : Bernie Wagenblast > : Transportation Communications Newsletter > : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications > : > : ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > : Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished > : > : > : Story by Carolyn Galgano / Feb. 28, 2005 > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : The Alabama town that legendary engineer Casey Jones once called home has > : lost a piece of railroad history. > : > : One of only three pre-Civil War railroad structures in the South, the Mobile > : & Ohio Machine Shop in Prichard, Ala., was demolished earlier this month. In > : mid-December, workers began dismantling the brick, shed-like building with > : open arcades and a raised skylight, built in 1851. > : > : "The building survived the Civil War, only to be razed 150 years later due > : to ignorance and indifference," says Robert Gamble, senior architectural > : historian for the Alabama State Historic Preservation Office. > : > : In 1993, the state's department of transportation gave the city a $750,000 > : grant to turn the site into a museum honoring John Luther "Casey" Jones. > : Yet, with insufficient support from city officials, plans never came to > : fruition, and owner Jack Stallworth demolished the run-down machine shops. > : > : "The problems were not insurmountable, had the city been able to get behind > : turning the idea of a museum into a reality," Gamble argues. > : > : Yet preservation requires local involvement. "You need to get organized, get > : one person in charge, and go with it. No one was there to pick up the ball," > : Gamble says. "The Mobile & Ohio machine shops went down so quietly and so > : unnoticed." > : > : ================================= > : The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > : railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > : > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003601c51f7b$b02b66c0$a118f7a5_@_paul> References: <01f901c51f6f$06886480$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> <002901c51f72$4a89ba00$a118f7a5@paul> <42263EF9.CAACA403@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:00:53 -0500 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished I thought about that, but if you think that word was dirty well, I can't believe that, and it isn't really politics when it is true no mater what you think...oh leave me alone already you cry babies in power have absolutely no backbone for criticism, and maybe I don't to...too bad, just delete it and for the word every baby knows go do penance or something - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Underwood" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished : Are these politically inspired posts and foul language really necessary? : Jay Underwood : Elmsdale NS : : Paul Luchter wrote: : : > Developers would demolish the Pantheon, the Parthenon, anything, they just don't give a crap : > : > My fave at moment is the committee chairman in Congress who is planning to punish any Republicans who vote for Amtrak by taking away : > any transit/transportation funds for their district...I don't see why we give bleep to Putin about democracy, sounds like the kind : > of stuff he does anyway. : > : > And for all who love these people running our land, well you end up eating off your own tail eventually don't you? : > : > Paul : > ----- Original Message ----- : > From: "Bernie Wagenblast" : > To: "Rail Depot List" : > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:30 PM : > Subject: (rshsdepot) Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished : > : > : : > : From Preservation Magazine. : > : : > : Photo available at: : > : http://www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/archives/arc_news_2005/022805.htm : > : : > : Bernie Wagenblast : > : Transportation Communications Newsletter : > : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications : > : : > : ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ : > : Rare Pre-Civil War Railroad Building Demolished : > : : > : : > : Story by Carolyn Galgano / Feb. 28, 2005 : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : : > : The Alabama town that legendary engineer Casey Jones once called home has : > : lost a piece of railroad history. : > : : > : One of only three pre-Civil War railroad structures in the South, the Mobile : > : & Ohio Machine Shop in Prichard, Ala., was demolished earlier this month. In : > : mid-December, workers began dismantling the brick, shed-like building with : > : open arcades and a raised skylight, built in 1851. : > : : > : "The building survived the Civil War, only to be razed 150 years later due : > : to ignorance and indifference," says Robert Gamble, senior architectural : > : historian for the Alabama State Historic Preservation Office. : > : : > : In 1993, the state's department of transportation gave the city a $750,000 : > : grant to turn the site into a museum honoring John Luther "Casey" Jones. : > : Yet, with insufficient support from city officials, plans never came to : > : fruition, and owner Jack Stallworth demolished the run-down machine shops. : > : : > : "The problems were not insurmountable, had the city been able to get behind : > : turning the idea of a museum into a reality," Gamble argues. : > : : > : Yet preservation requires local involvement. "You need to get organized, get : > : one person in charge, and go with it. No one was there to pick up the ball," : > : Gamble says. "The Mobile & Ohio machine shops went down so quietly and so : > : unnoticed." : > : : > : ================================= : > : The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing : > : railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org : > : : > : > ================================= : > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing : > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org : : : ================================= : The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing : railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org : ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1098 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00e401c52005$65074df0$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 10:26:35 -0500 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Fresno, CA From the California Dept. of Transportation. Link to article with picture: http://www.dot.ca.gov/ctnews/mar05/mar_fresno.htm Bernie Wagenblast Transportation Communications Newsletter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Caltrans Celebrates Grand Opening of Restored Fresno Santa Fe Depot State and local officials recently participated in a grand opening and dedication of the newly restored and rehabilitated Fresno Santa Fe Depot, which serves Amtrak California San Joaquin passenger trains and Thruway Motorcoach service. The $6 million restoration project included new and enlarged Amtrak passenger ticketing and waiting areas, a large ticketing counter, business offices, adjacent retail space, increased parking, new landscaping and better access for buses, taxis and pedestrians. Some 5,400 square feet will be devoted to San Joaquin passenger service. An additional 12,300 square feet will be available for office and retail use. The station now appears as it did in 1899 when it opened as a structure. Important architectural details, such as the iconic station clock and clock tower, have been restored and returned to their former prominence. The clock, fabricated from historical drawings, is a replica of the original. Additions made in 1917 and 1952 obscured the building's tower and clock, porte cochere (coach door) and southwest façade. The additions, along with a 1985 bridge between the depot and freight office, were removed, which exposed parts of the depot not seen in many years. Developed as the Santa Fe Railway Company's Valley Division headquarters, the building went through nine additions and/or renovations between 1908 and 1985. At this point, the Amtrak Station is its original size and is a twin of the Stockton Amtrak station. The Fresno station is one of only a handful of mission style buildings constructed prior to 1900 that are still in existence. Listed on the National Register of Historic Places, the rehabilitated Santa Fe Depot is the latest addition to Fresno's revitalized downtown. Major funding for the restoration came from the California Department of Transportation. The City of Fresno purchased the building and land from Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad. Other fund contributors were California Pollution Control Financing Authority and the State of California Office of Historic Preservation. "The Department of Transportation has joined with many cities to construct and rehabilitate train stations along the state's intercity routes," said Mike Leonardo, District 6 Director. "The rehabilitated Fresno Station acknowledges the growth and success of passenger rail travel today, while paying tribute to the rich history and importance of railroad activity in California." The firm of Reyman Bros. Construction, Inc., of Sparks, Nevada, was selected to undertake the extensive rehabilitation. Johnson Architecture, of Fresno, conducted the architectural research to assure authenticity of all work performed at the station. