From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000001c48fd7$e7740ee0$b32df7a5_@_paul> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:48:19 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor Township, Minnesota, Part 1 (maps and Erskine, Minn. station) Population: 217 Bangor Township, Pope County, Minnesota Where Polk is: http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/P/Polk-County,-Minnesota.htm http://www.harpercollege.edu/mhealy/history/gifs/rdlakmap2.gif Map: http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/9/9b/Map_of_Minnesota_highlighting_Polk_Count y.png Old map of Polk County: http://www.harpercollege.edu/mhealy/history/gifs/polk1895map.gif Polk County est. 1858 Polk County included nearly the entire northwestern corner of Minnesota, representing the present counties of Polk, Norman, Red Lake and Pennington, and parts of Beltrami, Clay, Becker and Hubbard Counties. Its total area covered over 7,000 miles. Gradually legislation diminished the size of the county until nothing remained but the territory now comprising Polk, Red Lake and Pennington Counties. It was still large, in fact ranking fourth in size among all counties in the state. Here is Tilden Township in Polk County map, 1896: http://www.geology.und.nodak.edu/gerla/home/tilden_upham.html Note close ups of rail lines in comparison with old Polk County map Crookston on both Great Northern lines. Burwell, Benoit, Dugdale, Mentor going east. Then Erskine, McIntosh and Fosston the end of that line but it later (unless map just left it out) went to Bemidji and one destination east was Duluth. Kittsom and Russia going south. And that is the Northern Pacific going n-s stopping at Tilden On the old Bangor map, there is a Fertile, Minnesota near bottom of map, where two NP lines met heading south, including the one from Tilden. Lees is a stop in between, Delorme and Red Lake Falls station, then St. Hilaire, Thief River Falls. Grand Fork, ND in the next state is where the NP and GN lines head on west. GN north of Three River Falls went to Warroad at top of Minnesota, north from Crookston went to St. Boniface and Winnipeg in Manitoba. The diagonal line NW out of Fertile should be in the Tilden map but aren't. [Polk County, Wisc. stations : http://www.co.polk.wi.us/map/ ] Rail bridge in Crookston: http://www.crookston.mn.us/assets/images/railroad380.jpg Erskine, Minnesota GN depot, 2003: http://www.gngoat.org/03erskine.jpg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #985 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00ea01c4908c$9821f540$6b1ef7a5_@_paul> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 21:31:34 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn. part 2a (Canadian digression) (Strathcona, Ontario and Alberta, incl. Edmonton Radial Railway, High Level Bridge line) Strathcona, Minnesota is on the GN line north to Warroad I couldn't find a station picture. Below is Strathcoma, Ontario & Strathcona, Alberta. [Strathcona, Ontario, on the eastern end, at the far side of Lake Ontario, near Kingston, across from far north New York. Here is a station from this Canadian Strathcona, a so far unidentified interurban station. This picture is a good one showing the modern rail vehicle and a rural scene: http://www.postcardworld.co.uk/cards/row/strat.jpg ] [Canadian Pacific Strathcona, Alberta depot (1908) two views: http://www.oldstrathcona.ca/Images/About/Tour/CP-Building.jpg http://blackader.library.mcgill.ca/cac/bland/building/pictures/full/2-138.jp g One can take the High Level Bridge Streetcar from Old Strathcona to the Alberta Legislature: http://www.seniorcentre.org/Photos/Events/247bridg.jpg http://www.oldstrathcona.ca/Images/Events/mm-01.jpg The Edmonton Radial Railway, 1908-1951 after 43 years; rebirth 1979, restored electric survive 1985. 2003 schedule and map see: http://www.edmonton-radial-railway.ab.ca/2003sched.htm It is a volunteer run line: http://www.edmonton-radial-railway.ab.ca/ The High Level Bridge line runs with a railcar from the Hankai Railway of Japan: http://www.subwaymark.bravepages.com/transit/Canada/Edmonton/edm-vt-hl01.jpg At Strathcona Terminal on the High Level Streetcar line: http://www.subwaymark.bravepages.com/transit/Canada/Edmonton/edm-vt-hl05.jpg Street crossing: http://www.subwaymark.bravepages.com/transit/Canada/Edmonton/edm-vt-hl02.jpg At Grandin Station, provincial capitol: http://www.subwaymark.bravepages.com/transit/Canada/Edmonton/edm-vt-hl03.jpg An original Edmonton streetcar now in Strathcoma Park: http://www.subwaymark.bravepages.com/transit/Canada/Edmonton/edm-vt-ft06.jpg At rail crossing: http://www.subwaymark.bravepages.com/transit/Canada/Edmonton/edm-vt-fe01.jpg High Level Bridge: http://www.ecn.ab.ca/main/images/bridge.gif This is the old bridge being replaced High Level Bridge 1912: http://folklore.library.ualberta.ca/BigImages/09160001.jpg 1912: http://www.albertasource.ca/abitalian/images/Edmonton_Archives/high_level_br idgeEA-10-1289.jpg Here is a current picture of a Light Rail train crossing river, picture taken from High Level Bridge: http://www.subwaymark.bravepages.com/transit/Canada/Edmonton/edm-lr08.jpg The walkway under LRT bridge, High Level Bridge can be seen at right: http://www.alittlehistory.com/more/Edmonton/ELbridge.jpg Can you see the guy on the bicycle on the High Level Bridge?: http://www.alittlehistory.com/more/Edmonton/Ehbridge.jpg Light Rail Transit at Clearview Station: http://www.subwaymark.bravepages.com/transit/Canada/Edmonton/edm-lr04.jpg Construction of High Level Bridge, 1914: http://www.albertasource.ca/abitalian/images/Edmonton_Archives/high_level_co nstEA-10-300.jpg High Level Bridge car: http://community.webshots.com/photo/6877666/45403284rDqVKn ] Read about Lord Strathcona, major financier of the Canadian Pacific: http://www.visitdunkeld.com/lord-strathcona.htm ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #986 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00a101c49177$0991c3a0$181ff7a5_@_paul> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 01:29:45 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn part 2b (Warroad, MN ; Fort Frances, Ont.; Edmonton (incl. Incline Ry., Streetcar Library, LRT, etc.), Fort Edmonton, S. Edmontton, Alberta & Edmonton Green, U.K.) Warroad, Minnesota is up on the Minnesota border. The Canadian National depot (between Winnipeg and International Falls (Fort Frances, Ontario): 1915: http://nrhp.mnhs.org/images/s024_02.jpg 1992: http://nrhp.mnhs.org/images/s024_01.jpg Fort Frances, Ont. Canadian Northern depot in 1901: http://www.canadianheritage.org/images/large/20499.jpg Ft. Frances, Ont. is on other side of border from International Falls, Minnesota More Edmonton, Alberta... Edmonton Interurban Railway gasoline-electric car #1: http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/alltime/pics/EdmontonInterurban.gif The EIR, Edmonton to St. Albert only existed 9/30/1913 to 4/1/1914 after a carbarn fire destroyed all their gascar fleet. Some tracks leased and sold to Edmonton Radial Railway. The rest torn up. Edmonton Incline Railway (1908-1913): http://www.rewedmonton.ca/ARTICLE_PHOTOS/Content/418.jpg At the foot of First Street. This picture is on end: http://www.ourroots.ca/f/viewpage.asp?ID=857830&size=2 Edmonton Light Rail Transit page with station pictures and system map: http://www.urbanrail.net/am/edmo/edmonton.htm Belvedere station is nice: http://www.urbanrail.net/am/edmo/Edmonton-Belvedere_Station.JPG Edmonton Coliseum Stadium: http://community.webshots.com/s/image2/0/38/67/45403867tfvUtY_ph.jpg Similar LRVs to San Diego's. On Dudley Bridge: http://www.urbanrail.net/am/edmo/Edmonton-Dudley_B_%20Menzies_LRT_Bridge_win ter.JPG http://www.urbanrail.net/am/edmo/Edmonton-Dudley_B_%20Menzies_LRT_Bridge_sum mer.JPG Returning troops, 1919 at Canadian Pacific Edmonton station: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/obj/h32/f1/xx004743-v6.jpg You've heard of Library Buses, here is Edmonton's Library Streetcar, The Edmonton Street Car Branch Library, 941: http://www.epl.ca/EPLTheSourceArticle.cfm?article=V6-3/StreetCar http://cisti-icist.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/irm/archives/streetcar.gif First Passenger train Winnipeg to Edmonton, 1905: http://www.cta-otc.gc.ca/about-nous/centennial/rpt/CN002380.jpg Fort Edmonton station: http://www.nalug.org/TrainShow2003/party/ South Edmonton CP station, 1908: http://www.rewedmonton.ca/content_view?CONTENT_ID=508 Here is the Edmonton, Yukon and Pacific Railway on the Low Level Bridge, October 20.1902 inaugural train: It never went very far, the 13 mile road was merged into the Canadian National: http://www.rewedmonton.ca/content_view?CONTENT_ID=240 The ROW is a hiking trail today. [Here are pages with station pictures and history for Edmonton Green (1872) in England: http://www.enfield.gov.uk/museum/family_learning/edmonton_green_station.htm http://www.grunson.com/lower-edmonton.co.uk/railway2.html The Lower Edmonton station served a railway line Startford-London. London terminus was Shoreditch station. You will note when you enlarge the pictures on the page that the railroad is elevated through here. The scalloped platform sheds are great!: http://www.grunson.com/lower-edmonton.co.uk/images/scans/saep/085.jpg http://www.grunson.com/lower-edmonton.co.uk/images/digital/2000/2000-08-13/1 00-0206.jpg ] ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #987 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004e01c492e8$56073f40$722df7a5_@_paul> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 21:33:20 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) London: Shoreditch station, (also Whitechapel station, New Cross Gate station) Shoreditch Station, Eastern and North-Eastern Counties Railway Station In East London. Now a Metropolitan Railway underground (tube) station (but above ground): http://www.london-underground.de/fotos/eastlondon/shoreditch_station.jpg A terminal station: http://www.london-underground.de/fotos/eastlondon/shoreditch_platform.jpg Northern terminus of underground line. http://wind.prohosting.com/lutube/ELLPIC1.jpg East London Line Shoreditch to New Cross Gate, 8 stations. "When the East London Line extension is completed this station will close and be replaced by Shoreham High Street Station to be built. A single track line at Shoreditch; used to connect to the mainline railway just north of station for services at Liverpool Station. http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/c/c2/Shoreditch_tube_station_lar.jpg In the distance is the former continuation of the line: http://www.davros.org/rail/photos/p001.jpg Whitechapel Station (next station south) has the Hammersmith & City Line train passing above the East London line station: http://wind.prohosting.com/lutube/ELLPIC2.jpg The southern terminus in New Cross Gate station. The new line will once again connect to West Croyden and Crystal Palace: http://www.davros.org/rail/photos/p002.jpg Looking south. