From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001d01c1f02b$2e034230$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 05:41:18 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Tamaqua, PA Photo: http://www.tamaquasos.org/images/station-image1.jpg Ghostbusters: Something's strange at Tamaqua depot BY RORY SCHULER Staff Writer rschuler_@_republicanherald.com TAMAQUA - Detecting a hint of cigar smoke, she felt the first sign. Spirits were near. Christine Reynolds stood, framed by the charred entrance of the men's waiting room, in the Tamaqua Train Station Saturday night. And within minutes, the Danville woman knew she was not alone. Reynolds and her crew of investigators with the Central Pennsylvania Paranormal Research Association camped out in the borough to seek ghosts of the Molly Maguires. The team utilizes a myriad of cameras, detectors, recorders and equipment in an attempt to catalog and observe the presence of spirits. But it's the unique "sensitivity" of Reynolds - known for her super-sensitive perception - that is a vital tool in contacting the dead. "She points to where she feels things may have happened," said William T. Mahute, Pottsville, the group's co-director. "We utilize her sensitivity as another piece of equipment, and 80 percent of the time we find something where she points." Mahute arrived around 5 p.m. Saturday in a green full-size van, aptly nicknamed the "Mystery Machine." The one-time Philadelphia & Reading Railroad Station - now under renovation by Tamaqua Save Our Station - has a long, checkered past. The bodies of at least six executed Molly Maguires are believed to have been stored in the station, within three years of its erection in 1874. Kept on ice overnight in a crude wooden casket, a freshly hanged John J. "Black Jack" Kehoe, "The King of the Mollies," waited in the men's waiting room, transported by train from Pottsville on the night of his execution. The next day, Dec. 19, 1878, he was buried in a St. Jerome's Cemetery plot overlooking the station. But his spirit may still linger. The station saw its last passengers in 1961, and served as office space until the late 1970s, when it was vacated. Setting up shop in the station's concourse, a crude plywood table topped with high-tech equipment - including Geiger counters, infra-red thermometers, digital cameras and electromagnetic field detectors - served as a centerpiece for the group's investigation. A lone light bulb on an extension cord, draped over an empty gas pipe, served as the only lighting for the night's activities. The room once served as the station's main entryway. Now walls of chipped plaster, patches of exposed brick, and charred remnants of a 1981 arson blaze create an eerie, almost supernatural ambiance. Dale W. Freudenberger, SOS secretary, provided historical insight for the group of 12 investigators. "This room contained a round leather seat in the middle, surrounded by three upholstered black leather sofas and a fireplace," Freudenberger said while standing in the former ladies' waiting room - the station's waiting rooms were segregated during most of its operation. Glenda K. Wolfe, Danville, patrolled the area with a set of dowsing rods - an ancient technique of tapping into spiritual energy to detect unseen phenomenon. "I've used dowsing rods to detect everything from graves to water," Wolfe said, standing next to a burned out ticket window, golden rods tucked into her apron. Various contractors who have worked on the station have told Kenneth A. Smulligan, SOS president, of strange occurrences. The investigators tend to agree on one theory concerning the presence of dipping temperatures - or cold spots - throughout the building. "Some believe that when you become a spirit, your natural state of being exists in a state of spiritual energy we call an orb'," Mahute said. Around 10 p.m., Reynolds instructed the spirits to speak directly into the microphone, and then offered her next query. "Can you give us a name?" Reynolds asked. When played back, the recording cuts off at the end of Reynolds' question, and after two seconds, a dull electric hum permeates. Run through several filters, a breathy whisper seems to emerge. "Can you ... help me?" the voice seems to ask. The group's photographers successfully captured images of several "orbs" descending from the concourse's second-story vaulted ceiling. And at least one great mystery emerged - Mahute's van had been stolen during the session. "Maybe it was a ghost," Mahute laughed. "The idea crossed most of our minds." ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <013801c1f066$33a275e0$0200000a_@_windows98> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:43:48 -0700 From: "Bob Harbison" Subject: (rshsdepot) Train Station Resteraunts Looking for websites.... I've added a new category to my railroaddata links directory, resteraunts and lodging. I'm looking for any restaurants, hotels, B&B's and any other businesses that are in railroad structures. Since this is a links directory, I'm only looking for businesses that have a website. I'd like to add them to the directory. There's no cost or obligation, I simply add the site to my search engine listings. If you know of any railroad related restaurants or lodging please let me know off list and I'll add them to my directory. Even if you're not sure if they have a website, but think they might, let me know and I'll use Google to try and find them. I'm also interested in railroad themed restaurants, even if they are not in actual railroad structures. Bob Harbison - Bob_@_RailroadInfo.com http://www.RailroadForums.com - NEW! Free Railroad Discussion Forum http://www.RailroadData.com - Railroad Links Directory and Search