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <1ebf5ef1ebe274.1ebe2741ebf5ef_@_optonline.net> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:52:51 -0500 From: jdent1_@_optonline.net Subject: (rshsdepot) CNE Spring Tour For those interested in the CNE Spring Tour here is a repost of the info. Please don't email me about this, as I am only a possible participant, certainly NOT one of the organizers... Jim Dent Oakland, NJ From Bernie Rudberg... Hello All - This is to advise one and all that the 2005 segment of the annual bus tours along various portions of the former Central New England Railway is ready to accept reservations. We are pleased to announce that these tours will now and in the future be co-sponsored by the Maybrook Railroad Historical Society. This year's tour will be run on Sunday, April 10th (rain or shine). We will again depart from the Union Station parking lot in Canaan, CT at 9:00am with an additional pickup of passengers in Millerton, NY at approximately 9:30am from the designated parking area along Century Boulevard. Century Boulevard was the former CNE yard area for Millerton and is located one block north of Main St/Route 44 between Dutchess and Maple Avenues. Routing for this year's tour will essentially follow the route of the former Rhinebeck and Connecticut RR which was taken over by the Hartford and Connecticut Western RR in 1882. This was an important expansion for the H&CW as it brought the line to the banks of the Hudson River at Rhinecliff, NY. This primarily allowed for much needed coal received from barges off the Delaware & Hudson Canal to be brought to the various mills of Southern New England. The line to Rhinecliff remained in high usage until the opening of the Poughkeepsie Bridge and all of it's western connections some eight years later. As usual, everybody will get a copy of the 2005 CNE Tour guide book. Our routing for CNE 2005 will be to State Line, Mt. Riga, Boston Corners, Copake and Ancram. At Ancram, we will divert to Ancramdale which was on the line of the former Poughkeepsie and Eastern Railway and follow it down to Pine Plains where we will again have lunch at last year's spot which was Lia's Mountain View Restaurant. After lunch, we will proceed north to Silvernails where we will again pick up the route of the former R&C Railroad and continue our ride west via Mt. Ross, Jackson Corners, Elizaville, Cokertown, Red Hook, Rhinebeck and Rhinecliff. At this point in time, we expect to be making stops (some short and some fairly long) at State Line, Boston Corners, Copake, Hallsteads area of Ancramdale, Pine Plains, Silvernails, Elizaville, Red Hook and Rhinecliff. Due to the narrow roads and lack of suitable parking in much of the general area of our tour, some locations can only be shown from the bus windows. At the end of the tour in Rhinecliff, our buses will run express back to Millerton and Canaan. The cost of this year's tour will again be $45.00 per person and payment should be made out to "MRHS-CNE 2005" or Maybrook RR Historical Society - CNE 2005 Send it to: CNE 2005 -JOE MATO 62 WOOD ROAD REDDING, CT. 06896 As we did last year, we have two buses with 55 seats each. Last year we sold all 110 seats and had a waiting list so don't wait too long to send in your reservation. Please note that any request for refunds must be received thirty (30) or more days in advance of the tour date or, if less time is involved, it is up to the cancelling party to find a replacement party in order to receive a refund. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000e01c5202e$382c9f00$6501a8c0_@_ibm80gaptiva> References: <1ebf5ef1ebe274.1ebe2741ebf5ef_@_optonline.net> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:18:52 -0500 From: "Bernie Rudberg" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) CNE Spring Tour At last count there were only 12 seats left available for the CNE spring Tour 2005. Don't wait too long. Bernie Rudberg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <017e01c52031$0e12b300$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:39:10 -0500 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Richmond, VA From Progressive Railroading. Bernie Wagenblast Transportation Communications Newsletter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FTA continues to fund facelift for historic Virginia station The Federal Transit Administration (FTA) recently awarded a $1.5 million grant to the city of Richmond, Va., to continue restoring the century-old Main Street Station. The grant will help fund platform and parking lot improvements, a ticket office expansion and bus terminal work. The city also will restore the station's train shed - the last of its kind in the country and a national historic landmark, according to a prepared statement. Completed in December 2003, the first phase of the restoration included rehabilitating the main station building, and constructing a platform and parking facility. After all renovations are complete, the station will become a multi-modal facility, integrating rail service with trolley, bus, airport shuttle, taxi and limousine services. So far, FTA has provided $42 million for the project. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1099 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <200503041101.j24B1KCi047997_@_net.bluemoon.net> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 06:00:58 -0500 From: "Leetta Taylor" Subject: (rshsdepot) North Pemberton RR Station NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser: http://www.Railfan.net/lists/listthumb.cgi?rshsdepot-03-04-05 nprrstation.jpg (image/jpeg, 1031x791 447075 bytes) Came across this yesterday and thought I would share. We are still fighting with the Super Wawa to expand the Station. I’ll keep you posted. Lee Taylor: Pemberton Township Historic Trust - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/2005 ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1100 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <91960A0423CBFFA8FFB75F64_@_rdu26-75-012.nc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 11:15:54 -0500 From: "Mark A. Thomas" Subject: (rshsdepot) [MEXLIST] Estaciones site updated with new photos (fwd) Forwarded from Mexlist (Mexican Railroads). The rrshs.org website does have a link to this page, but it keeps growing in the number of stations it covers. Some nice images. The station in Tecate he mentions is in the shadow of a brewery, just like the old Mexicano station in Orizaba, Verecruz (not shown here yet) is next to the Moctezuma Brewery. - --Mark Thomas - ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:50 AM -0600 From: "Lowell G. McManus" To: MEXLIST Subject: [MEXLIST] Estaciones site updated with new photos Dear Listeros: Thanks to our friends Marco Polo Perez Loredo, Miguel Angel Perez and Emmanuel De La Vega Gonzalez, I've updated the page on depots. This time with photos of La Union, Tecate, Garcia, Ozumba, San Marcos and Zavaleta. Link: www.mexlist.com/estaciones Regards/Saludos Roberto Ruelas-Gomez Leon, Guanajuato. ... MEXLIST POSTS MUST RELATE TO THE MEXICAN RAILWAYS Post to MEXLIST: mexlist_@_yahoogroups.com Visit the MEXLIST Web Site: www.mexlist.com ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <422A185D.6040401_@_comcast.net> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:36:45 -0500 From: Ivan Berger Subject: (rshsdepot) New Resource The NY Public Library has just put 275000 images on line: http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/index.cfm Enter "Railroad station" in the search window and you'll find pages and pages of stuff. Google's Image collection has about 5,000 as well. - -Ivan Berger ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1101 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003e01c5227c$df8a5080$ea2ff7a5_@_paul> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 13:46:54 -0500 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bridgeport Mechanics & Farmers Bank to become a GCT? See this article on converting a bank to a hub station in Bridgeport, and how it will somehow look like Grand Central Terminal, and comment (sorry if almost everything we do or see is political, that is the way of life) Anyway, what do you think: http://www.connpost.com/business/ci_2596601 Paul ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1102 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00f401c524c3$b0460a50$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:18:54 -0500 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Union Station, Chicago, IL From today's Chicago Tribune. Bernie Wagenblast Transportation Communications Newsletter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Union Station proposal may be back on track By THOMAS A. CORFMAN Lincoln Property Co. is talking to potential tenants about a long-range proposal for a twin-tower office development on top of Union Station, a possible sign that the Dallas real estate firm will be Amtrak`s choice as the new developer of the historic structure. The selection of a developer has renewed urgency for cash-strapped Amtrak, after the Bush administration threatened last month to push the national passenger railroad into bankruptcy in order to force a restructuring. Amtrak is looking for a new developer after a 2002 deal with Prime Group Realty Trust fell apart. A railroad spokesman declined to comment. A final decision has not been made, and Amtrak could still turn to one of the Chicago-based finalists: residential firm Draper & Kramer Inc. or Jones Lang LaSalle Inc., which has a mixed-use proposal with about 500,000 square feet of office space, similar to a plan city officials have already approved. But sources said Lincoln is proposing two towers of roughly 20 stories each on top of the station, which was designed by architect Daniel Burnham with upward expansion in mind. The towers, each with about 600,000 square feet of space, would be located along the north and south sides of the station, which occupies the block bounded by Jackson Boulevard and Canal, Clinton and Adams Streets. Construction would not start until a tenant agreed to lease about half of a tower, with completion by 2009 at the earliest. The station`s existing upper floors would be redeveloped into rental apartments, sources said. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002f01c524d9$47d6f4a0$3318f7a5_@_paul> References: <00f401c524c3$b0460a50$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:53:26 -0500 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Union Station, Chicago, IL do I denote politics? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernie Wagenblast" To: "Rail Depot List" Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: (rshsdepot) Union Station, Chicago, IL : From today's Chicago Tribune. : : Bernie Wagenblast : Transportation Communications Newsletter : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications : : ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ : : Union Station proposal may be back on track : : : : By THOMAS A. CORFMAN : : Lincoln Property Co. is talking to potential tenants about a long-range : proposal for a twin-tower office development on top of Union Station, a : possible sign that the Dallas real estate firm will be Amtrak`s choice as : the new developer of the historic structure. : : The selection of a developer has renewed urgency for cash-strapped Amtrak, : after the Bush administration threatened last month to push the national : passenger railroad into bankruptcy in order to force a restructuring. : : Amtrak is looking for a new developer after a 2002 deal with Prime Group : Realty Trust fell apart. A railroad spokesman declined to comment. : : A final decision has not been made, and Amtrak could still turn to one of : the Chicago-based finalists: residential firm Draper & Kramer Inc. or Jones : Lang LaSalle Inc., which has a mixed-use proposal with about 500,000 square : feet of office space, similar to a plan city officials have already : approved. : : But sources said Lincoln is proposing two towers of roughly 20 stories each : on top of the station, which was designed by architect Daniel Burnham with : upward expansion in mind. The towers, each with about 600,000 square feet of : space, would be located along the north and south sides of the station, : which occupies the block bounded by Jackson Boulevard and Canal, Clinton and : Adams Streets. : : Construction would not start until a tenant agreed to lease about half of a : tower, with completion by 2009 at the earliest. The station`s existing upper : floors would be redeveloped into rental apartments, sources said. : : ================================= : The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing : railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org : ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1103 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <387bf5d387bc0e.387bc0e387bf5d_@_optonline.net> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:45:45 -0500 From: jdent1_@_optonline.net Subject: (rshsdepot) CNE Tour From Bernie Rudberg Hello All - This is to advise one and all that the 2005 segment of the annual bus tours along various portions of the former Central New England Railway is almost completely booked. As of 3/8/05 we had 100 reservations which means there are only 10 seats left available. This year's tour will be run on Sunday, April 10th (rain or shine). We will again depart from the Union Station parking lot in Canaan, CT at 9:00am with an additional pickup of passengers in Millerton, NY at approximately 9:30am from the designated parking area along Century Boulevard. Century Boulevard was the former CNE yard area for Millerton and is located one block north of Main St/Route 44 between Dutchess and Maple Avenues. Routing for this year's tour will essentially follow the route of the former Rhinebeck and Connecticut RR which was taken over by the Hartford and Connecticut Western RR in 1882. We will cover the old line from Millerton New York west to Rhinecliff on the Hudson River. As usual, everybody will get a copy of the 2005 CNE Tour guide book (237 pages at last count). Our routing for CNE 2005 will be to State Line, Mt. Riga, Boston Corners, Copake and Ancram. At Ancram, we will divert to Ancramdale which was on the line of the former Poughkeepsie and Eastern Railway and follow it down to Pine Plains where we will again have lunch at last year's spot which was Lia's Mountain View Restaurant. After lunch, we will proceed north to Silvernails where we will again pick up the route of the former R&C Railroad and continue our ride west via Mt. Ross, Jackson Corners, Elizaville, Cokertown, Red Hook, Rhinebeck and Rhinecliff. At this point in time, we expect to be making stops (some short and some fairly long) at State Line, Boston Corners, Copake, Hallsteads area of Ancramdale, Pine Plains, Silvernails, Elizaville, Red Hook and Rhinecliff. Due to the narrow roads and lack of suitable parking in much of the general area of our tour, some locations can only be shown from the bus windows. At the end of the tour in Rhinecliff, our buses will run express back to Millerton and Canaan. The cost of this year's tour will again be $45.00 per person and payment should be made out to "MRHS-CNE 2005" or Maybrook RR Historical Society - CNE 2005 Send it to: CNE 2005 -JOE MATO 62 WOOD ROAD REDDING, CT. 06896 As we did last year, we have two buses with 55 seats each. Last year we sold all 110 seats and had a waiting list so don't wait too long to send in your reservation. Please note that any request for refunds must be received thirty (30) or more days in advance of the tour date or, if less time is involved, it is up to the cancelling party to find a replacement party in order to receive a refund. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1104 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003701c5275a$098bbd60$926c410c_@_normscnplohiaq> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:19:31 -0700 From: "Norm Metcalf" Subject: (rshsdepot) BN depots negs available I have now available Rail Negative List #51 (superceding RNL #43) which is ten pages long. Pages 4-10 list BN depots in OR, CA, MT, WY, CO, ND, SD, NE, KS & MN, with date shot and architectural details. These were taken with my Fujica G690BL press camera with coupled rangefinder for precise focus. The negs are 2.3 by 3.5 inches, black & white film. The list is available for free via e-mail. If you prefer a paper copy I'll print and mail one to you for $1.00 to Norm Metcalf, P.O. Box 1368, Boulder CO 80306-1368 USA. Norm ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1105 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001c01c527e7$2f58bb00$b98b4781_@_Customer> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:10:24 -0500 From: Don Mills Subject: (rshsdepot) Rail News-- Big Boy Move- Deaths at Rail Crossings Go Back UP. Iron Horse heading for new pasture Iron Horse Heading for New Pasture Last Haul for Big Boy The Giant Locomotive Will Be Moved Saturday to Lauritzen Gardens. Source: Omaha World - Herald Publication date: 2005-03-11 Big Boy won't be riding the rails to its resting spot atop a bluff. The steam locomotive -- one of the largest ever made -- will take its final trip Saturday hoisted up on dollies. Big Boy No. 4023's lofty place is being prepared in what will be the new Kenefick Park, named in honor of former Union Pacific Railroad President John C. Kenefick and his wife, Hani. Centennial No. 6900, one of the largest diesel locomotives, will be moved later to the park, which is under construction at Lauritzen Gardens, at First and Bancroft Streets. The two locomotives each will be moved on six hydraulic-drive dollies, operated by remote control at 3 miles per hour -- about walking speed. The locomotives will be placed on temporary track at the park until their permanent displays are completed and they can be winched into place. The locomotives have been stored behind the Durham Western Heritage Museum since being removed from the former Kenefick Park along Abbott Drive to make way for the Qwest Center Omaha. Saturday's trip -- from near Eighth and Pacific Streets down 10th Street and along Bancroft to the botanical center -- could take up to eight hours, said Dave Scribner of Scrib's House Moving. Streets will be closed only while the locomotive is passing through, and police will oversee the route. The locomotive's tender has been removed and will be towed by a truck. The company has moved other locomotives but hasn't used the hydraulic-drive dollies, Scribner said. "We have a lot of hills to climb and go up and down, and I thought this was the safest way to transport it," he said. Scribner said he expects to see 300 to 500 spectators along the route, knowing that "there are a lot of rail fans." Rain or snow could postpone the trip. "Cold won't bother me," Scribner said, "but moisture will. We have to take it up a real steep incline at the gardens." Publication date: 2005-03-11 - ---------- Deaths at Rail Crossings, After Decline, Go Back Up By WALT BOGDANICH Published: March 13, 2005 eaths at railroad grade crossings