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #988 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003001c495fe$0585c0a0$9a18f7a5_@_paul> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 19:46:07 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Polk Cty., MN part 3 (Grand Forks, N.D. GN, NP & Midway depots) Grand Forks Great Northern depot, c. 1911: http://www.jcballentine.com/b364.jpg 1971: http://www.dicklightle.com/pictures/5270_a.jpg Grand Forks, North Dakota Great Northern RR depot: http://www.gngoat.org/03grand_forks1.jpg http://www.gngoat.org/03grand_forks2.jpg http://www.gngoat.org/03grand_forks3.jpg where'd the tower go? Grand Forks, N.D. Midway Railroad depot, now Kettle Valley RR: http://www.openminder.com/Images/2-8/stationpub-old.jpg http://www.techworld.ca/lifestyle/cw08.jpg It's a pub now: http://www.csc.uvic.ca/~msanseve/bike2002/kvr/big1/13400025.jpg http://www.openminder.com/Images/2-8/stationpubstart.jpg Grand Forks, N.D. Northern Pacific station, 1971: http://www.dicklightle.com/Pictures/5269.jpg GN Grand Forks railroad bridge pier, 2001: http://www.state.nd.us/ndgs/FloodPhotos/images/010410p2.jpg BNSF rail bridge, Grand Forks, 2001: http://www.state.nd.us/ndgs/FloodPhotos/images/010410p4.jpg rail bridge, March 1997: http://www.rwic.und.edu/flood/1997/scott_cam/train331.jpg rail bridge, April 1997: http://www.rwic.und.edu/flood/1997/scott_cam/train418.jpg Grand Forks 3rd Street: http://216.247.8.124/pixfiles/5298.jpg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #989 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004c01c49897$383b23a0$d62cf7a5_@_paul> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 03:07:47 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor, MN part 4 (Bemedji GN & M,RL&M depots; Puposky, Nebish depots) Bemedji GN depot: http://216.247.8.124/pixfiles/2295.jpg So far unidentified Bemidji depot, c. 1900 (maybe NP?): http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sunnyann/bemidjidepot.html Minneapolis, Red Lake and Manitoba RR depot at Bemedji: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part2/bemdepot.jpg 3 miles west of Bemedji, 1907, MRL&M viaduct over Soo and GN lines: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part2/gntrestle2.jpg 1912 MRL&M timetable of long gone northern line to Campbell Lake: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part2/timetable.jpg Puposky depot: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part2/puposky211.jpg Little motor car on the line: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part2/officials31.jpg Nebish was a short branch of this line out of Bemidji. Depot before 1902 fire: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part3/oldnebish211.jpg This was later extended to Campbell Lake "New" Nebish depot: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part3/newnebish.jpg This branch was abandoned and the rails removed 1937. The Puposky depot was sold in 1929, the Nebish depot was also bought and reassembled elsewhere. . The Minneapolis, St. Paul and Sault Ste. Marie also went through Bemidji, Duluth to Winnipeg. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #990 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004c01c49897$383b23a0$d62cf7a5_@_paul> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 18:38:38 -0500 From: Hudson Leighton Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Bangor, MN part 4 (Bemedji GN & M,RL&M depots; Puposky, Nebish depots) >Bemedji GN depot: http://216.247.8.124/pixfiles/2295.jpg >So far unidentified Bemidji depot, c. 1900 (maybe NP?): >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sunnyann/bemidjidepot.html Original GN Depot? >Minneapolis, Red Lake and Manitoba RR depot at Bemedji: >http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part2/bemdepot.jpg I have this identified as the SOO Depot - -Hudson http://www.skypoint.com/~hudsonl ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001901c4992f$f8bc0200$b72af7a5_@_paul> References: Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:21:12 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Bangor, MN part 4 (Bemedji GN & M,RL&M depots; Puposky, Nebish depots) > > >Minneapolis, Red Lake and Manitoba RR depot at Bemedji: > >http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part2/bemdepot.jpg > > I have this identified as the SOO Depot I found it on this page: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part2/firstpt2.html It is near the middle of the page above the schedule. Maybe it was station for both? pl > > -Hudson > > > http://www.skypoint.com/~hudsonl > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: <001901c4992f$f8bc0200$b72af7a5_@_paul> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:19:39 -0500 From: Hudson Leighton Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Bangor, MN part 4 (Bemedji GN & M,RL&M depots; Puposky, Nebish depots) >> >> >Minneapolis, Red Lake and Manitoba RR depot at Bemedji: >> >http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part2/bemdepot.jpg >> >> I have this identified as the SOO Depot > > I found it on this page: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~woss/part2/firstpt2.html >It is near the middle of the page above the schedule. Maybe it was station >for both? >pl >> >> -Hudson I will have to do some checking but the the NP/SOO were joint for the passenger depot. The MRLM Depot was different. As far I know for Bemidji there were GN Depot orginal wood replaced with brick NP(M&I)/SOO Wood/Brick Depot now resturant. MRLM Wood Depot burned 194?, with all the company records no less. - -Hudson http://www.skypoint.com/~hudsonl ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000601c49966$9b41a120$b72af7a5_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 03:52:06 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn. part 5 (Deer Lake, MN, Duluth (Union Station, Soo Line depots), MN; Duluth, Ga. SOU depot ) Deer Lake Depot (on GN halfway between Bemidji and Duluth) 1908: http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/troufs/Buffalo/images/pf027128.jpg Duluth, Minnesota: Union Station (1892), Duluth: http://216.247.8.124/pixfiles/4495.jpg http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnstloui/unionde2.jpg http://www.duluth-mn-usa.com/Duluth_Postcards/duluth_photo_engraving_1515_un ion_depot.jpg More Duluth Union Station: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnstloui/uniondep.jpg https://secure.mm-interactive.com/ecommerce/images/175/products/16448.gif This was also Northern Pacific depot: http://www.daylightimages.com/slides/hl/h1205.html Union Railroad Depot (Union Station) is now the Saint Louis County Heritage and Arts Center , from 1973; and has its own web page: http://www.cpinternet.com/~depot/ http://www.d.umn.edu/pic/depot.gif Here is a railroad exhibition at the railroad depot museum: http://www.grvs.com/duluth/2003/duluth.htm Aerial 1889 view of Union Depot and Superior Street, Duluth, Spalding Hotel behind, an excellent shot: http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/troufs/Buffalo/images/pf023253.jpg The museum trackside with Radisson hotel behind: http://www.umcycling.com/6dulstation.jpg [Duluth, Georgia : Southern Ry. depot now in W.P. Jones Park: http://www.railga.com/Depots/duluth.jpg ] Soo Line Depot, Duluth, Minn.: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnstloui/sooline.jpg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001301c49967$4d94dfe0$b72af7a5_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 03:57:18 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Robbers escape by streetcar Dateline Sarajevo: http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/News/2004/09/11/624415.html ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #991 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:27:55 EDT From: CoolGuy127_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Robbers escape by streetcar In a message dated 9/13/2004 3:53:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, luckyshow_@_mindspring.com writes: http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/News/2004/09/11/624415.html The above caption is not accurate. It was not the robbers who escaped by streetcar. Rather, it was the police who were using a streetcar in an attempt to capture the robbers, since they didn't have a police car to chase them with! And the above incident took place not in Winnipeg, but in Sarajevo! Daniel Chazin Teaneck, NJ ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #992 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002501c49ab8$8eea5b80$441cf7a5_@_paul> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:11:28 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn. part 6 (More Duluth, Minn., also Hibbing, Minn.) Union Station, Duluth served 7 railroad lines. The Saint Paul & Duluth Railway was one. Opened 1870. Part of the Northern Pacific after 1900: http://us.st3.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/scripophily_1807_254396833 1891 map of the Saint Paul and Duluth Ry.: http://www.memoriallibrary.com/Trans/RRGaz/SPD/stpaulduluth.jpg On the map, the railroad line north through Crookston is the St.PM&M, also the line west out of Crookston. Duluth, Missabe and Northern Railway, outskirts of Duluth, 1910: http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/troufs/Buffalo/images/pf032629.jpg The DM&N Hibbing, Minn. depot: http://216.247.8.124/pixfiles/2344.jpg Missabi Railroad Docks, Duluth, 2000: http://www.umcycling.com/duldocks1w.jpg I haven't figured out most of the 7 that used Union Station in Duluth. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003301c49ab8$fa8e3460$441cf7a5_@_paul> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:14:29 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn. part 7 (More "Duluth"- D&W; D&IR Two Harbors station; Duluth Buoy depot) Duluth & Winnipeg Railroad: http://www.rainfall.com/posters/images/mapsrailroad/rr004010.jpg Duluth & Iron Range RR depot at Two Harbors (1907) in 1981: http://nrhp.mnhs.org/images/i004_01.jpg http://nrhp.mnhs.org/images/i004_02.jpg http://nrhp.mnhs.org/images/i004_03.jpg North Shore Scenic Railway at Two Harbors, 2001: http://www.angelfire.com/mn2/tcrailfan/2harbors.html Two Harbors is northeast of Duluth on Lake Superior. "The Larger room within the Duluth Buoy Depot which was used primarily for buoy storage" AKA USLHS Depot: http://www.terrypepper.com/lights/superior/duluth-depot/duluthdepot06.htm Smaller oil room: http://www.terrypepper.com/lights/superior/duluth-depot/duluthdepot07.htm 1904 before construction, plans: http://www.terrypepper.com/lights/superior/duluth-depot/duluthdepot04.jpg 1905: http://www.terrypepper.com/lights/superior/duluth-depot/duluthdepot05.jpg In 2001: http://www.terrypepper.com/lights/superior/duluth-depot/duluthdepot01.jpg http://www.terrypepper.com/lights/superior/duluth-depot/duluthdepot02.jpg http://www.terrypepper.com/lights/superior/duluth-depot/duluthdepot03.htm Buoy Depot from old dock: http://www.terrypepper.com/lights/superior/duluth-depot/duluthdepot08.htm I found these at this photo site: http://www.northernimages.com/ ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003301c49ab8$fa8e3460$441cf7a5_@_paul> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:40:17 -0500 From: Hudson Leighton Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn. part 7 (More "Duluth"- D&W; D&IR Two Harbors station; Duluth Buoy depot) >"The Larger room within the Duluth Buoy Depot which was used primarily for >buoy storage" AKA USLHS Depot: You get 5 brownies for posting the wrong type of depot :) - -Hudson http://www.skypoint.com/~hudsonl ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002501c49ab8$8eea5b80$441cf7a5_@_paul> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:37:28 -0500 From: Hudson Leighton Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn. part 6 (More Duluth, Minn., also Hibbing, Minn.) >Union Station, Duluth served 7 railroad lines. > >I haven't figured out most of the 7 that used Union Station in Duluth. NP LSM/StP&D DMN DIR GN DW DUDT I get to 7 but it's a real stretch. SOO/DSSA had their own Depot CMO & DWP shared a depot just north of Union Depot http://www.skypoint.com/~hudsonl ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <006301c49ad3$3a0fafa0$441cf7a5_@_paul> References: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:22:26 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn. part 7 (More "Duluth"- D&W; D&IR Two Harbors station; Duluth Buoy depot) Yes, I had a similar depot in Bangor, Washington. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hudson Leighton" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn. part 7 (More "Duluth"- D&W; D&IR Two Harbors station; Duluth Buoy depot) > > >"The Larger room within the Duluth Buoy Depot which was used primarily for > >buoy storage" AKA USLHS Depot: > > You get 5 brownies for posting the wrong type of depot :) > > -Hudson > > > http://www.skypoint.com/~hudsonl > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #993 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000701c49b28$1e7e3040$ae20f7a5_@_paul> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:30:02 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn. Part 8 (Duluth Incline Railway- Duluth Skyride; also Duluth Aerial Transfer Bridge) Incline Railway in Duluth. There was a terminal building at the bottom, 1908: http://rs6.loc.gov/pnp/det/4a20000/4a23000/4a23100/4a23151r.jpg c.1909: http://216.247.8.124/pixfiles/2307.jpg c. 1910-1930 from Superior Street with rail yards foreground: http://rs6.loc.gov/pnp/det/4a20000/4a24000/4a24800/4a24814r.jpg with streetcars in foreground: http://www.x-communication.org/images/merchandise/InclineWebLarge.jpg http://www.duluth-mn-usa.com/Duluth_Postcards/duluth_photo_engraving_7554_in cline_railroad.jpg http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnstloui/incline7.htm http://www.duluth-mn-usa.com/Duluth_Postcards/detroit_publishing_8544_minnes ota_point_from_incline_railway.jpg http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnstloui/inclines.jpg http://206.103.49.193/odds/mn/jpg/dul18.jpg http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnstloui/incline2.jpg "Duluth Skyride": http://206.103.49.193/odds/mn/jpg/dul01.jpg 1904: http://rs6.loc.gov/pnp/det/4a10000/4a12000/4a12100/4a12155r.jpg http://206.103.49.193/odds/mn/htm/dul02.htm Aerial Transfer Bridge over canal: http://www.umcycling.com/6aerialbridup.jpg http://www.x-communication.org/mertransfer.htm http://www.mhsd.org/photogallery/images/charlesl.hutchinson-1997-wesleyr.har kins.jpg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <005c01c49ba3$dc5132e0$431cf7a5_@_paul> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:15:50 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor, Minn. Part 9 (St. Boniface, Manitoba depot; Winnipeg Union Station, GWWD depot; Winnipeg Electric) Nice 1895 Winnipeg scene: http://www.x-communication.org/images/merchandise/HillsideWebLarge.jpg Winnipeg, Manitoba: Greater Winnipeg Water District Railroad station: http://www.foundlocally.com/Winnipeg/images/GWWD-RailwayStation.jpg Winnipeg Union Station, c.1916. Same architects as Grand Central Terminal: http://collections.ic.gc.ca/cnphoto/images/canadian_northern/68018-1.jpg It was the new Grand Trunk RR depot in 1910: http://www.geocities.com/gold27ca/mc-newgtrsta-win1910.jpg http://216.247.8.124/pixfiles/3992.jpg http://cac.mcgill.ca/cac/bland/building/pictures/full/5-58.jpg http://www.gov.mb.ca/itm/comebacks/calling/winter03/images/union.jpg http://www.creativeworldtravel.com/main_images/churchill2.jpg http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~AD2Y-MRSM/winnipeg04.jpg close up: http://www.trekshare.com/members/asheandmaciej/images/jimage71694.jpg inside rotunda, 1929: http://collections.ic.gc.ca/cnphoto/images/canadian_national/15085.jpg http://www.twc.ca/images/virail/scan86-1_small.jpg The sheds, 2001: http://www.accesswave.ca/~gbevan/Photos/37-winnipeg-forks3.jpg The station is not in view in this photo, but this amazing streamlined observation car is. The Canadian National "Fundy" Skyview at Winnepeg, 1977: http://www.coffeecreek.info/history/fundy_a.jpg Similar to the Milwaukee Road "Hiawatha": http://www.coffeecreek.info/history/fundy2a.jpg CN lift bridge, Winnipeg, 2001: http://cac.mcgill.ca/cac/bland/building/pictures/full/5-58.jpg Main Street, Winnipeg: http://216.247.8.124/pixfiles/3987.jpg Winnipeg Electric Co. 1951 (blt. 1913 Winnipeg Elec. Street Ry.): http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/alltime/pics/transit_weco604.html Winnipeg Metro Transit Trolley Buses: http://www.umanitoba.ca/libraries/units/archives/tribune/photos/Winnipeg-Tra nsit-5.jpg http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/alltime/pics/transit_brill1764.html Winnipeg Electric bus, Westminster Route: http://www.umanitoba.ca/libraries/units/archives/tribune/photos/Winnipeg-Tra nsit-8.jpg St. Boniface, Manitoba train station: http://matthieu.papin.free.fr/french/canada/Winnipeg/ville/St%20Boniface%20g are.jpg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #994 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000c01c49d22$fcc16c40$fa26f7a5_@_paul> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:58:21 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bangor Township, Minnesota Final Part (10) (Other Minn. depots: Minnehaha, St. Paul, Luverne, Minneapolis GN and Milwaukee Rd.) Other Minnesota stations not near Polk County: Luverne, Minnesota Rock Island station: http://www.simpson.edu/~RITS/structures/depots/NelsonDepots/LuvernMN.jpg Union Station, St. Paul: http://www.simpson.edu/~RITS/structures/depots/NelsonDepots/StPaul.jpg Milwaukee Road stations in Minnesota: Minnehaha, Minn.: http://www.mnhs.org/places/sites/md/ Minneapolis: Milwaukee Road depot: 1935: http://collections.mnhs.org/VisualResources/VRDBImages/pf045/pf045737.jpg 1948: http://collections.mnhs.org/VisualResources/VRDBImages/pf026/pf026992.jpg [with Rock Island and Soo as well] 1952: http://collections.mnhs.org/VisualResources/VRDBImages/pf013/pf013889.jpg 1999: http://www.phototour.minneapolis.mn.us/pics/97.jpg I got these from this site, part of it is used for ice skating now:: http://www.phototour.minneapolis.mn.us/97 Great Northern Railroad station, Minneapolis: http://eldora.net/lyndon/depots/mplsgndepot.jpg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #995 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001b01c49f04$6f9a3840$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:24:46 -0400 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Princeton, IL From the Journal Star; Peoria, IL Train Depot Gets Back on Track - 93-Year-Old Hub Dodges Wrecking Ball With Funds From City, Amtrak, IDOT PRINCETON - Community members and public officials gathered Friday at the city's 93-year-old train depot to pay tribute to the years of effort to restore the site, which once faced the wrecking ball. Several years ago, there was talk of tearing down the depot and building a new one, said Princeton Mayor Keith Cain, but he and a group of others pushed for its rehabilitation. "I started on this one a decade ago. I wanted to see it cleaned up. I'm very proud of it now," Cain said. In 1998, Princeton joined with Amtrak and the Illinois Department of Transportation to begin a $665,000 overhaul of the station's building and platforms. IDOT anted up 41 percent of the funding, Amtrak picked up 20 percent and the city of Princeton paid the rest. The some 14,500 passengers who arrive and depart from the Princeton station every year can now enjoy the refurbished depot, which has a new roof and gutters, new brickwork and upgraded restrooms. The platforms have new lighting and canopy improvements. Landscaping around the depot and new railings are expected to be completed by November. Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari said he believes the improvements are already paying off. In the past fiscal year, Amtrak has seen an increase of about 15 percent in ridership at the Princeton station. The Princeton station marks the beginning destination for travelers around the region. Amtrak riders from the Peoria area, the Quad Cities and even Wisconsin regularly choose Princeton to embark on their journey. Such was the case for Molly Lee of Moline, who waited for a train Friday for a trip to Chicago. She said at only an hour's drive, the Princeton station is the closest Amtrak station. "It's a lot more convenient than driving all the way," said Lee. Three Chicago-bound trains serve the Princeton station as they head east. Heading west, the routes finish in Los Angeles, San Francisco Bay and Quincy. Princeton resident Leon Frank, who attended the ribbon-cutting ceremony Friday, said he sometimes travels Amtrak out west, especially in the winter because "it is a lot better than trying to drive." Frank said the depot is a nice touch to the city and should be enjoyable for the many riders who pass through Princeton. "There is always someone standing out here when it is about time for the train to come by," he said. Magliari said Amtrak helps cities as much as possible to revamp their stations, adding a welcoming station is crucial to Amtrak's success. "If there is a good market and a good station, we'll stop. If there's a good market and not a good station, we may not stop," Magliari said. Ray Lang, Amtrak's governmental affairs director, said the station should make Princeton and Bureau County proud. "For Amtrak, our train stations are our front doors. For our passengers, they are our first and last impressions. We think this station is beautiful," Lang said. Magliari commended IDOT for its support for Amtrak. He said without its support, the depot restoration would not have been possible. IDOT also subsidies short-distance, in-state routes with about $12 millions a year, an IDOT spokesman said. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <007b01c49f20$50cfc4e0$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:44:20 -0400 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Eugene, OR Eugene Depot get facelift 20 September 2004 - Associated Press Workers have finished renovating the Eugene Depot, transforming the down-at-the-heels building the city purchased two years ago into a clean and efficient station. The building`s exterior brickwork and trim have been restored and its interior has been redone. From tile floors to oak and fir trim to newly exposed coved ceilings, the $4.5 million project has taken the depot to a level that by all accounts is a couple notches above its mint condition of 1908 _ the year it opened. Dave Yarbrough, the Amtrak station agent who has worked at the depot since 1972, said the improvements have made the depot more efficient, but the aesthetics can`t be overlooked, either. ``There have been a lot of people over the last 30-odd years I`ve been here who have been great supporters of trains,`` Yarbrough said. ``This is a nice payback for their patronage.`` Among those impressed with the depot is Eugene Mayor Ruth Bascom, an ardent supporter of passenger rail service and among the first to call for the depot`s restoration. ``I think the Amtrak Cascades (the twice-a-day run between Eugene and Vancouver, B.C.) can only go up because of the number of people in this corridor, and the congestion,`` Bascom said. ``Having a restored station at this southern terminus, that`s very important. Virtually all the train stations in this corridor have been restored, or are in the process of being restored.`` ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <008801c49f92$9f0282c0$3928f7a5_@_paul> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:22:30 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) 1. Bangor, California part 1 (Oroville, Cal. & Wash, Orland) The opposite of Brittany might be Butte County, California Bangor, Cal. (Butte County) Lat. 39° 22' 30" N to 39° 30' 00" N Long. 121° 22' 30" TO 121° 30" N These are the parameters of the topographic map, Bangor Quad. Map of Butte County in northern California: http://www.bcag.org/images/county.gif http://www.paradisedirect.com/paradise/butteca.gif In this school district map, the Bangor district is on southeast of county: http://www.bcoe.org/home/images/district_map_blue.gif On this detailed map of Butte County: http://casil.ucdavis.edu/cgi-bin/cnty_drg?cnty=butte&zoom=1&width=2400&heigh t=2400 you see the Southern Pacific Railroad and the Western Pacific both went to Oroville, and you can see the WP going up Feather River Canyon. Bangor is on this map, no railroads, unless there were mining or limber ones once. Bangor is south of Oroville, a bit east on the road that skirts the county line going SE-NE, On the left of this map outside the Butte County line, is another SP line which also joined the main SP line n-s at Orland northeast of this map. This line's stops on this map are, heading south, Hamilton City, Ordbend, Glenn, Codora, Princeton, Stegerman. Note also the SP branch or spur SW out of Oroville into the Fernandez area where it says "tailings" so this is a mine. Another SP line ran through Gridley heading north to Biggs, Richvale, Nelson, Durham, Chico, Noro, Anita before leaving this county to Vina, Los Molinas where it joined the SP line n-s; south it met this same line south of Arbuckle. That line heads south, splitting before, the one to the east meeting the mainline at Davis, the western one went to Vacaville. It went north to Ashland Oregon and north, Amtrak uses the one through Chico. Note other routes, some abandoned on this map. One is the Sacramento Northern from above Chico south through Chico, Shopee (sp?), Oroville Jct., Peachlo, East Gridley. To Sacramento, to Oakland, to San Francisco over the bridge for a few years. An interurban railway with electric overhead wires. There is an SP line going east out of Chico to Paradise, Magalia, Stirling City. Cities/towns in Butte County include Chico, Oroville, Paradise and Gridley Western Pacific 2-8-8-2 east of Oroville in the Feather River Canyon, 1936: http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/WPART.JPG The Oroville WP depot, 1940: http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/WPOROVIL.JPG http://www.readingtimes.com.tw/folk/railroad/museum/images/OR1.jpg The Depot restaurant is now at the WP Oroville depot: http://oroville-city.com/photos/depot1.jpg WP engine in Oroville, Hewitt Park, 1959: http://www.cityoforoville.org/Parks/Train.JPG Detail: http://www.readingtimes.com.tw/folk/railroad/museum/images/OR2.jpg Sleeping car Silver Glacier, WP train #17, The California Zephyr, at Oroville, 6/30/1969: http://www.jerryapp.com/arcv3b/ja-r330.jpg UP in Oroville, 2000: http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/5/9/20/5350920IcblQEopRi_ph.jpg [Great Northern RR Oroville, Washington depot (1907) (it has been moved): http://www.greatnorthernempire.net/images/OrovilleDepotTrackside.JPG http://www.greatnorthernempire.net/images/OrovilleDepotCurbside.JPG Detail: tp://www.greatnorthernempire.net/images/OrovilleDepotBaywindow.JPG ] The Orland-Newville and Pacific Railroad is a volunteer railroad on the Glenn County Fairgrounds which passes the original SP Orland depot, but they don't show it on their page: http://www2.redbluffdailynews.com/specialsections/hwy99/orland.train.html Orland, tracks on left: http://www.westcoastroads.com/california/images005/bl-005_orland.jpg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <008701c49f92$3f2ef4a0$3928f7a5_@_paul> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:19:53 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Seventh try, title inside... 1. Brittany, Belle-isle en Mer, Bretagne (Brittany), France (Quiberon, Auray, , Ploemel, Carnac, Sable Blancs, Penthiévre, Isthme, Kerhostin and St. Pierre de Quiberon gares - stations) The stations on this page, some of them are magnificent. Many stone stations as well. Bangor, Bretagne, France http://www.bretagne-images.com/morbihan/localisation/bangor.gif No rail in this site: http://www.jpmoser.com/hotelcastelclara-p.html Bangor is on an island: http://www.calle.com/world/FR/0/Bangor.html http://www.bretagne-images.com/morbihan/localisation/bangor.gif Bangor is in Canton du Palais, on the island called Belle-ile off the southern coast of Brittany in France. There are three cantons on Belle-Ile. It's the big island, see this map: http://www.azureva.com/bretagne/images/pic_ile/carte_ile.gif On this map it is called Enez ar Gerveur: http://www.skoazell-vreizh.org/skeudenn/carte_bretagne.jpg This is the Breton language used on this map. Full name is Belle Ile en Mer. Here is Bangor on a map of this island: http://www.gite-sa.be/images/imagesgite/carte.gif Here is the island off a close up map of Morbihan canton: http://www.tourisme.fr/carte/map-departement-morbihan.htm Here the island is misplaced and given the name of its main town: http://www.otedis.com/inc/carte_1/56.gif And here is a Brittany map where you can read the names: http://cheminsdelamemoire.free.fr/cheminsdelamemoire/cartes-localisation/car te-bretagne.jpg Here is a map of Brittany showing the cantons: http://www.good-france-guide.co.uk/images/maps/france_brittany_3.gif 1934 State rail map of France, Brittany is under the Paris insert: http://isuisse.ifrance.com/cosili/France/Cartes/etat.JPG Note the ferry from Quiberon to le Palais on Belle-Isle. Some Brittany stations on the south shore... The canton in this area is Morbihan. The Chemins de fer du Morbihan (1907-1938) See map for this route. The closest branch to the island with Bangor (on the far side from mainland) is called: Le Tire-Bouchon Here is a map of the mainland Brittany facing Belle-ile (if not Bangor which is on south shore of Belle-ile, so not in site of Bretagne. Here is a map of this region, the rail lines are in black. Note Morbihan Bay, Queberon Bay and the ferry to Belle-ile: http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/cartes-29/29-09.jpg Quiberon is/was the closest rail station to the island on Brittany mainland. from Auray. Quiberon gare: http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/gare/photo_g/quiberon01.jpg http://regionaux.free.fr/reportages/bretagne/quiberon/09210104.jpg http://regionaux.free.fr/reportages/bretagne/quiberon/09210108.jpg Tower at Quiberon: http://regionaux.free.fr/reportages/bretagne/quiberon/09210105.jpg La halle a merchandises (freight depot) Quiberon: http://regionaux.free.fr/reportages/bretagne/quiberon/09210106.jpg A map of this line: http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/carte.gif The other stations on this branch, called Le Tire-Bouchon: Auray: http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/photos/01.jpg http://www.auray56.net/IMG/jpg/doc-148.jpg http://www.taxi-breizh.com/image/gare.jpg http://regionaux.free.fr/reportages/bretagne/quiberon/09210101.jpg http://regionaux.free.fr/reportages/bretagne/quiberon/09210102.jpg Trains from Brussels come to Auray. Belz-Ploemel station: http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/gare/photo_g/ploemel01.jpg Plouharnel-Carnac: http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/gare/photo_g/plouharnel01.jp g Carnac station: http://regionaux.free.fr/reportages/bretagne/quiberon/09210111.jpg interesting train at the Carnac station: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01054.html looking towards the coast: http://regionaux.free.fr/reportages/bretagne/quiberon/09210112.jpg Sables Blancs: http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/photos/09.jpg Penthièvre station: http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/gare/photo_g/penthieve01.jpg http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/gare/photo_g/penthieve02.jpg Isthme: http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/gare/photo_g/isthme01.jpg Le Tire-Bouchons, Isthme: http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/photos/13.jpg http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/gare/photo_g/isthme04.jpg Kerhostin: http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/gare/photo_g/kerostin01.jpg The very old St. Pierre de Quiberon station: http://regionaux.free.fr/reportages/bretagne/quiberon/09210103.jpg < Cette gare voit s'arrêter tous les trains, sauf les trains de nuit, qui filent directement à Quiberon.