Engine http://www.RailroadPix.com - Railroad Photo Gallery http://www.RailroadBookstore.com - Railroad Books at Discount Prices ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3CCEE48C.21338F99_@_swbell.net> References: <013801c1f066$33a275e0$0200000a_@_windows98> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:38:04 -0500 From: "Paul R. Metzler" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Train Station Resteraunts The Whittle Shortline Railroad company has taken over the Frisco Hotel (previously used to house crews during layovers) in Valley Park, MO (suburb of St.Louis) on the BNSF mainline. Whittle manufactures a line of wooden trains. Paul Metzler Bob Harbison wrote: > Looking for websites.... > > I've added a new category to my railroaddata links directory, > resteraunts and lodging. I'm looking for any restaurants, hotels, > B&B's and any other businesses that are in railroad structures. > > Since this is a links directory, I'm only looking for businesses that > have a website. I'd like to add them to the directory. There's no > cost or obligation, I simply add the site to my search engine listings. > > If you know of any railroad related restaurants or lodging please > let me know off list and I'll add them to my directory. Even if you're > not sure if they have a website, but think they might, let me know > and I'll use Google to try and find them. > > I'm also interested in railroad themed restaurants, even if they > are not in actual railroad structures. > > Bob Harbison - Bob_@_RailroadInfo.com > > http://www.RailroadForums.com - NEW! Free Railroad Discussion Forum > http://www.RailroadData.com - Railroad Links Directory and Search Engine > http://www.RailroadPix.com - Railroad Photo Gallery > http://www.RailroadBookstore.com - Railroad Books at Discount Prices > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:37:47 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: RE: (rshsdepot) Train Station Resteraunts Here's a website for Ken's Trackside in Dover NJ's NJT (former DL&W) station http://www.ardore.com/morris/morrisrestaurantlistings/restaurant/kenstrackside/morris_kenstrackside_restaurant_listing.ht= m Original Message: - ----------------- From: Bob Harbison BobHarbison_@_msn.com Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:43:48 -0700 To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net Subject: (rshsdepot) Train Station Resteraunts Looking for websites.... I've added a new category to my railroaddata links directory, resteraunts and lodging. I'm looking for any restaurants, hotels, B&B's and any other businesses that are in railroad structures. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:45:05 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: RE: (rshsdepot) Train Station Resteraunts The Lambertville Station (very original name) in the (I think, ex-PRR, nee B&D) Lamberville, NJ depot. http://www.lambertvillestation.com/station.html Original Message: - ----------------- From: Bob Harbison BobHarbison_@_msn.com Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:43:48 -0700 To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net Subject: (rshsdepot) Train Station Resteraunts Looking for websites.... I've added a new category to my railroaddata links directory, resteraunts and lodging. I'm looking for any restaurants, hotels, B&B's and any other businesses that are in railroad structures. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004c01c1f081$a71679c0$e5ed520c_@_hppav> References: <013801c1f066$33a275e0$0200000a_@_windows98> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:00:15 -0500 From: "Stephen Foster" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Train Station Resteraunts Last time I was in Wichita KS there was a nice (but pricey) cafe in the baggage room of the old RI depot (right next to the old Union Station). Prudential has/had offices in the front part of the old depot. I remember back in the mid 50's going in to both and begging timetables. Keep your rails shiny! Stephen "If it ain't steam, it's a powered boxcar" All Points North Model RR Club (Houston TX) http://www.allpointsnorthmrrc.org - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Harbison" To: "rshs Depot List" Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: (rshsdepot) Train Station Resteraunts > Looking for websites.... > > I've added a new category to my railroaddata links directory, > resteraunts and lodging. I'm looking for any restaurants, hotels, > B&B's and any other businesses that are in railroad structures. > > Since this is a links directory, I'm only looking for businesses that > have a website. I'd like to add them to the directory. There's no > cost or obligation, I simply add the site to my search engine listings. > > If you know of any railroad related restaurants or lodging please > let me know off list and I'll add them to my directory. Even if you're > not sure if they have a website, but think they might, let me know > and I'll use Google to try and find them. > > I'm also interested in railroad themed restaurants, even if they > are not in actual railroad structures. > > Bob Harbison - Bob_@_RailroadInfo.com > > http://www.RailroadForums.com - NEW! Free Railroad Discussion Forum > http://www.RailroadData.com - Railroad Links Directory and Search Engine > http://www.RailroadPix.com - Railroad Photo Gallery > http://www.RailroadBookstore.com - Railroad Books at Discount Prices > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <178.794daf0.2a008bdf_@_aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:07:59 EDT From: PifyJtrain_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) I am taking the train to Amherst Should not be a problem suince