rose 11 percent last year, according to new federal figures, and the government failed to meet its 10-year goal of no more than 300 crossing deaths by 2004. Crossing deaths had been falling steadily in recent years. But last year, 369 people died at rail crossings, with three of the four major freight railroads reporting a rise in deaths, federal figures show. Norfolk Southern registered a 50 percent increase, the most of any major railroad, with 60 deaths. More people, 77, died at crossings owned by Union Pacific, the nation's largest railroad. In all, more than 3,000 accidents occurred at grade crossings last year - about one every three hours. Some rail-safety experts say the figures suggest that the railroads and the government are not doing enough to make grade crossings safer. "I find that disconcerting, because we had a history of slow but steady decline of grade crossing fatalities over the years," said George Gavalla, a former top safety official with the Federal Railroad Administration. "We worked hard to encourage railroads to invest in crossing safety programs, and looking at these statistics, I wonder if that level of investment was being maintained." Federal transportation officials declined to respond specifically to questions about the failure to achieve their 10-year goal. Tom White, a spokesman for the Association of American Railroads, a trade group for the large freight rail companies, said, "We very much regret the increase, and we wish it had not occurred." But the rail association and the Federal Railroad Administration said the rise in deaths needed to be viewed in the context of heavier rail traffic last year. Mr. White said the association was "committed to working with all of the authorities to bring those numbers down." One way to do that is through more driver education, he said. But Harvey Levine, a former vice president of the railroad association who is an advocate for rail crash victims, said railroads should examine their own conduct, pointing to sight obstructions that make it difficult to see approaching trains. Last summer, after The New York Times reported on grade crossing hazards, Union Pacific said it would improve the way it reported accidents, monitored warning signals at crossings and collected evidence from crossing accidents. Last Monday, the New York state attorney general, Eliot Spitzer, said another railroad, CSX, had agreed to pay a $1 million fine to settle state charges that it failed to report properly and fix promptly hundreds of warning-signal malfunctions at grade crossings across the state. Deaths at CSX crossings last year rose to 58 from 52. Gary Sease, a CSX spokesman, said his company would try to reduce deaths by cutting vegetation at crossings and closing more crossings, and with programs to educate drivers. - --Boundary_(ID_ULo6VNl8oCla3Fkh+nzyqQ) ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1106 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002901c528b8$137eae90$7a8b410c_@_normscnplohiaq> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:04:54 -0700 From: "Norm Metcalf" Subject: (rshsdepot) Rail Negative List #52 Now available is version #8 of Rail Negative List #52, 14 pages long. (This supercedes RNL #44.) RNL #52 has black & white negatives of locomotives, passenger cars, cabooses, freight cars, depots & stations (with architectural details listed) of the Cadillac and Lake City; California Western; Canadian National; Canadian Pacific; Cargill; Central California Traction Co; Central Iowa; Central Kansas Railway; CSX Transportation; Chicago & Northwestern; Chicago, Burlington & Quincy; Chicago Great Western; Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul & Pacific; Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific; Chrome Crankshaft; City of Colorado Springs, Department of Electric Generation; City of Prineville; Cleveland Electric Illuminating; Climax Molybdenum; Collins Pine; Colorado & Eastern (1980's version); Colorado & Southern; "Colorado & Western" (movie railroad); Colorado & Wyoming; Colorado Fuel & Iron; Colorado Midland; ConAgra; Conrail; Consolidated Rock; Continental Grain; Coors Biotech; Coors Brewing Co; Coos Bay Lumber; Copper Basin Railway and Corinth & Counce. Loco builders include EMD, GMD, GE, Baldwin, Alco and Davenport. These black & white negatives are 2.3 by 3.5 inches. They were shot using my Fujica G690BL press camera with coupled rangefinder for precision focus. They are supplied in individual archival envelopes. The list is free via e-mail. If you wish a paper copy send $1.00 ($2.00 outside the U.S. and Canada) to Norm Metcalf, P.O. Box 1368, Boulder CO 80306-1368 USA. Norm Metcalf, Boulder CO ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1107 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <022001c52962$51b66950$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:24:29 -0500 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Piermont, NY From today's Journal News. Bernie Wagenblast Transportation Communications Newsletter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Train station plan on track By SULAIMAN BEG THE JOURNAL NEWS (Original Publication: March 15, 2005) Resting on Bill Elson's living room table is a 2-foot model of a green building with ochre trim that, aside from being pleasing to the eye, serves as a testament to the riverfront community's past. Its 19th-century counterpart - a train station on Ash Street - is the focus of the 6-month-old Piermont Station Historical Society. The organization was created by the village board to come up with plans to restore and renovate the building, which has been closed since the 1960s. "We needed some visual stimulation as to what it would look like in the future," Elson said of the model, "because what it looks like now is depressing." Elson, a village resident for five years and a member of the society, built the model last year, and the society will display it next week at its first public meeting. Members will also update residents on plans for the train station's renovation and restoration, and seek new volunteers and donations. "As Piermont has evolved in the last 18 to 20 years, there are few symbols of its origins, apart from the buildings on Main Street, but this is a real visual symbol of the small town," Elson said. "Piermont was and the railroad was intrinsic to the development of this area." In November, the village board informally decided to forgo a controversial plan to move the train station and convert it into a visitors center and museum. The decision came after many residents criticized the proposed move. The property was the only link missing in the Erie Path - a 4.5-mile walking trail and linear park from Sparkill to Nyack that was created in 1975 from the abandoned railroad line, which was once the longest railroad in the United States. In December, the county and Piermont purchased the land for $165,000. The village borrowed $95,000 and the county's open-space fund contributed $70,000 toward the cost. The society - which had proposed the move because, among other things, it would provide better parking - is now trying to raise money to restore the 600-square-foot building. The estimated cost to replace the roof and restore the building's interior and exterior is $160,000. Karl Knoecklein, who has lived in the village for eight years and is a member of the society, said the group would focus first on raising $30,000 to repair the roof and replace its cupola, which burned down a few years ago. "We want to protect the building and show everyone that something is happening," he said. "It's remarkable how well it was built and with very little care, it has not rotted and fallen down." The board intends to restore the building to its original condition and use it as a historical museum, where memorabilia that the village has stored is displayed, Mayor Edward Traynor said. Knoecklein said the society was considering knocking down about a dozen trees to create parking at the site. He said that also would restore the site's original openness. http://www.piermontstation.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <25304-42372D96-2014_@_storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: rshsdepot-owner_@_lists.Railfan.net (RSHSDepot Digest)'s message of Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:34:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:46:46 -0500 From: prr_@_WEBTV.NET (George Tomczyk) Subject: (rshsdepot) Re: RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1107 Norm, Please e-mail RNL#52 Thanks, George T. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1108 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00e501c52a9f$99cf3f30$6400a8c0_@_CPQ29307256552> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:15:39 -0500 From: "JIMBEAR" Subject: (rshsdepot) Super Trains & Mega Stations Tonight and tomorrow the Discovery Science Channel is showing a program titled : Super Trains & Mega Stations with segments concerning the Amtrak Acela and Grand Central Terminal. BTW, they're apparently repeating the FDR secret platform myth. Here's the info and schedule : http://science.discovery.com/schedule/series.jsp?series=104546&gid=0&channel=SCI Jim. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <008e01c52ab2$62c96c00$4584410c_@_normscnplohiaq> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:30:08 -0700 From: "Norm Metcalf" Subject: (rshsdepot) Fw: Rail Negative List #53 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Metcalf" To: rshsdepot Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:16 PM Subject: Rail Negative List #53 > Currently available is Rail Negative List #53 with negs of DeBruce Grain, > Deer Creek Scenic's ex-DRGW depot at Heber City UT; DRGW locos, passenger > cars, Wilson McCarthy, caboose 01485, work equipment, depots & stations > (with architectural details); Denver & Salt Lake Denver depot (+ ex-DSL > depots listed under DRGW); Denver Fire Clay's 3-foot gauge Whitcomb; > Denver-Rock Island Railroad; "Denver, South Park & Pacific" 2-6-0 Porter > [actually ex-United Fruit]; Denver Union Terminal Railway depot; Diamond > International; El Paso & Southwestern depots; Elgin, Joliet & Eastern; > Electro-Motive Division of General Motors; Electro Motive Leasing division > of General Motors; Eureka Southern; Evans Products; Fort Worth & Denver > and Foster Farms Alco switchers. > These negs are 2.3 by 3.5 inches, taken with my Fujica G690BL press > camera with coupled rangefinder for precision focus from the 1970's to > date. They are shipped in individual archival-plastic envelopes. > The five-page list is available free via e-mail. If you prefer a paper > copy I'll print and mail one for $1.00 to Norm Metcalf, P.O. Box 1368, > Boulder CO 80306-1368 USA. > Norm ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1109 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <200503171036.j2HAaO020734_@_cobalt4.septa.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:36:24 -0500 From: ewallace_@_cobalt.septa.org Subject: (rshsdepot) Automated reply from ewallace_@_cobalt.septa.org Thank you for your email, I will be away from the office until 3/22/05. If you require immediate assistance please contact rmacey_@_septa.org Mr. Macey can also be reached at 215-580-8279. Thank you, Ed Wallace ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003101c52af1$80167ed0$96422118_@_D9F1GW41> References: <00e501c52a9f$99cf3f30$6400a8c0_@_CPQ29307256552> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:01:57 -0500 From: "Cliff Scholes" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Super Trains & Mega Stations Harvey: Am watching on the Science Channel a program called "Super Trains and Mega Stations". Will be replayed at 2 PM today, Thursday or 5 PM. Interesting. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "JIMBEAR" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:15 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) Super Trains & Mega Stations > Tonight and tomorrow the Discovery Science Channel is showing a program titled : > Super Trains & Mega Stations with segments concerning the Amtrak > Acela and Grand Central Terminal. BTW, they're apparently repeating > the FDR secret platform myth. Here's the info and schedule : > > http://science.discovery.com/schedule/series.jsp?series=104546&gid=0&channel=SCI > > Jim. > > ================================ > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1110 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3c8623f3c86d9c.3c86d9c3c8623f_@_optonline.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:43:56 -0500 From: jdent1_@_optonline.net Subject: (rshsdepot) Tamaqua, PA We visited this depot during the Wilkes-Barre RSHS convention Couple will offer dining at Tamaqua's historic train station Restaurant interior looks like eatery that opened there in 1874. By Chris Parker, The Morning Call -- March 15, 2005 http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-b3_1stationmar15,0,1658046.story?coll=all-newslocal-hed As a child, restaurateur Sheryl Beltz played around the dilapidated shell of an 1874 train station near Tamaqua's main intersection. Now Beltz and her husband, William, plan to open an upscale restaurant in the newly restored station. The Beltzes, of Barnesville, who own Brookside Restaurant and Pub near Mahanoy City, on Monday joined with officials of Save Our Station, the volunteer group that raised money to restore the building, to announce the venture. The Restaurant at the Station will complete the tenant roster. The station, at 18 N. Railroad St., which holds a gift shop, a gallery and a quality chocolate shop, will open June 1, Save Our Station President Kenneth Smulligan said. ''Finally, after 14 years,'' Smulligan said. ''It's been a long road.'' Sheryl Beltz said she and her husband are aiming for a four-star establishment, but the restaurant will have broad appeal. The Beltzes have applied for a liquor license, and must get borough approval to transfer the license from another community. Beltz said they plan to hire 20 people and open the 50-seat restaurant in May. When the subject of a signature dish was raised, the couple said their Brookside restaurant is known for its bread pudding. Save Our Station Treasurer Micah Gursky said a station restaurant has been a ''long-term goal'' for the group. Gursky said that before approaching the Beltzes, the organization ''sent out scouts undercover'' to check out the couple's other eatery. The Beltzes plan to start by offering dinner only, then expand their hours and menu. They also plan to install a new kitchen. The Restaurant at the Station will occupy the same space as the 1874 eatery of the same name. The restaurant was restored to historical accuracy by using a photograph for reference. The former Gentlemen's Waiting Room will serve as the dining room. The Beltzes also plan to have cafe tables in the front of the station in warm weather. Save Our Station worked for 14 years to restore the Tamaqua 1874 Philadelphia and Reading Passenger Depot from a burned-out shell with broken windows and a resident flock of pigeons to its original elegance. The group solicited government grants, sold bricks and hot dogs, and solicited donations for the $1.5 million project. It also borrowed $150,000 from the borough. Smulligan has said rent from merchants who lease space in the building will help repay that loan. The station was built in 1874, replacing the station that burned down in 1873. The first station was along Broad Street, at the spot now occupied by the Reading and Northern Railroad office. In 1981, arson damaged the station, but its interior brick walls saved it from destruction. It was around that time Conrail sold the station and surrounding buildings to the borough, which sold the entire piece to an Allentown-area developer in 1985. The developer leveled some buildings and erected the Meridian Bank building on Broad Street, intending to turn the station into a mini-mall. He scrapped the plan when he learned it would be too costly. The station then passed through several developers, who made no improvements but allowed Save Our Station to restore the inside. Save Our Station formed as a nonprofit group in 1991 and bought the station for $25,000, using state historical preservation grants and donations. chris.parker_@_mcall.com 610-379-3224 ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1111 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <423E24F0.300_@_sjcook.com> References: <200503191034.j2JAY0q9090210_@_net.bluemoon.net> In-Reply-To: <200503191034.j2JAY0q9090210_@_net.bluemoon.net> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:35:44 -0600 From: Sam Cook Subject: (rshsdepot) M&StL Depot - Wayland, IA Sorry to inform everyone, but this depot is no more as of Saturday, 19 March 2005. See pictures at http://sjcook.com/trains/msl/depots/IAwayland/index.htm It had been out-of-service since earyl 1970's. Another piece of history vanishes. Sam Cook, Milan, MO ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1112 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <2f1c0a42f1ac64.2f1ac642f1c0a4_@_optonline.net> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:34:23 -0500 From: jdent1_@_optonline.net Subject: (rshsdepot) Katy, TX From the Katy Times... Depot finds new home By Jeremy Moreno Times Staff Writer After being situated near Katy City Park for more than two decades, the Missouri-Kansas-Texas railroad Depot was transported to its natural habitat Thursday morning. The depot, hoisted on wheels and pulled by a truck, traveled south on Ave D, east on Second Street, south on Ave A and now stands on city-owned land north of the railroad on First Street between Avenues A and B. David Frishman, chairman of the Katy Heritage Society Depot Committee, said he was impressed with the cooperation used to complete the project. "It is historic day; we saved it twice. We all pulled together to make this work, the city officials, utility companies, mayor, city administrator, and Barney our mover." Frishman said. The depot was acquired in the late 1970s by Mayor Dan Cox and Katy residents Hal and Lynn Cardiff assisted the cause to keep the building in the city. For $25, the city bought the depot from the Missouri-Kansas-Texas railroad company to prevent its destruction and removal from Katy. The city was forced to move the building from MKT's property, the original site just south of the railroad on Highway 90 and Ave A. House mover Barney Pfeffer, behind the wheel in 1979 during the depot's first transition, pulled the reigns again to transfer the depot to its new site. Pfeffer said there were no complications during the relocation and the depot's second trip was easier than the first. The depot is 20 feet wide and 70 feet long and about 25 feet high. Mayor Doyle Callender initiated the effort to return the depot to the railroad and said the project will restore more of Katy's heritage. "It's part of our roots and history. It's where it needs to be. It brings revitalization to downtown and hopefully tourists," Callender said. In the late 1970s, Katy residents mounted a movement to keep the depot near the railroad after the city threatened to move it to sites away from the tracks. "The Heritage Society appreciates the city of Katy. Mayor Doyle Callender has been the main instigator. They've been very helpful and communicable, said Marilyn Frishman, member of the KHS depot committee. There are no concrete plans for the depot's use, but Frishman and the KHS Depot Committee are exploring alternatives. City officials have discussed using the depot as an informational center or a museum commemorating Katy's history as a rail hub. According to Frishman, there is a freight room with wooden walls covered with charcoal drawings and handwritten notes that date back to the 1890s. Frishman said the committee is discussing ways to preserve these relics for the viewing pleasure of public, but will act cautiously to avoid their ruin. Mariyln Frishman said the depot's chimney was removed to facilitate its transfer through phone lines. She added that the city may have to break up the tracks situated near the Caboose before they transfer them. The project cost the city $12,000 on city-owned land purchased for $102,000. City officials said the MKT Caboose that had accompanied the Depot should be transported to the same site as early as next week. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2f1c0a42f1ac64.2f1ac642f1c0a4_@_optonline.net> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:39:55 -0500 From: michael.p.finzel_@_census.gov Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Katy, TX Its good that it made it back to (or near) its original location but it makes me mad that the railroad doesn't run east into the city anymore thanks to the freeway. Houston is the 4th largest city in the country and they have no commuter rail service. They must like gridlock. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <423FB0F3.206_@_optonline.net> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:45:23 -0500 From: Jim Dent Subject: (rshsdepot) Great Railroad Stations - Cumberland, MD A new "Great Railroad Station" article, by John Dahl, about the Western Maryland Railroad depot in Cumberland, MD has been added to the list website. See: http://www.trainweb.org/rshs/great_railroad_stations.htm ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1113 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <4243818E.8030308_@_optonline.net> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:12:14 -0500 From: Jim Dent Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor Michigan station reopening grand opening NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser: http://www.Railfan.net/lists/listthumb.cgi?rshsdepot-03-24-05 PA060186.jpg (image/jpeg, 3264x2448 1636120 bytes) Subject: Bangor Michigan station reopening grand opening Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:56:30 -0500 From: Nathan Ratzlaff I am writing to notify you of the grand reopeining that will occur for the Bangor Michigan Station on May 6, 2005. All are welcome to attend, I am attaching a picture of the station under renovation, sorry I don't have one with it completed. Thanks, Nathan ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001d01c53103$a6eadd40$102ff7a5_@_paul> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:26:55 -0500 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor, New York (expanded) I figured I was so detailed about areas on the other side of the world, I should be the same with US, like Iowa, Saskatchewan.. And of course since I live in the state, Bangor, NY Remember the last I had the North Bangor depot exists as an auto parts business but no picture is know as yet..I haven't driven there yet. Franklin County. How many presidents is that so far with the Bangor counties?, I remember a Polk. Monroe, as has been noted is finely preserved. The Rutland Railroad depot of Monroe (1865) here it is with its two octagonal towers: http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/702.jpg The freight depot Rutland, Monroe: http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/784.jpg Here is the New York Central's Monroe Junction depot: http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/497.jpg Moira is west of Bangor on the Rutland, the depot: http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/508.jpg For more stations in Franklin County, see the Existing Railroad Depots of New York page: http://ny.existingstations.com/ Massena is northwest of North Bangor, on the Grand Trunk RR. Massena station: http://www.ogdensburg.info/webphotos/rrstation.jpg The GT trestle near Massena under construction, nice photo: http://www.ogdensburg.info/webphotos/msrailbrdge.jpg I think New York Central also had rights on this line. Some NYC lines head north off this Grand Trunk line that heads northeast up the Lake Erie coast Massena Springs New York Central depot: http://www.ogdensburg.info/webphotos/mspringsnycsttn.jpg These old photos are undated from a big page about Massena. St. Lawrence County is also involved here Gouveneur is south from Massena, south from Norwood on the NY Central, here the old depot, sort of Mission style: http://ogdensburg.info/webphotos/guvrrsta.jpg now: http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/460.jpg Here is a map of the Ogdensburg sub-division of the Rutland Railroad: http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/map.htm Note Bangor, Malone, Malone Jct. Here is existing stations on this map: http://ny.existingstations.com/maps/rutog.html Ogdensburg is the to the west on Lake Erie on this Rutland line through North Bangor. The Rome, Watertown and Ogdensburg RR, 1887: (long link address): http://www.davidrumsey.com/BrowserInsight/BrowserInsight;jsessionid=A00ACFBBF7EA3A559F51C6372745496B?cmd=image-retrieve&cid=1&image= nrrv%3C%29%29qqq%28bgpobtskuc%7F%28eik%29tskuc%7F%29Uo%7Cc5%29B66%3F7%2966%3F7575%3E%28lva&resolution=3&username=public Or go here and click on image a couple times: http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps910138-24516.html For one with the schedule for the (Syracuse-Oswego) Phoenix Line, go here and click on picture: http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps910140-24519.html or cut and paste the following for the big image: http://www.davidrumsey.com/BrowserInsight/BrowserInsight;jsessionid=81DDF34F54FD146813648F02B801270D?cmd=image-retrieve&cid=1&image= eyy%7D7%22%22zzz%23il%7Bdi%7Fx%60%7Eht%23nb%60%22%7Fx%60%7Eht%22%5Edwh9%22I%3D%3D4%3C%22%3D%3D4%3C9%3C9%3D%23g%7Dj&resolution=4&user name=public The R,W&O was leased to the New York Central and Hudson River RR in 1891 http://us.st3.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/scripophily_1807_292732953 http://www.clintonhollins.com/img/65600.jpg RW&O Bridge above Rochester: http://www.vintageviews.org/vv-tl/Photos/pages/rr3.html This page includes a map of the Portland & Ogdensburg RR, 1879: http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps900032-24512.html Wanakena is in southern St Lawrence County, here is the NYC depot: http://ogdensburg.info/webphotos/clwanakenarr.jpg rail bridge at Wanakena: http://ogdensburg.info/webphotos/clwanrrbridge.jpg A small railroad east of Ogdensburg, the Norwood & St. Lawrence RR., 18.26 miles. Between Norwood and Waddington. Opened 1902. Built to serve paper mills. Almost abandoned in early 1970s, to the Ogdensburg Port Authority in 1975. Here is a Norwood & St. Lawrence locomotive #210 (American Locomotive, Paterson, NJ 1923) with snow at Steamtown: http://www.nps.gov/stea/graphics/LBR210.jpg Here is a picture of James Alva Henry, Rutland Railroad Crossing guard at Main Street in Norwood in front of the Flag House: http://russnelson.com/RWnO/www.northnet.org/norwood/images/crossing%20guard.jpg The second Norwood depot: http://russnelson.com/RWnO/www.northnet.org/norwood/images/norwooddepot.jpg The 1914 Potsdam, N.Y. Central depot is now a restaurant: http://russnelson.com/RWnO/www.northnet.org/norwood/images/potsdamdepot.jpg http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/537.jpg THE MALONE & ST. LAWRENCE - 1892 - was built from Malone where it connected with the St. Lawrence & Adirondack and extended to Valleyfield, Quebec The New York and Ottawa RR ("the old kick and push") crossed the Rutland at Moira. A history of the NY&O and a picture of a steam engine in front of Tupper Lake station is here: http://www.railshops.net/ottawadivision/NYOttawa.html The Ottawa & New York RR history and a 1957 picture of Cornwall station in the snow is here: http://www.railshops.net/ottawadivision/OttawaNY.html The Northern New York RR history and the neat Dickinson Center depot 1936: http://www.railshops.net/ottawadivision/NorthernNY.html Dickinson Center is south of Norwood, north of St. Regis Falls The Northern NY was at first the Northern Adirondack RR. Santa Clara, New York is south of St. Regis Falls. Here is the Santa Clara station which is now a church and history of Northern Adirondack: http://www.railshops.net/ottawadivision/NorthernAdirondack.html History from 1913 of these north south lines through this northerly New York area on the shores of Lake Erie: http://www.railshops.net/ottawadivision/1913toPresent.html Watertown, N.Y. is south of the area in question, in a way the gateway to this area of northern NY. Watertown NY large New York Central