> http://www.lesgares.com/decouverte/tire_bouchon/gare/photo_g/st_pierre_quibe ron01.jpg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #996 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00ad01c4a108$0cea2ba0$481af7a5_@_paul> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:55:40 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) =?Windows-1252?Q?_Bangor=2C__Brittany_part_2_=28Vannes=2C__Pornic=2C__Le_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Roche_Bernard=2C__Redon=2C__Land=E9vant=2C__St._Nazaire_?= =?Windows-1252?Q?Le_Croisic=2C_Le_Baule-sur-Mer=2C_La_Baule_Escoublac_g?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ares=29?= This southern line in Bretagne was a private rail line originally I think. It came from l'Orleans station, Paris Chemins de fer Départementaux Vannes is the large town opposite Belle-ile where Bangor is, two lines come in here from the west and one from the east, St. Nazaire is to the west, Redon to the NW, Auray to the west. Les Gares at Vannes (Gwened in Breton): http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01020.html Morbibannaise station is on the left, the Chemin d'Orleans, the long distance, east-west line on the right. What I call "branch" lines were originally to the local station, the intercity trains went to Redon, the local canton trains went to St. Nazaire, and the other southerly lines to the waterside. Pornic is at water's end different branch south of Vannes. Pornic is within sight of Belle-ile as well. Pornic station: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/roland.arzul/etat/affiches/images/aff3_etat_pornic.j pg Pornic station: http://autorails.free.fr/Pornic/P0002499.JPG http://autorails.free.fr/Pornic/Pornic01.jpg Here is "Station La Roche Bernard: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01011.html Tramway de la Roche-Bernard La Roche Bernard is east of Vannes on a branch line to the waterside: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01042.html See how close on this map: http://marmiteenchantee.atontour.net/Img/plan.gif Redon is east of Vannes on the main line, la gare: http://www.lesgares.com/typologie/ouest/gare_ouest/redon.htm Landévant station is just west of Vannes: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/kaer-location/landevant_postcard.jpg (see map: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/kaer-location/dept56-carte.gif ) Saint Nazaire is not far from Belle-ile, just south near the coast, here is the nice old station: http://www.ac-nantes.fr/peda/ress/culture/patrimoi/saintnaz/vx-gare.jpg Le Croisic is a branch out of Ste. Nazaire, within sight of Belle-ile.: http://www.sybics.com/bb26065.jpg http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12571.html La Baule-sur-Mer gare is the station before Croisic: http://www.lepequod.com/medias/cpa/CPA0501.jpg La Baule Escoublac station (same place) is like a Swiss chalet: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12597.html http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12598.html http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12542.html The new station La Boule Escoublac: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12278.html http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12596.html ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00a301c4a107$aa605720$481af7a5_@_paul> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:52:52 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) =?Windows-1252?Q?2._Bangor=2C__Brittany_part_2_=28Vannes=2C__Pornic=2C__L?= =?Windows-1252?Q?e_Roche_Bernard=2C__Redon=2C__Land=E9vant=2C__St._Nazair?= =?Windows-1252?Q?e_Le_Croisic=2C_Le_Baule-sur-Mer=2C_La_Baule_Escoublac_g?= =?Windows-1252?Q?ares=29?= This southern line in Bretagne was a private rail line originally I think. It came from l'Orleans station, Paris Chemins de fer Départementaux Vannes is the large town opposite Belle-ile where Bangor is, two lines come in here from the west and one from the east, St. Nazaire is to the west, Redon to the NW, Auray to the west. Les Gares at Vannes (Gwened in Breton): http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01020.html Morbibannaise station is on the left, the Chemin d'Orleans, the long distance, east-west line on the right. What I call "branch" lines were originally to the local station, the intercity trains went to Redon, the local canton trains went to St. Nazaire, and the other southerly lines to the waterside. Pornic is at water's end different branch south of Vannes. Pornic is within sight of Belle-ile as well. Pornic station: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/roland.arzul/etat/affiches/images/aff3_etat_pornic.j pg Pornic station: http://autorails.free.fr/Pornic/P0002499.JPG http://autorails.free.fr/Pornic/Pornic01.jpg Here is "Station La Roche Bernard: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01011.html Tramway de la Roche-Bernard La Roche Bernard is east of Vannes on a branch line to the waterside: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01042.html See how close on this map: http://marmiteenchantee.atontour.net/Img/plan.gif Redon is east of Vannes on the main line, la gare: http://www.lesgares.com/typologie/ouest/gare_ouest/redon.htm Landévant station is just west of Vannes: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/kaer-location/landevant_postcard.jpg (see map: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/kaer-location/dept56-carte.gif ) Saint Nazaire is not far from Belle-ile, just south near the coast, here is the nice old station: http://www.ac-nantes.fr/peda/ress/culture/patrimoi/saintnaz/vx-gare.jpg Le Croisic is a branch out of Ste. Nazaire, within sight of Belle-ile.: http://www.sybics.com/bb26065.jpg http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12571.html La Baule-sur-Mer gare is the station before Croisic: http://www.lepequod.com/medias/cpa/CPA0501.jpg La Baule Escoublac station (same place) is like a Swiss chalet: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12597.html http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12598.html http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12542.html The new station La Boule Escoublac: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12278.html http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12596.html ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <010801c4a109$da9fcd60$481af7a5_@_paul> References: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:08:35 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Thrown back messages Henry, I just sent a part two of the Brittany France stuff. I looked at the message asfter I sent it and it had before almost every word. I removed the number <2> and same thing...when I sent myself a message with subject merely saying , this did not show up in the Properties>Details like with the Bangor... When I sent the California one the other day, it didn't bounce back The following is a message that produces this computer language: 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, Landévant, St. Nazaire Le Croisic, Le Baule-sur-Mer, La Baule Escoublac gares) This one is one that generates none of this crap: 2. Bangor, Cal., pt. 2 (Keddie, Oroville Dam RR, Magalia, Chico, history) Is it the "Pornic"? But that wasn't in the first message... I will remove parts of it and mail it I will check. This doesn't produce it: 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, This does: 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, Landévant, St. Nazaire Le Croisic, This does: 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, Landévant, St. Nazaire and this: 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, Landévant, This doesn't: ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <011e01c4a10a$3acee900$481af7a5_@_paul> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:11:16 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) mistake I sent that by accident... I am trying to figure out what it is that bounces back sorry ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <016a01c4a10d$7e389260$481af7a5_@_paul> References: <010801c4a109$da9fcd60$481af7a5@paul> <068601c4a10a$e1394bf0$0200000a@BobXP> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:34:38 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Thrown back messages yeah that is what it is I guess....Any accent marks except the dot on an "i" seems to bring a code which I don't know, it isn't HTML, does XTML have question marks and says Windows in the code, I doubt it....I won't use foreign accent marks in the subject any more. I think there is a flaw in the server's anti-spam/virus filtering. As it is now, it will reject any mail sent from Europe if it had accent marks in it....though I think it is my Outlook Express, because I figured this out here, sending messages to myself (who else would read them!)...so it isn't a server's fault, it is lame OE - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Harbison" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 9:15 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Thrown back messages > > This doesn't produce it: > > 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, > > This does: > > 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, > > Landévant, St. Nazaire Le Croisic, > > I'm pretty sure I Séé the problém. The é is confusing it... > Possibly switching character sets or invoking some kind > of code for alternate fonts or some such? > > Bob Harbison - Bob_@_RailroadInfo.com > > http://www.RailroadForums.com - Railroad Discussion Forum and Photo Gallery > http://www.RailroadData.com - Railroad Links Directory and Search Engine > http://www.RailroadPix.com - Railroad Photo Gallery > http://www.RailroadBookstore.com - Railroad Books at Discount Prices > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <068601c4a10a$e1394bf0$0200000a_@_BobXP> References: <010801c4a109$da9fcd60$481af7a5@paul> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:15:56 -0700 From: "Bob Harbison" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Thrown back messages > This doesn't produce it: > 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, > This does: > 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, > Landévant, St. Nazaire Le Croisic, I'm pretty sure I Séé the problém. The é is confusing it... Possibly switching character sets or invoking some kind of code for alternate fonts or some such? Bob Harbison - Bob_@_RailroadInfo.com http://www.RailroadForums.com - Railroad Discussion Forum and Photo Gallery http://www.RailroadData.com - Railroad Links Directory and Search Engine http://www.RailroadPix.com - Railroad Photo Gallery http://www.RailroadBookstore.com - Railroad Books at Discount Prices ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <019a01c4a10e$8e0ac0e0$481af7a5_@_paul> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:42:14 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) oops It went through anyway the first time, huh? ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <017401c4a10d$e9dc6b40$481af7a5_@_paul> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:37:39 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, Landevant, St. Nazaire Le Croisic, Le Baule-sur-Mer, La Baule Escoublac gares) (accents removed) This southern line in Bretagne was a private rail line originally I think. It came from l'Orleans station, Paris Chemins de fer Départementaux Vannes is the large town opposite Belle-ile where Bangor is, two lines come in here from the west and one from the east, St. Nazaire is to the west, Redon to the NW, Auray to the west. Les Gares at Vannes (Gwened in Breton): http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01020.html Morbibannaise station is on the left, the Chemin d'Orleans, the long distance, east-west line on the right. What I call "branch" lines were originally to the local station, the intercity trains went to Redon, the local canton trains went to St. Nazaire, and the other southerly lines to the waterside. Pornic is at water's end different branch south of Vannes. Pornic is within sight of Belle-ile as well. Pornic station (Remember to pick up the "g" of the link if it skips to the second line): http://perso.wanadoo.fr/roland.arzul/etat/affiches/images/aff3_etat_pornic.j pg Pornic station: http://autorails.free.fr/Pornic/P0002499.JPG http://autorails.free.fr/Pornic/Pornic01.jpg Here is "Station La Roche Bernard: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01011.html Tramway de la Roche-Bernard La Roche Bernard is east of Vannes on a branch line to the waterside: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01042.html See how close on this map: http://marmiteenchantee.atontour.net/Img/plan.gif Redon is east of Vannes on the main line, la gare: http://www.lesgares.com/typologie/ouest/gare_ouest/redon.htm Landévant station is just west of Vannes: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/kaer-location/landevant_postcard.jpg (see map: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/kaer-location/dept56-carte.gif ) Saint Nazaire is not far from Belle-ile, just south near the coast, here is the nice old station: http://www.ac-nantes.fr/peda/ress/culture/patrimoi/saintnaz/vx-gare.jpg Le Croisic is a branch out of Ste. Nazaire, within sight of Belle-ile.: http://www.sybics.com/bb26065.jpg http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12571.html La Baule-sur-Mer gare is the station before Croisic: http://www.lepequod.com/medias/cpa/CPA0501.jpg La Baule Escoublac station (same place) is like a Swiss chalet: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12597.html http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12598.html http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12542.html The new station La Boule Escoublac: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12278.html http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM12596.html ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <010801c4a109$da9fcd60$481af7a5_@_paul> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:13:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Henry Priebe Jr." Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Thrown back messages It's the accented characters which are forcing character encoding into the subject line by your mailer. I haven't ever seen this as a problem before. The list processor expects subject lines to be US ASCII basically, plain vanilla text. Change é to e and other accented chars to their plain english equivalents and it should be happy. Henry On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Paul Luchter wrote: > Henry, > > I just sent a part two of the Brittany France stuff. I looked at the message > asfter I sent it and it had before almost every word. I > removed the number <2> and same thing...when I sent myself a message with > subject merely saying , this did not show up in the Properties>Details > like with the Bangor... > > When I sent the California one the other day, it didn't bounce back > > The following is a message that produces this computer language: > 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, > Landévant, St. Nazaire Le Croisic, Le Baule-sur-Mer, La Baule Escoublac > gares) > > This one is one that generates none of this crap: > 2. Bangor, Cal., pt. 2 (Keddie, Oroville Dam RR, Magalia, Chico, history) > > Is it the "Pornic"? But that wasn't in the first message... I will remove > parts of it and mail it > > I will check. > > This doesn't produce it: > 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, > This does: > 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, > Landévant, St. Nazaire Le Croisic, > This does: > 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, > Landévant, St. Nazaire > and this: > 2. Bangor, Brittany part 2 (Vannes, Pornic, Le Roche Bernard, Redon, > Landévant, > This doesn't: > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > J. Henry Priebe Jr. Blue Moon Internet Corp Network Administrator www.bluemoon.net Internet Access & Web Hosting www.railfan.net Railfan Network Services ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <016a01c4a10d$7e389260$481af7a5_@_paul> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:47:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Henry Priebe Jr." Subject: (rshsdepot) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=28rshsdepot=29_Thrown_back_messages_-_S?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9=E9=E9=E9=E9=E9=E9=E9=E9=E9=E9=E9=E9=E9?= Just use the ISO-8859-1 character set WITHOUT quoted printable or "QP" encoding and it won't cause any problems. Most decent email clients will let you save settings on a per-recipient basis. Séé? A good primer for making mail clients friendly again is at http://expita.com/nomime.html Henry J. Henry Priebe Jr. Blue Moon Internet Corp Network Administrator www.bluemoon.net Internet Access & Web Hosting www.railfan.net Railfan Network Services ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #997 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:27:01 -0400 From: jdent1_@_optonline.net Subject: (rshsdepot) New Penn Station, New York New Jersey Transit Will Consider Occupying New Station in Midtown September 24, 2004 By MICHAEL LUO The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey awarded $10 million to New Jersey Transit yesterday to study how it might extend its current platforms in Pennsylvania Station into a new station in the James A. Farley post office building. The work could pave the way for the transit agency to become the new station's main tenant, instead of Amtrak. Plans to build a grand railroad hub in the landmark Farley post office building, between Eighth and Ninth Avenues and 31st and 33rd Streets in Manhattan, have been in the making for more than a decade, only to be delayed time and time again. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who died last year, was the project's main advocate, calling for the city to redeem itself after the original Pennsylvania Station, a neo-Classical masterpiece designed by McKim, Mead & White, was torn down in the 1960's. The new station in the post office, to be named for Senator Moynihan, would free up space in the crowded Penn Station, just across Eighth Avenue. Recently, Amtrak, long the station's intended tenant, declared it would not pay any rent if it moved into the space from its current home in the existing Penn Station, which it owns, because of continuing financial problems. That left officials with the Empire State Development Corporation, which oversees the project through its subsidiary, the Moynihan Station Redevelopment Corporation, casting about for alternatives. "We have said that this project will not be stopped," said Charles A. Gargano, chairman of the Empire State Development Corporation and vice chairman of the Port Authority's board. "Or we would lose more than $300 million in federal aid." Mr. Gargano said yesterday that he was not bothered by Amtrak's change of heart, calling the national railroad "a minor player" in Penn Station and pointing out that it provides only about 28,000 of the 500,000 people who use Penn Station daily. New Jersey Transit, which shares use of Penn Station with Amtrak and the Long Island Rail Road, represents a logical fallback because its ridership has been exploding and its concourses have become increasingly crowded. The Long Island Rail Road operates more than half the trains that use Penn Station; New Jersey Transit accounts for about a third; and Amtrak, 16 percent. To help it move more people into Manhattan, New Jersey Transit has been working on plans to build a new tunnel under the Hudson River that would allow it to double the number of trains into Penn Station. But that project is years away from completion. In the short term, the transit agency's planners have been searching for solutions to their crowding problems. The Port Authority's money will pay for preliminary design and engineering work on building a new central pedestrian corridor that would give New Jersey Transit riders another option for getting up from the tracks and out of the current station. The money will also pay for preliminary work on building a new western corridor that would connect passengers to the new Moynihan Station, as well as extending the platforms on New Jersey Transit's current tracks into the Farley Building. "We're trying to get more trains and people into the existing Penn Station," said Richard T. Roberts, the transit agency's chief planner. The platform extension would allow dispatchers to send longer trains, carrying more people, into the station. But Mr. Roberts said New Jersey Transit officials also want to make sure customers have connections to Moynihan Station. Lynn Bowersox, assistant executive director of New Jersey Transit, said no decisions had been made yet on whether the agency would move completely into the new station, split its ticketing and waiting areas between the old and new stations, or not move at all. For many of its riders who work on the East Side, the agency's current location closer to Seventh Avenue is more convenient. "Nothing's off the table," Ms. Bowersox said. Mr. Gargano said yesterday that it was also possible that the Long Island Rail Road could become a tenant in the new station as well, although officials there had previously said they were not interested in moving into Moynihan Station. Mr. Gargano said he spoke last week with Peter S. Kalikow, chairman of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, about the possibility and was told that the authority would look into it. Yesterday, Tom Kelly, a spokesman for the authority, said, "We are exploring our options at the Farley Building," and added, "Nothing has been ruled in or out." The project, however, has the potential of competing for federal money and attention with some of the transportation authority's main building priorities: creating a link for the Long Island Rail Road into Grand Central Terminal and constructing the Second Avenue subway. Despite the questions about who will occupy the station, Mr. Gargano said that a request for proposals on commercial use of the space from developers will be sent out in October and that an award should be made by January. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/24/nyregion/24port.html?ex=1097020164&ei=1&en=dc89e92801b4d215 ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001c01c4a295$a82a7c80$471cf7a5_@_paul> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:21:47 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) 2. Bangor, Cal., pt. 2 (Keddie, Oroville Dam RR, Magalia, Chico, history) No accents in America Where the Northern Pacific or is it Great Northern ran on the Western Pacific was here at Spanish Creek, here the BN locomotive is on the WP trackage at Spanish Creek, heading west into Feather River Canyon on the Keddie, Cal wye: http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/WPBN8000.JPG Keddie was northwest of Butte Cty., Northern pacific came south to Keddie, the WP went east, SE at this point, to Portage. Here is the WP depot at Keddie, 1937: http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/WPKEDDIE.JPG There was also a WP line NE out of Oroville to Feather Falls, could this be the following?: Oroville Dam Railroad on trestle near Oroville: http://users.snowcrest.net/photobob/cor1.jpg near Oroville Dam: http://users.snowcrest.net/photobob/cor2.jpg under the WP: http://users.snowcrest.net/photobob/cor3.jpg http://users.snowcrest.net/photobob/cor4.jpg http://users.snowcrest.net/photobob/cor6.jpg Magalia depot is now Maglia Depot Inn since 1977: http://www.paradisedirect.com/paradise/pics/maginnf.jpg http://www.paradisedirect.com/paradise/pics/maginn.jpg Dogtown Village is near the inn: http://www.paradisedirect.com/paradise/pics/dogtownv.jpg Chico Amtrak (SP) depot: http://www.the-bus-stops-here.org/Amtrak-Chico_Amtrak_Station-s.jpg http://www.the-bus-stops-here.org/Amtrak-Chico_Platform-s.jpg more on Chico later... Northern Electric railway in Chico, 1909: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/chicostr.jpg Northern Electric Interurban depot, Chico (1906), c. 1910: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/chicosta.jpg The 2nd depot, Sacramento Northern Chico interurban depot in last year of streetcar service, 1947: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/60-3.jpg 12/14/1947 Sacramento Northern streetcar, Birney #60 at First and Main depot, Chico: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/60-4.jpg The NE went under `9`8 and Sacramento Northern took over. Chico Sacramento Northern map, 1947: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/chico-map.gif Sacramento Northern Mulberry Shops, Chico with Birney #60, 1937: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/60-1.jpg Birney #66 at end of 9th Street line, Chico, 1947. Used to go to Hamilton City, by 1947 only freight used that portion to get to SP interchange and a Union oil dealer: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/66-1.jpg Birney #60 at end of 16th Street line. From 1930's just a commuter line in Chico for the Diamond Match Company: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/60-2.jpg In 1940 the interurban service ended but streetcar service continued. 1947 excursion of Birney cars on freight only airport extension, viaduct: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/60-66.jpg For full history of Chico streetcars and interurbans see: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/chico.html The Oroville Line Change 1957-1962 changed the WP route east of Oroville due to dam construction inundation. Sacramento Northern pulled out of Oroville 1957. The SP left in the 1970s. Freight car repairer Solano Railcar stored freight cars on the SP line, but have now moved to Fernley, Nevada. UP and BNSF still go through Oroville today. The Oroville & Virginia City RR was formed 1868. An opposition formed the Feather River & Beckwourth Pass RR later the same year. All that was finished was the California Northern RR completed 1864, between Marysville and Oroville. Neither of the planned railroads from Oroville happened since the Central pacific blocked them from connecting to the UP or going to San Francisco. The first railroad to build through Beckwourth Pass was the narrow gauge Sierra Valley & Mohawk formed 1885. 3 foot gauge connected at Plumas Junction to the narrow gauge Nevada and Oregon RR. In 1895 it became the Sierra Valley Railway. Acquired by WP in 1917 after it reached Clairville and abandoned 1918. The Oroville & Beckwourth RR. In 1888 they formed to expand the Northern California (which the CP got rid of). The SP bought the Northern California in 1889 to block this plan. In 1892, the San Francisco and Great Salt Lake RR was incorporated. They surveyed a line but did nothing and were gone by 1905. The Oroville & Quincy was incorporated 1888. Jay Gould bought the Denver & Rio Grande but was persuaded by the UP not to expand to the Pacific Coast. Gould's son planned a railroad from Baltimore to the west coast. The Stockton & Beckwith Pass RR was formed 1902. The Boca & Loyalton RR reached the Sierra Valley in 1901. The Butte & Plumas Railway, incorp. 1902. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001701c4a297$35269960$0300a8c0_@_oemcomputer> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:32:55 -0400 From: Jim Dent Subject: (rshsdepot) Santa Fe Depot - Perris CA - ----- Original Message ----- From: KevWasHere_@_aol.com Just wanted to let you know that the Depot in Perris has its own web site (NEW) its www.perrisvalleymuseum.com Kevin Anderson Perris Valley Historical and Museum Association Media and Web Site ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #998 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004701c4a43d$1c303c20$5132f7a5_@_paul> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:52:59 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) 3. Bretagne, part 3 (Lorient, Quimperle, Port-Louis, Ploemel, Pontivy stations) Lorient is further west, Lorient gare, 1939: http://themasq49.free.fr/index_fichiers/1939_2808GareLorient.jpg What is that pattern, looks like old smoking pajamas or something. Here is the map section with Lorient: http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/cartes-29/29-08.jpg West a bit more is Quimperle station: http://elegoff.free.fr/quimperle/images/carte%20postale.jpg http://elegoff.free.fr/quimperle/images/tn_souvenir.jpg http://elegoff.free.fr/ Port Louis is on the opposite side of the Marco (?) River from Lorient, at the end of a branch going down the east side of the river. Here is Port Louis gare (with French text): http://www.port-louis.org/train.html By 1923 Port-Louis station was much more grand, La Gare Centrale: http://barrere.claude.free.fr/maurice/images/old-204-portlouis.jpg The port of Port Louis: http://barrere.claude.free.fr/maurice/images/old-216-portlouis.jpg http://barrere.claude.free.fr/maurice/images/old-213-portlouis.jpg If you think this was a small town, look at this page: http://barrere.claude.free.fr/maurice/port-lou.htm Ploërmel is on a north-south line north from Vannes to Dol, Ploërmel is in the center, here is the large station: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/breizh.ski-roues/images/Voie%20verte%2056%20Ploermel%20gare.jpg http://perso.wanadoo.fr/breizh.ski-roues/images/VV56%20Gare%20de%20Loyat.JPG http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/images-g-d-35/ploermel_gare.jpg http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/images-g-d-35/ploermel_gare_quais2.jpg Line abandoned: http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/images-g-d-35/ploermel_sortie_gare_vers_le_sud.jpg http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/images-g-d-35/ploermel_chemin_pieton.jpg Ploërmel depot (remember this means work facility, barn, engine house): http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/images-g-d-35/ploermel_cidrerie.jpg very nice: http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/images-g-d-35/ploermel_depot.jpg Map section with Pontivy, black lines are railways: http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/cartes-29/29-07.jpg Pontivy is in the center of another north-south line north of Vannes. Pontivy station (1864): http://www.lesgares.com/typologie/ouest/gare_ouest/photo_g/pontivy01.jpg Originally Napoleanville: http://www.lesgares.com/typologie/ouest/gare_ouest/photo_g/pontivy02.jpg Le Petite Gare de Pontivy: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM01052.html ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #999 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:51:40 -0400 From: jdent1_@_optonline.net Subject: (rshsdepot) Joplin, MO http=3A//www=2Ejoplinindependent=2Ecom/display=5Farticle=2Ephp/dwbryan109= 6314143 Frisco Apartments receive Governor=27s Award = by=3A dwbryan = Updated=3A 2004-09-27 14=3A42=3A23-07 = Lt=2E Gov=2E Joe Maxwell presented three Governor=92s Awards for Excellen= ce in Affordable Housing for developments in Kansas City=2C Joplin and Hi= llsdale (St=2E Louis) during an award luncheon=2C September 24=2C 2004=2C= at the Governor=92s Conference on Housing held in Kansas City=2E = The Frisco Station Apartments in Joplin were among this year=27s award wi= nners that also included the Hillsdale Revitalization in St=2E Louis Coun= ty and Columbia Square Apartments in Columbia=2C MO=2E = =22The recipients of the Governor=92s Awards were chosen for their tirele= ss dedication to furthering the cause of affordable housing for the peopl= e of Missouri=2C=94 said Lt=2E Gov=2E Joe Maxwell=2E =93All three of thes= e efforts