funds are being allocating to keep it going ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <9b.26c91f8d.2a008ced_@_aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:12:29 EDT From: PifyJtrain_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Train Station Resteraunts OPickciling station Valhalla NY current rr Meytor North Ex Conrail ex PC ex NYC nee Ny and Harlem ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004401c1f0a9$1030d6e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:42:25 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Rensselaer, NY Walkway, fiber lines going in at new rail station By ROBIN K. COOPER Gazette Reporter - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- RENSSELAER - Verizon Communications Inc. is installing 1.4 miles of new fiber-optic voice and data lines to help increase capacity and provide faster Internet access at the new $53.1 million Rensselaer train station slated to open in June, officials announced Monday. Meanwhile, construction workers are placing the finishing touches on the new rail station. Today, workers are planning to install five 42-ton beams as part of the new overhead walkway that will connect the train station to the passenger boarding platforms. A crane will be used to set in place the five 50-foot walkway sections between 8 a.m. and noon. Carm Basile, spokesman for the Capital District Transportation Authority, which is overseeing the new train station project, said the new fiber-optic lines will provide state-of-the-art communications at the new Rensselaer station. The $100,000 fiber-optic line project, which should be complete when the station opens, also could help attract new customers around the new station, according to Verizon spokesman Cliff Lee. The CDTA has said the station will be equipped with conference rooms and a business center that will include high-speed Internet access for laptop users. Amtrak's local general manager, Phillip Larson, said the passenger-train company plans to continue using the same internal communications practices that are currently used in the existing Rensselaer station. But the new fiber lines will help Amtrak when it makes the move from the old to the new facility in June. Larson said the new station is close to complete, but there still are a lot of logistical details to be worked out, including the relocation of furniture, computer hardware and staff. On Monday, Verizon also announced that it is planning to install about two miles of fiber-optic lines in Delmar to accommodate residential growth. That project, which should be complete by late summer or early fall, will cost about $190,000, Lee said. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004d01c1f0b5$986cd2a0$577ef2d0_@_lner4472> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:12:05 -0400 From: "Alexander D. Mitchell IV" Subject: (rshsdepot) Any report on preserved La Plata, Md. PRR depot after tornado? The diminutive PRR depot in La Plata, Md., recently moved across the tracks (PRR Popes Creek branch) and restored in preparation for reuse by a local historical group, is mere yards away from the heart of town--a town devastated by Maryland's most powerful recorded tornado. The tornado apparently swept through the center of town. To date, I have been unable to ascertain whether the depot survived the destruction. Has anyone managed to get hard information on the depot and whether it survived? Alexander D. Mitchell IV ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000901c1f0c4$91ffc800$fe805043_@_JimDent> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:59:19 -0400 From: Jim Dent Subject: (rshsdepot) Texas Depots I recently bought a book and just had a few minutes now to glance at it. The book is "Sante Fe in the Lone Star State - Volume 1 - 1949-1969" by Steven Allen Goen. The 144 page book is a self-described color pictorial. Many of the pictures are action shots on the lines and include depots as part of the overall scene. As a bonus a 20 page section in the back of the book depicts nearly 60 Sante Fe Texas depots, in sharp, well lit, color. I would recommend this book to Texas depot fans ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #361 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00ab01c1f0f6$4a89a400$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 05:55:14 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Shelton, NE USDA assists Howard County with restoration of depot museumLast modified at 11:32 a.m. on Monday, April 29, 2002 By Gretchen Fowler gfowler_@_theindependent.com ST. PAUL -- The Howard County Historical Society has received $53,000 in U.S. Department of Agriculture Rural Development Loan funds to help pay for the renovation of St. Paul's Transportation Depot Museum. Society President Marion Bahensky said the money was secured earlier this month. She said the total cost of the project is approximately $308,000. The historical society has contributed $130,000, in addition to the $53,000 in USDA funds and a $124,868 Federal Transportation Enhancement Grant. "The renovated depot will be used to preserve the history and cultural artifacts of the community," USDA Rural Development Manager Lennis Hodgson said. "The museum will serve as the main visitor complex of the historic village and will be open on a year-round basis." The Transportation Depot Museum, formerly the Shelton railroad depot, will be a main part of the historical village in St. Paul. Once the restoration is completed and exhibits are installed, the Howard County Historical Society will begin to generate income from admissions. Work began to renovate the interior of the depot early in January and is scheduled to be completed by June 28. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00b101c1f0f7$06119b10$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 06:00:29 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) St. Johns, MI Links: http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/newsimages/2002/x1578810_2.jpg http://user.mc.net/~louisvw/depot/st-johns/st-johns.htm (depot page with photos) St. Johns depot could become town center Restored building in St. Johns will be dedicated Saturday By Sally Trout Lansing State Journal ST. JOHNS - The Grand Truck Railroad Depot, a key part of city history, could soon play a lead role in the city's future. The depot, built in 1920 for $100,000 at Clinton Avenue and Railroad Street, could become an activity center for most downtown events - from the pumpkin festival to the Christmas tree lighting. "This is the only large green space remaining in the downtown, and the city felt it important that this piece of history and the land surrounding it be preserved," said Bill Schafer, city recreation director and a project coordinator. Residents haven't heard the clickety clack of a passenger train or its whistle since 1959. The last freight train passed in 1992. Residents and city leaders will celebrate the completion of the building restoration project at an open house Saturday. Railroad memorabilia will be displayed, and a dedication service is set for noon. St. Johns bought the building from the Michigan Central Railway for $85,000 in 1998. A year later the city got $325,000 to restore the historic building through a Michigan Art, Cultural and Quality of Life grant. The interior has been restored even down to matching the original wall colors and refurbishing tile and wood floors. Now there are public restrooms, the building is accessible for people with disabilities and planning will begin soon on development of the lawn. Tentative plans call for most of the building to be rented to a local nonprofit organization. A tenant hasn't been identified yet. "Everything is tentative right now, but the committee wants to have the building occupied within a month or two," Schafer said. "We don't want the building empty." Railroad tracks are gone and the neighboring grain elevator closed, but there are hopes for new beginnings. There are lots of dreams that could become reality there, said Ben Munger, chairman of the depot advisory committee. "We are hoping those attending the open house will bring their ideas to the table and have a part in shaping the depot's future," he said. Munger supports a master plan to help guide the area's rebirth. Some suggestions include a veterans' memorial within a roundabout at the Clinton-Railroad intersection, an open lawn area for activities and a shelter area suitable for a farmer's market. There also is talk of a rails-to-trails project that would pass through St. Johns between Ionia and Owosso. "I have always advocated we look at the depot from a larger perspective," Munger said. Contact Sally Trout at 377-1040 or strout_@_lsj.com. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <413CACCE0349D3118C300004AC38683402E0815D_@_msg1.utoledo.edu> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 07:14:28 -0400 From: MCamp_@_utnet.utoledo.edu Subject: RE: (rshsdepot) Texas Depots Obviously I need to add this to the Library list on the website. Mark > ---------- > From: Jim Dent > Reply To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:59 PM > To: RSHS List > Subject: (rshsdepot) Texas Depots > > I recently bought a book and just had a few minutes now to glance at > it. The > book is "Sante Fe in the Lone Star State - Volume 1 - 1949-1969" by > Steven > Allen Goen. > > The 144 page book is a self-described color pictorial. Many of the > pictures > are action shots on the lines and include depots as part of the > overall > scene. As a bonus a 20 page section in the back of the book depicts > nearly > 60 Sante Fe Texas depots, in sharp, well lit, color. > > I would recommend this book to Texas depot fans > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of > existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 14:17:31 -0400 From: "Kenyon Karl" Subject: (rshsdepot) Manchester VT - Train station project clears Select Board hurdle Train station project clears Select Board hurdle MANCHESTER — The Select Board voted 4-1 Tuesday to adopt a zoning bylaw amendment that clears the way for Ben Hauben to seek a permit for a 25,000-square-foot train station. May. 1, 2002 http://rutlandherald.nybor.com/News/SouthernVermont/Story/46116.html ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 14:29:01 EDT From: I95BERNIEW_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Manchester VT - Train station project clears Select Board hur... Here's a link to a photo of the old Manchester depot: http://www.ultranet.com/~jimdu4/manchester_depot.htm ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 18:55:45 -0400 From: "Kenyon Karl" Subject: (rshsdepot) FW: New E-mail Address for Trainriders - -----Original Message----- From: Wayne E. Davis [mailto:wedavis_@_trainridersne.