depot: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/town/watertown/images/NYCRRDepot.jpg I love this kind of large size small station...the red brick, this is classic railroad architecture isn't it? And the magnificent columned and arched interior: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/town/watertown/images/wtn54Fixed.jpg All that is left is the freight station in Watertown, NY: http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/916.jpg The Carthage, Watertown & Sackets Harbor RR The CW&SH depot in Sackets Harbor (1888): http://russnelson.com/CWnSH/traindepot.jpg The freight depot: http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/936.jpg The passenger depot: (1910): http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/547.jpg Carthage, NY New York Central freight depot: http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/420.jpg Carthage NY NYC passenger depot is in sad shape: http://ny.existingstations.com/archive/419.jpg While looking for a Watertown, New York depot I came across this nice Watertown, Wisconsin (C,M&St.L) depot, 1910: http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/WatertownDepot.jpg 1907: http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/Depot5.jpg http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/Depot8.jpg The Watertown, Wisc. C&NW depot: 1908: http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/Depot4.jpg 1911: http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/Depot1.jpg http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/Depot3.jpg The Milwaukee Electric Railway and Light Company was the interurban Watertown-Milwaukee, 1908-1940 The first car in 1908 in Watertown: http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/Interurban3.jpg 1908 view of Main Street, Watertown, Wisc. with a nice yellow interurban car: http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/Interurban6.jpg 1910: http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/Interurban2.jpg http://donross.railspot.com/dr1001/kj06.jpg This is the Milwaukee Electric Railway and Light car leaving Watertown: http://206.103.49.193/mke/jpg/tmerl22.jpg Here is a Milwaukee Western Electric RR varnish at Beaver Dam, Wisc., 1908: http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/Interurban5.jpg 1940 at Watertown terminal: http://www.watertownhistory.org/Images/Interurban_01_1940.jpg Watertown is halfway between Madison and Milwaukee, here is the system map (includes bus routes) for Milwaukee Electric: http://206.103.49.193/mke/jpg/mke410.jpg http://206.103.49.193/mke/jpg/mkemap.jpg http://206.103.49.193/mke/jpg/mke409.jpg http://206.103.49.193/mke/jpg/mke408.jpg Watertown, Mass. depot, 1890s with quite a tower: http://www.watertownlib.org/Photos/images/fig4142.jpg First horse car (double deck) between Watertown and Boston: http://www.watertownlib.org/Photos/images/fig168.jpg Watertown Square streetcar station, an even better tower, how many sides on this clock turret? 1900: http://www.watertownlib.org/Photos/images/fig940.jpg Later shot at this Watertown (MA) Square: http://www.watertownlib.org/Photos/images/fig1731.jpg Watertown and Waterbury Railroad (Connecticut), Watertown, CT station, late 1800s: http://www.watertown-ct.org/images/Wtn_Station.jpg The Engine House, 1926: http://www.watertown-ct.org/images/Engine%20House.jpg NH engine on this New Haven RR branch line: http://www.watertown-ct.org/images/Wtn_Branch.jpg Here are trolleys in adjacent Oakville, Conn in this nice tinted picture.: http://www.watertown-ct.org/images/oakville_trolley.jpg Watertown, South Dakota depot in 1977 (C&NW): http://www.dicklightle.com/Pictures/11372.jpg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1114 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <200503251035.j2PAZB510787_@_cobalt4.septa.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:35:11 -0500 From: ewallace_@_cobalt.septa.org Subject: (rshsdepot) Automated reply from ewallace_@_cobalt.septa.org Thank you for your email, I will be away from the office until 3/22/05. If you require immediate assistance please contact rmacey_@_septa.org Mr. Macey can also be reached at 215-580-8279. Thank you, Ed Wallace ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <43b36db43afbfc.43afbfc43b36db_@_optonline.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:01:44 -0500 From: jdent1_@_optonline.net Subject: (rshsdepot) Toccoa, GA Demolition Begins on Toccoa Train Depot Heather Jensen NewsChannel 32 Tuesday=2C March 22=2C 2005 = The Toccoa train depot has seen better days=2E The dilapidated structure is falling apart inside and out=3B but that=27s= about to change=2E Talk of renovating the old depot started in the 1980=27s and again in the= 90=27s=2C but budget problems kept the project from moving ahead=2E =93It=27s been a long process=2C=94 says Toccoa Downtown Development Dire= ctor Connie Tabor=2E =93After much discussion between Norfolk Southern R= ailway and the city of Toccoa=2C we came to an agreement that they accept= ed=2C=94 she says=2E With help from the Department of Transportation=2C the city is spending m= ore than =24500=2C000 to make the depot new again=2E =93We were founded on the railroad=2C and it=27s an exciting time to fina= lly see our hard work pay off and the depot renovations project begin=2C=94= says Tabor=2E But the project is no small undertaking=2E The demolition will gut the o= ld depot=2C leaving only the exterior walls=2E =93The major thing will be the roof=2C having to demo the roof and recons= truct it with the six-foot overhangs=2C=94 says Phillip Holland=2C Bowen = =26 Watson Construction Superintendent=2E = =93I got two good carpenters on the crew=2C so it will go smoothly=2C=94 = he adds=2E Over the next six months=2C the depot will see a complete renovation incl= uding a new roof=2C new siding=2C and a new freight room=2E But once it=27= s complete=2C city leaders hope it will be something everyone wants to se= e=2E =93The Historical Society will be housed in the depot=2C as well as the C= hamber of Commerce and the local Welcome Center=2C=94 Tabor says=2E = =93So=2C visitors will naturally be drawn to the depot for information=2C= for the museum=2C and for the feel of the new depot=2C=94 she adds=2E Drawing the local community and visitors to the downtown area will insure= that better days are coming to the depot=2E A groundbreaking ceremony for the train depot is scheduled for Thursday a= t 4PM=2E ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00e401c531bc$2b2dc640$5066410c_@_normscnplohiaq> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:27:40 -0700 From: "Norm Metcalf" Subject: (rshsdepot) Rail Negative List #54 now available Now available is Rail Negative List #54, a 12-page list of black & white negatives. Listed with architectural details are depots & stations of the Garden City Western; Great Northern in MN, ND, SD, MT & CA; Great Western Railway; Harbor Belt Line; Illinois Central (IA & SD); Longview, Portland & Northern; Magma Arizona; Midland Continental; Minneapolis & St. Louis; Missouri-Kansas-Texas; Missouri Pacific; Texas & Pacific and Texas-New Mexico. The negs are 2.3 by 3.5 inches. I shot them with my Fujica G690BL press camera with coupled rangefinder for precision focus. They are shipped in individual archival-plastic envelopes. The list is available free via e-mail. If you prefer a printed copy via U.S. mail send $1.00 to Norm Metcalf, P.O. Box 1368, Boulder CO 80306-1368 USA. Norm ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1115 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:43:26 -0500 (EST) From: "J. Henry Priebe Jr." Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Tucson, AZ NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser: http://www.Railfan.net/lists/listthumb.cgi?rshsdepot-03-27-05 IMG_0626.jpg (application/octet-stream, 1024x768 107238 bytes) Here's a photo of the Tuscon station taken March 19, 2005 by gwynjthomas_@_yahoo.co.uk, username "welsh" in the Railfan.net Forum, used with permission. It looks in very good shape, apparently they have done a lot with the property since the project was announced in February of 2003. Henry J. Henry Priebe Jr. Blue Moon Internet Corp Network Administrator www.bluemoon.net Internet Access & Web Hosting www.railfan.net Railfan Network Services On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 Bernie Wagenblast shared: > City may get $4M for depot project > > Citizen Staff Report > Feb. 14, 2003 > > Tucson may get $4 million in federal funding this year for the Downtown > Intermodal Center, being developed at the site of the old train depot off > Toole Avenue. > The funding would come from a $397 billion spending bill being advanced by > Republican congressional leaders. > > The downtown center is at the site of the Southern Pacific railroad station. > > The restoration project is planned to provide a new home for Amtrak, for > shuttle and trolley services, a transportation museum, restaurants, shops > and office space. > More than $24.5 million would come to the state for transportation-related > projects, Rep. Ed Pastor, D-Ariz., a member of the House Appropriations > Committee, said yesterday. That would include $12 million for a 20-mile > Phoenix-area light-rail system. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1116 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <005d01c534ca$8f2916c0$d41ef7a5_@_paul> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:48:19 -0500 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bull's Head Ok, here is a historical mystery (at least to me) In an amazing 1856 New York Times article on ferries (amazing because almost every ferry route is included. This just happens to be the year when the ferry to Cavalry Cemetery was running, and it only ran two years, all the routes were leased, many had just begun, even the Weehawken to 42nd Street was proposed.....) And the latter is why I write this historical mystery...They are discussing the reason for the need for a Weehawken-West 42nd Street ferry route. "...There is another ferry between the foot of Spring street and Fort Lee, the lease of which is held by J. H. Youmans... Still another is projected between Weehawken and Forty-second street, New-York, more especially for the convenience of conveying cattle across to Bull's Head..." [NY Times April 23, 1856] They then go on to discuss the recent 1854 lease of a Chambers Street to Pavonia, Jersey City ferry franchise....... Where was Bull's Head? Manhattan or New Jersey? Thanks, Paul ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00bd01c534da$082e63e0$d41ef7a5_@_paul> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:39:06 -0500 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bull's Head Revisited 2/7/1854 New-York Cattle Market FOR REEVES at the WASHINGTON DROVE YARDS, corner of Fourth-avenue and Forty-fourth-street, and at CHAMBERLAIN'S Hudson River Bull's Head, foot of Robinson-street. For Cows and Calves, Sheep and Lambs, (and also for Beeves) at BROWNING'S in Sixth st., near Third avenue, and also at O'BRIEN'S Central Bull's Head, (for Cows, Calves and Beeves only) No. 9 Sixth-st.... Later they call it the Hudson River Bull's Head The Harlem Railroad brought in most of the sheep and lambs, but the Erie Railroad brought in the most beef, just ahead of the Hudson River RR So a Bull's Head was (is?) a term for the cattle and in Manhattan this was on the Hudson...but there is no Robinson Street in Manhattan now....ah, Robinson Street was renamed Park Place in the late 1800's. wow, that's down near City Hall.. as a matter of fact it is or was under the World Trade Center, now that is pretty interesting huh? ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1117 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001f01c53528$b5f5b570$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:02:21 -0500 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Tuckahoe & Pelham, NY From today's Journal News. Bernie Wagenblast Transportation Communications Newslettter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transport-communications/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Metro-North to close two station ticket offices next month By CAREN HALBFINGER THE JOURNAL NEWS (Original Publication: March 30, 2005) Cindy Ramkissoon was just one in a loyal throng of commuters yesterday who were devastated to learn that Tom Tinen will no longer be selling their Metro-North Railroad tickets and greeting them with his bright-and-early banter after April 8. Although he's been with the railroad for 37 years, Tinen, the Tuckahoe station agent, isn't retiring. After raising fares and the cost of parking earlier this month, Metro-North has decided to delete the personal touch from its Tuckahoe and Pelham stations to save some money. No one will lose a job. But by reducing its ticket agent hires by two, the railroad expects to save $142,000 a year from a $944 million annual operating budget. "That's terrible,'' said Ramkissoon, 30, an insurance broker in Tuckahoe who lives in the Bronx and bought her monthly ticket for April yesterday. "I'll have to go to Crestwood to get my ticket, because it has a New York City bus pass on it, and I can't get it from the machines." "This just adds to the inconvenience," said George Dennison, 79, of Eastchester. As he headed for his 6:59 a.m. train, Dennison said he had already called the railroad to register his displeasure with its decision. "I like to buy my ticket from him personally." The two stations were chosen for ticket-booth closings because both are scheduled to be net-leased, railroad spokeswoman Marjorie Anders said. That means the buildings will be taken over by tenants who will be responsible for upkeep and renovations. Besides which, in January, Tinen sold about 980 tickets a month, while more than 7,000 tickets were sold through machines at the station. In Pelham, the agent sold 3,700 tickets that month, while machines spat out 11,500. Tinen hasn't decided which station he'd like to work at next. But the way he comes out to the station house to greet customers, handing one his just-read paper every day and having tickets ready for others before they ask, it's clear the Yonkers resident has developed close ties to this community. Tinen said tickets sales dropped off about 10 months ago when the railroad closed the overpass for rehabilitation, making it less convenient to reach him. The overpass reopened earlier this month, though work continues behind plastic sheeting. "I'll miss the people,'' Tinen said. "Most of them, I only see once a month. I'll miss the little town of Tuckahoe.'' Over at the Pelham station, Angela North was also sorry to start her day by learning that Walter Bitter, a 27-year railroad employee who has been the station agent for a decade, would be leaving. "That's no good,'' North, an insurance underwriter, said with a frown at about 6:15 a.m. as she wrote a check for $326 to pay for two monthly tickets for her husband and son. "I can't believe that. He knows me, so he will take a check. At Grand Central, they won't take it. I always buy my tickets from him.'' Brian Dunphy, 30, a lawyer from Pelham, also was dismayed. He said that besides selling tickets, Bitter was able to decipher the station's garbled announcements and explain train delays. "That's really terrible,'' he said. "You need people sometimes. I use transit checks, and he'll take them from me. I've always done it this way. It's a lot easier.'' A tenant has not yet been found for the Tuckahoe station house, Anders said. Once somebody occupies the building, she said the station house should be open longer than its current hours of 6 a.m. to 2 p.m. In Pelham, the station building is to be divided between Steam, a coffee and breakfast concession, and a Houlihan-Lawrence real estate office. Denise Amorelli, an owner of Steam, said she, too, was disappointed at the loss of a ticket agent. "It's one less convenience for the riders. In terms of the business, it was kind of a shock," she said. "My partner specifically asked if the ticket booth would stay open, and we were told it would. We were a little disappointed. But our coffee is so good that they will come anyway.'' Amorelli said Steam, which opened last Wednesday, planned to remain open during renovations. Commuters at other low-traffic stations might start to worry that their station agents will be next. The railroad has ticket offices at seven Hudson Line, 12 Harlem Line and eight New Haven Line stations in Westchester and Putnam. It has 10 Harlem Line and 10 Hudson Line stations without ticket agents in both counties. While Anders said the railroad has no plans to close more ticket offices, the best way for customers to prevent that may be to buy tickets from their station agent. To register your opinion about the closings with the railroad, call customer service at 212-672-1290. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:58:09 -0500 (EST) From: "J. Henry Priebe Jr." Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Tamaqua, PA More info on and a couple of photos of the Tamaqua depot. Henry J. Henry Priebe Jr. Blue Moon Internet Corp Network Administrator www.bluemoon.net Internet Access & Web Hosting www.railfan.net Railfan Network Services >>>> This past Easter weekend Elsie and I visited the Tamaqua Station.While there we met Mr. Dale Freudenberger, he was busy restoring a mirror for the station. Mr. Freudenberger was very cordial and informative and informed us that the one thing the restaurant was waiting for was the license for the sale of alchohol. Once this is procured the staion restaurant will open. Here are a few pictures of the exterior of the restored station. The work that has been done is excellent! George Picyk <<<< Two recent photos are at http://forums.railfan.net/?board=Stations&action=display&num=1111183929&start=3#3 ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <4782c474781ab7.4781ab74782c47_@_optonline.net> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:47:11 -0500 From: jdent1_@_optonline.net Subject: (rshsdepot) RSHS Convention, Altoona PA - June 3-6, 2005 This is just a reminder to all RSHS members to get your convention registrations in. I sent mine in two weeks ago. I received an immediate reply from our host - Rich Ballash. I noted that I was the 10th registrant. Andy Koval was, as usual, the first. I also noted two names of members that had not attended previous conventions, as well as a few that have missed a few, but are registered for this year. So it looks like we will have a good crowd. Rich noted that a few planned stops had disappeared since last fall, but that new ones have been discovered to fill in the gaps. Remember to register, at the latest, by May 6, to avoid the $10 additional fee after that date. So, get those registrations in, make your hotel reservations, and I'll see you in June!! Jim Dent Oakland, NJ ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1118 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org