show what can be done to reinvigorate a community=2C a downtown= area=2C and a neighborhood=2E=94 = The building of Frisco Station Apartments involved taking a storied=2C bu= t neglected=2C landmark in downtown Joplin and converting it to a seniors= housing community=2E The Frisco Building was originally built as a railr= oad depot in 1913 and was Joplin=92s first modern high-rise office buildi= ng=2E It served as a depot until 1955 and after years of gradually losing= tenants=2C the building was completely vacant in 1987=2E By early 2001 t= he city was considering demolition=2E Economic Security Corp=2E of the So= uthwest Area had tried for years to rehabilitate the property=2E In 2001=2C= Economic Security Corporation saw an opportunity to partner with a succe= ssful private developer=2C Carlson-Gardner=2C Inc=2E of Springfield=2C Mo= =2E=2C to preserve this local landmark and revitalize downtown while prov= iding greatly needed affordable rental housing for Joplin=92s seniors=2E = The City of Joplin provided a grant for the acquisition of the property=2E= Permanent financing was provided by the city=2C MHDC and additional equi= ty came from state and federal Rental Housing credits and historic credit= s=2E This historic restoration preserved the architectural integrity and = beauty of the building while providing 56 modern=2C safe=2C and comfortab= le apartments for seniors=2E = =93The historic rehabilitation and innovative reuse has already returned = lost pride to downtown Joplin and it is a cornerstone for downtown revita= lization efforts=2E The Frisco Building has truly come full circle=2C=94 = said Maxwell=2E =93The same can be said of some of the current residents = of the building who were delivered in the doctor=92s offices that used to= be located in the Frisco Building many years ago=2E=94 = ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1000 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <56a5655a29.55a2956a56_@_optonline.net> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:02:39 -0400 From: jdent1_@_optonline.net Subject: (rshsdepot) Storm Lake, IA Railroad rejects depot proposal from restoration group STORM LAKE, Iowa The Canadian National Railroad has rejected a plan to move a historic depot at Storm Lake so it can be restored and turned into a community welcome center. A local volunteer group has asked the railroad to donate the 1915 landmark depot for historic preservation. The railroad denied a plan by the Save the Depot committee to move the depot to a lot near the school administration building. But Brad Strader, a spokesman for the volunteer group, says it remains undeterred. The group has sent the railroad a second proposal calling for the depot to be moved to a parking lot that sits on a site owned by the railroad and leased to the Chamber of Commerce. The railroad had planned to demolish the depot, which is listed on the National Registry of Historic Places, and replace it with a metal building for crew and storage. Strader said he would oppose a prefab building going on the site for aesthetic reasons. The railroad refused to give or sell the depot to the Storm Lake volunteers on its original site, for fear of liability with tracks just a few feet from the building. Copyright 2004 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. http://www.woi-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2355730 ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1001 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002401c4a623$81810900$02d32644_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:54:48 -0400 From: "Bernie Wagenblast" Subject: (rshsdepot) Beacon, NY Train station plans greeted warmly 60 turn out to view Beacon proposals By Michelle J. Lee Poughkeepsie Journal BEACON -- The city's train station could get a glamorous makeover complete with a new transportation plaza, three-story garage and ''gateway'' building under a new long-term plan. More than 60 spectators crowded into the Rivers and Estuaries Center on Tuesday night to view the new designs, which include elements from two plans unveiled in November 2002. More than 1,800 people use the Beacon station per day, said Randall Fleischer, Metro-North's director of business development and facilities. While the plan isn't funded, community support could lead to federal or private backing, Dutchess County Metro-North board member James Sedore said. ''I think it's a good design. They have a lot of public area,'' Town of Poughkeepsie resident Paul Rinaldi said. ''It's an improvement over what's there and a nice way to finish the waterfront,'' he said. The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is working on a short-term, $10.5 million plan to add 365 parking spaces, a new entrance from Beekman Street and lights, sidewalks and landscaping. Under the long-term design, a new three-story garage would bring the parking total to about 1,800 spots. The garage would be tucked away in a natural hill to blend in the the landscape and the roof will have gardens. The second phase would reclaim part of the existing parking lot and turn it into recreational land with access to the waterfront. The outdoor parking lot would be reconfigured to create a circular drop-off center for buses, taxis, bikes and other forms of transportation. The third phase includes a new ''gateway'' building over the train tracks that could have a ticket counter, waiting room, information kiosks and tourist office. A final phase leaves some open space outside the station for possible private development. Additional entryways to the train station would be created to alleviate traffic problems. Beacon and the county also plan to link the new Beekman Street entrance to the rest of the city businesses and sites on Main Street. Praise from Steinhaus ''I believe this will serve as a class-A model on how you do community development around a river, in a city and how you integrate mass-transportation and riverfront development,'' County Executive William Steinhaus said. ''I'm glad they're thinking green. That's why I moved here,'' said Nora Cofresi, a Beacon resident who commutes daily to Manhattan. Cofresi hoped the station could work as a hook to lure visitors to Main Street. One of more than 550 people on a parking space waiting list, she also hoped parking space preferences could be given to Beacon residents. Serge Young, another Beacon resident, was also concerned a larger parking lot might lead to more traffic in the city and on the Newburgh-Beacon Bridge. But overall, Young, an architect, said he approved of the design, particularly the waterfront redevelopment. ''I think there are some pretty interesting ideas,'' he said. ''It's ambitious and I'd be shocked if it happens.'' ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <83b9e83d55.83d5583b9e_@_optonline.net> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:18:38 -0400 From: jdent1_@_optonline.net Subject: (rshsdepot) Dickinson, TX City gives money for railroad center DICKINSON - The city will provide $250,000 to the Dickinson Historical Society to help renovate the Historic Railroad Center, 218 FM 517 West. The center is the site of the old League City railroad depot, which is being restored to house the North Galveston County Chamber of Commerce, the society, a visitors center and a meeting facility. Another depot, which once served Dickinson, is on the site and will be used as a museum. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/2821143 ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00eb01c4a6ab$aa0836e0$1d1ef7a5_@_paul> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:09:24 -0400 From: "Paul Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) 4. Brittany part 4 (Quimper, Pont l'Abbe gares, Youtar Line "le Tortillard", Pont-Croix, Beuzec-Cap-Sizun, Crozon, Carhaix stations) We are at the western end of the southern Brittany line. The map of this area. Crozon, Quimper, Douarnenez, Pont Croix, Chatlaulin, Pont L'Abbé: http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/cartes-29/29-05.jpg Quimper is on a different line, the one heading west from Auray. Almost near the end of the peninsula, south of Brest. Gare de Quimper (1863): http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM00770.html http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM00771.html http://www.lesgares.com/typologie/ouest/gare_ouest/gare_ouest_typo.php?rep=quimper A line heads south from Quimper to Pont l'Abbé. The Pont l'Abbé station at the end of this branch: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM00773.html Throwing the switch: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM00772.html The last stop west on my map after Quimper, is Douarnenez. I can't find a station for there, but I did find a "Le Petit Train", the "Youtar" line. From Douarnenez to Audierne to Pont-Croix. This 12 kilometer line opened in 1894. Liquidated 1938, closed 1941, dissolved 1946. Here is a Youtar train at Le Pont Souganso et la Montagne: http://www.chez.com/pontcroix/petit%20train.JPG And here is a great one of a train at Pont de Suguensou: http://www.audierne.info/image/youtar/Youtar%20Pont-Physique.jpg The right-of-way today near same location, Valley of Goyen: http://www.audierne.info/image/youtar/Promenade%20du%20Goyen.jpg This train was known as "Le Tortillard", which may mean "the twister" Gare de Pont-Croix ( d'Audierne): http://www.audierne.info/image/youtar/gare%20audierne.jpg http://www.audierne.info/image/youtar/gare%20audierne2.jpg today as a house: http://www.audierne.info/image/youtar/Gare%20Pont-Croix.jpg La gare de Beuzec-Cap-Sizun, another station on the Petit Train (and note the windmills): http://www.audierne.info/image/youtar/Gare%20de%20Beuzec.jpg The all in French history of this line is here: http://www.chez.com/pontcroix/le_transcapien.htm Crozon is on the western end of Brittany, on the middle peninsula, SSE from Brest, on Morgat Bay. A closer look sees it is on the Bay of Douarnenez. Crozon-Morgat station, near at the end of Europe, very nice: http://www.ibretagne.net/FR/OBJ/MEM00781.html Carhaix is on top right of this detailed map (also southern line Lorient to Quimper: http://www.chemin-de-fer.org/trains-nord/cartes-29/29-06.jpg Carhaix is on another north-south line and on a east-west line, east of Brest. Gare de Carhaix (1891): http://www.lesgares.com/typologie/ouest/gare_ouest/carhaix/gare01.jpg http://www.lesgares.com/typologie/ouest/gare_ouest/carhaix/gare02.jpg An old steam, locomotive next to station: http://www.lesgares.com/typologie/ouest/gare_ouest/carhaix/gare03.jpg ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #1002 ******************************** ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org