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:41 PM Subject: New E-mail Address for Trainriders To all. Cybertours was recently acquired by Earthlink. This was going to force us to change all of our stationery, as well as our Web site address and e-mail address. We decided to bite the bullet and have registered our own Web site address, complete with our own e-mail. Please update your browser to visit the Trainriders Northeast Web site at: http://www.TrainRidersNE.org Our new e-mail address is: wedavis_@_TrainRidersNE.org Please update your e-mail address books and begin using the new address immediately. Thank you. Wayne Davis Chairman Trainriders Northeast ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #362 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004001c1f1bb$3c0eb620$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 05:25:00 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Lansdowne, MD Link: http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/805/images/news/ACF2B7.jpg (architect's rendering) Railroad is theme for streetscape Lansdowne residents support 'rail stop' motif Lansdowne project embraces train theme 05/01/02 By Marcia Ames - Arbutus Times Lansdowne residents gave Baltimore County the go-ahead last week for transforming their downtown into a tourist destination, using a railroad theme for a draw.In a meeting hosted April 25 by First District Councilman Sam Moxley's office, residents voiced their support for a streetscape concept plan that would upgrade the infrastructure as well as aesthetics of Hammonds Ferry Road, between Hollins Ferry and Lansdowne roads.In addition to new benches, trash receptacles, lighting, brick-covered concrete pavers and landscaping along that corridor, aesthetic improvements would include a faux roof and elevated decking for Jake Miller's five antique railroad cars.Total cost of the project has not yet been determined."The idea is to make it look like a rail stop," said Bob Capalongo of Whitney, Bailey, Cox and Magnani, the engineering firm serving as design consultants for the concept phase.Capalongo said the cars would be clustered in a row, with benches and plantings at either end. Each car would have a commercial use for attracting tourist as well as local traffic.A railroad-theme welcome sign is proposed for the east side of the corridor, just north of Hollins Ferry Road. The existing welcome sign across the street would carry a "leaving Lansdowne" message.To support pedestrian traffic and improve safety, the concept plan also proposes improvements to the existing sidewalk running from Lansdowne Road to Fifth Avenue, and a sidewalk addition from Fifth Avenue to Hollins Ferry Road, on the east side of Hammonds Ferry Road.Addressing roadway traffic concerns, the plan also calls for widening Hammonds Ferry Road between Clyde and Fifth avenues, to allow new traffic medians and parallel parking.A number of people voiced concern about drainage and flooding in the area, which streetscape projects do not address. Bryan Sheppard, Moxley's senior legislative aide, said the councilman was working with officials from the Department of Public Works and the Office of Community Conservation to address those issues.Bristling at suggestions that he would be favored by the streetscape project, Miller, who is president of the Lansdowne Improvement Association and a member of the streetscape advisory committee, noted that he would fund any improvements to his property.Anyone else having property along the streetscape corridor and wishing to make improvements would also pay an as-yet-to-be-determined price, he added.Said Miller, "If we don't have the full cooperation of everyone in Lansdowne, Lansdowne won't get improved."He contended that his critics should take more interest in LIA activities, to support the community and know what's going on."I've lived here all my life," commented Edna May Merson, who retired in 1986 as principal of Lansdowne Elementary School. "I think it's wonderful that the county is fixing up Lansdowne - it's long overdue."Moxley and Ray Heil, streetscape program manager for the public works department, stressed that the concept plan is only a beginning, with a number of phases to follow.The concept planning phase began in October of last year, with a meeting between the community and representatives of the county agencies involved - public works, traffic engineering, economic development, planning, and community conservation. Hosted by Moxley's office, that meeting gave local residents an opportunity to suggest needed improvements and, if interested, to volunteer for the advisory committee.After meeting periodically with agency reps and the design consultants for about three months, to hammer out a concept, on March 7 the advisory committee voted to support the resulting plan.Last Thursday's meeting gave the general public an opportunity to scrutinize it, and to go on record with any comments or questions.According to Sheppard, if the county's fiscal year 2003 budget includes adequate funding for Lansdowne streetscape, the project would move next into a full engineering and design phase to produce a final plan. As before, the public would be given an opportunity for final approval. The construction phase would begin next, requiring additional funding.The fiscal 2002 budget included $10,000 to support the concept plan phase. Sheppard anticipates that the streetscape plan would need to be incorporated into the county's budget for at least another three years.Contact Marcia Ames via e-mail at mames_@_patuxent.com. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004601c1f1bc$77b12bd0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 05:33:50 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Avella, PA Photo links: http://208.140.31.210/temporaryimages/bp35916.jpg (this link may expire soon) http://www.thayerhouse.com/Doug/avella.html (watercolor of station) http://communities.msn.com/AvellaPa15312AnHistoricalTown/oldphotos.msnw?acti on=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=140 (historic photo) http://communities.msn.com/AvellaPa15312AnHistoricalTown/oldphotos.msnw?acti on=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=138 (circa 1910) http://communities.msn.com/AvellaPa15312AnHistoricalTown/oldphotos.msnw?acti on=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=139 Grant puts plan for A.D. White library and museum on right track BY KIM LYONS - THE OBSERVER-REPORTER klyons_@_observer-reporter.com AVELLA - Among the projects approved last week for federal transportation grant money is a small, boarded-up former railroad station in Avella. It may not look like much now, but the A.D. White Research Society wants to turn the building into a library and museum that will house its namesake's collection, a treasure trove of genealogical and historical information. "He kept everything," said June Welch, who is part of the research group and knew Alvin Dinsmore White personally. White, a Washington County teacher and historian, collected obituaries, old newspapers, information on cemetery inscriptions and family files, among other historical documents. "He had genealogical information on hundreds of families in the area," Welch said. He also had written several books on the history of the area, Welch added. After White died in 1994, a few months shy of his 100th birthday, some of his friends formed the research society. "The goal is to preserve the vast amount of information he collected," Welch explained. The railroad building is to receive $150,000 for the renovations from the federal highway bill. It's part of $45.4 million in state transportation projects approved last week. The center is now in Burgettstown, and Welch said the group has been looking to move to better quarters. It purchased the railroad building a few years ago, with the intent of relocating the archives there. The museum-library will house White's collection, which includes documents from Washington, Beaver and Allegheny counties, as well as eastern Ohio and communities in the West Virginia panhandle. Within White's documents are copies of census returns from these areas from 1800 to 1900, as well as county histories, maps, and records of the various ethnic groups that settled in the area. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:58:09 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) East Broad Top Not depot news, but important preservation news... If you are interested in this issue I would strongly recommend reading the views exchanged on this issue on the Railway Preservation News Interchange at: http://www.rypn.org/ $2.5 Million East Broad Top First Phase Acquisition and Rehabilitation Project Withdrawn Negotiations have collapsed between East Broad Top Railroad owner Joseph Kovalchick and Allegheny Ridge Corporation (ARC), a State Heritage Park acting on behalf of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania with the endorsement of national historic preservation organizations and elected officials at local, state, and national levels. Acting on behalf of the Commonwealth, ARC had offered to buy an option to purchase the EBT. Concluding such an agreement would have cleared the way for an immediate investment of $1,000,000 in public funds for rehabilitation of the railroad's current operation. Mr. Kovalchick rejected the terms offered by ARC, and did not make a counteroffer. As a result, Allegheny Ridge Corporation has withdrawn its application to Pennsylvania Department of Transportation for $1,000,000 from the 2002 TEA-21 Transportation Enhancements Program, and also withdrawn its application for the previously approved $1,000,000 in 1999 funds. Including funds arranged to fulfill a required 20 percent local match, the now-cancelled first phase EBT Acquisition and Rehabilitation Project would have totaled $2,500,000. In a Finding of Fact used by leaders of the initiative to make their decision to end negotiations and withdraw the funding application, backers identified two central obstacles: (1) representations made by the owner in his 1998 application for the TEA-21 enhancement funds were not fulfilled and (2) the owner refused to enter into contractual arrangements essential to assure the public interest. The finding of fact, authorized by ARC through its negotiator for public release, reads as follows: East Broad Top Railroad National Historic Landmark owner Joe Kovalchick has refused to consider an option agreement for sale of the railroad. The agreement would have evidenced to state officials an initial step and good faith effort to preserve with public financial assistance this endangered historic landmark. Kovalchick previously rejected without counterproposal a purchase offer for the railroad, stating that he was confident that more cash could be received through liquidation of the railroad's assets. The purchase offer included the guarantee of an additional $1,000,000 investment of private funds to improve safety and for initial rehabilitation of the existing tourist railroad operation. In 1998 Kovalchick applied for and PennDOT approved $1,000,000 of Transportation Enhancement Program funds for restoration of the East Broad Railroad Rockhill shops complex. The award was based upon a statement in Kovalchick's application, and other representations, that 'The owner of the railroad proposes the donation of the shop complex to a newly created nonprofit organization.' None of these proposals or representations were fulfilled by Kovalchick. In February 1999 letters to various groups seeking their support for the state grant, Kovalchick wrote that 'Without support of this effort, it is almost a sure bet that EBT will wither and disappear' and 'We all know that without some source of public funding it is impossible to accomplish this living museum theme.' The Allegheny Ridge Corporation, a state Heritage Park and the designated recipient of PennDOT's 1999 enhancement grant, attempted for several years to proceed with the approved shops restoration project. However, Kovalchick would not enter into a reasonable public access agreement for the buildings to be repaired with state money, a common and necessary arrangement to protect the public's investment. Subsequently, in an effort to achieve public ownership and rehabilitation of the railroad, Allegheny Ridge submitted in October of 2001 an application for an additional $1,000,000 from PennDOT's 2002 Transportation Enhancement Program to include the previously approved grant of $1,000,000. A required 20 percent match of local funds would have provided for a first phase, $2,500,000 East Broad Top acquisition and rehabilitation project. The application was endorsed by representatives of the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission, National Park Service, Smithsonian Institution, National Trust for Historic Preservation, Railroaders Memorial Museum and by Joe Kovalchick. In a November 9, 2001 response to that application, PennDOT stated that 'we remain fast in our interest in the project' and agreed to combine the unused $1,000,000 Kovalchick grant with the 2002 Allegheny Ridge application if enhancement funds were subsequently approved by the State Transportation Commission. Unfortunately, given Kovalchick's continuing refusal to deal in good faith with public entities, the Allegheny Ridge Corporation has withdrawn its enhancements grant application to clear the way for other worthwhile and achievable historic preservation projects in the Southern Alleghenies planning area. Universally acclaimed as one of the most authentic and significant industrial heritage sites in the United States, the 32= - -mile, 3-foot gauge East Broad Top Railroad is listed as a National Historic Landmark, the highest designation in the U.S. National Register of Historic Places. In 1985, deferred investment in maintenance and preservation of the property caused the National Park Service to officially declare the EBT to be endangered. When the toll taken by deferred maintenance accelerated in the 1990s, the EBT was placed on the National Trust for Historic Preservation's List of Most Endangered Historic Places in 1996. (Philip Padgett) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <011a01c1f217$cd4279e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 16:27:37 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) St. Joseph, MI Link: http://user.mc.net/~louisvw/depot/st-joe/st-joe.htm (depot info & photos) Jennings gets preliminary OK to buy Depot By MIKE RUPERT / H-P Staff Writer The Herald-Palladium KALAMAZOO - A U.S. District Court judge gave initial approval Tuesday to an estimated $145,000 agreement to sell the assets of bankrupt Roxy's Depot Diner to St. Joseph businessman Tom Jennings. Jennings, owner of Czars 505 club and co-owner of the Pump House Grill, would pay $40,000 in cash and assume an estimated $32,000 in debt as part of the deal approved by Judge Jeffrey Hughes in a federal bankruptcy court in Kalamazoo. Jennings and 505 Group LLC, which he co-owns with his brother-in-law Raymond Mays, were owed an estimated $73,000 in loans and management fees by Roxy's Inc. under a court-approved management contract with the company last summer. Under the agreement, Jennings will withdraw those claims against Roxy's Inc. "Frankly, we didn't want to lose all that money," Jennings told The Herald-Palladium on Tuesday. "And we didn't want to leave the city holding the bag since they've been so kind in working with us on this project."We really didn't want to just abandon the project without it being completed." Roxy's Inc. opened the Depot Diner in the city-owned train depot in June 1998. Roxy's Inc., owned by Kevin Clements, also operated Roxy's on the Plaza on Michigan 139 in Benton Township. Both restaurants closed last fall. Roxy's Inc. filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in February 2001, and its assets were turned over to U.S. Bankruptcy Court. Roxy's lease with the city for the diner space runs until June 2003. Roxy's owes the city an estimated $10,000 in rent and utility payments, according to figures in the agreement.Approval of the agreement cannot be finalized until the Depot's liquor license is transferred to Jennings and a new lease is completed with the city of St. Joseph, according to the agreement. Jennings said the license transfer could take as long as three months. City Attorney Mark Bowman said the City Commission is expected to vote on a new lease early next month.Jennings said he expects to open the restaurant sometime in June, either under his ownership or under bankruptcy supervision until the agreement is final. "The plan, I think, will be to run it through this season and evaluate it and see if someone's really interested after we see some results," Jennings said. "Hopefully people will patronize it and appreciate if we can improve it this year."Chris Barnett, co-owner of Clementine's Too and Barney's Boathouse, had considered making an offer for the business, but decided not to late last week, said Barnett spokesman Pete Jorgensen. "We are absolutely interested in purchasing the property and fully intend to negotiate something satisfactory in the future," Jorgensen said Tuesday. "But we're not going to get caught up in legal manipulation and the chaos of bankruptcy court."Jorgensen said the amount of money owed by Roxy's Inc. to Jennings and the 505 Group gave them a significant advantage in buying the business. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #363 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3CD28B69.FF5C1685_@_nac.net> Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 09:06:47 -0400 From: Dave Rutan Subject: (rshsdepot) Sparta, NJ Station Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 00:04:17 -0400 From: "Charles Smith" Subject: RE: Sparta Station Workday Hello again, I spoke with Peter Garachi from the Star Ledger today. He's going to be at the station with a photographer on Saturday at 10 AM to gather info and pictures. It would be good if we could be assembled by 9:45am. I also urge anyone who's been curious about the station project to stop by. The more people he can talk with, the better. If someone can bring the VRA, Sussex RR Club and Tri State signs, please do - they'll look great in a group photo. Moreover, they'll be representative of the great group effort this project has been and continues to be. On the list of things to do on Saturday are: - - clearing the underbrush to the street (weather permitting) - - getting the desk out of the attic If you have a long ladder and rope, please bring it. It will make getting the desk much easier. Anyone with loppers or hedge clippers, please bring them. Jeff and Mary Hookway sent me a notice that the bees in the east end of the station have unfortunately returned. I'll see if I can treat the area again and reduce their presence but anyone allergic should be forwarned. Jeff & Mary, thank you as always! I'll be at the Tri State board meeting tomorrow night and will have limited email access all week. If you have any questions, give me a call at work 973-514-5756. Hope to see you on Saturday, Charles ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:11:01 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Quakertown, PA From the Philadelphia Intelligencer... Grant will help spruce up train station Plans call for the $100,000 to help repair the outside of the freight building. BY BRIAN CALLAWAY Staff Writer QUAKERTOWN =97Another $100,000 has been awarded for the renovation of the Quakertown Train Station. The federal grant will be used to repair the exterior of the freight building, while previously secured funding will be used this year to remodel the train station proper, located at the intersection of Broad and Front streets. "We've been working on this for a long time," said Richard Mindler, president of the Quakertown Train Station Historical Society, "so it's great to see this all coming in." The $100,000 will go toward cleaning the outside walls and replacing the roof on the 2,500-square-foot freight station. Mindler said the group is also preparing to go out to bid on train station projects to be paid for with a $600,000 grant received in 2000. Those projects include roof repairs and the installation of new sidewalks and windows. When completed, plans call for the 100-year-old station to have several historical displays, a community meeting area and other attractions. The funding for both grants comes from the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century, administered by the Federal Transit Administration. The new grant was good news for more than just the historical society. "We're really excited that they got it," said Pam Coleman, manager of the downtown economic initiative Quakertown Alive!, which has worked with the society to secure other funding. "The train station is a vital piece of our revitalization =97it's spreading revitalization around it. "It's a good expenditure of federal funds." Passenger service to the station stopped in 1983. It was then used for community functions for several years, but a 1989 fire gutted the building and left it largely unusable. Since 1990, the Quakertown Train Station Historical Society has held fund-raisers and lobbied for grants to get the station back in tiptop condition, a state Mindler said was finally within reach. "We were hoping to have everything ready this year for the centennial," he said. Instead, the work should be done this fall in time for the borough's annual Autumn Alive! festival. "But as long as it will be done at some point =97great, bring it on." - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #364 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001b01c1f37d$5a68be40$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 11:07:05 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Brownwood, TX Links: http://www.brownwoodchamber.org/images/pics/depot.jpg http://www.brownwoodchamber.org/Depot/depot.htm (watch changing pictures in center) http://atsf.railfan.net/depots/brownwood.html (photos from 1974 & 1976) http://www.ci.brownwood.tx.us/history/depottoday.htm (slideshow) http://www.ci.brownwood.tx.us/boards/bcifi/bcifi.htm (information & historic photo) Reception honors restorers of Old Santa Fe Depot By Candace Cooksey Fulton Brownwood Bulletin Remember that old riddle? "Railroad crossing, look out for cars, can you spell that without any R's?" Of course, as everybody knows, "t-h-a-t" doesn't have an R. Thursday, the Brownwood Civic Improvement Foundation Board tried to spell "thanks" without any R's. And might very nearly have succeeded. A reception at the Brownwood Civic and Cultural Center - a.k.a. Old Santa Fe Depot - honored the individuals and businesses "whose support and extraordinary efforts made the restoration of the Old Santa Fe Depot a reality." Community members strolled through the restored depot, seemingly designed for parties such as Thursday's celebration. On the red-brick walls hung the works of art of Brown County students participating in the third annual Stars of Texas Art Show. And after a few minutes of mingling and visiting, BCIF board members set up for a brief program. "We come together today to recognize the efforts and roles that many have played in the restoration and renovation of the Depot Civic and Cultural Center," said Greg Dodds, president of the BCIF board. Next on the agenda is the restoration of the Harvey House and beyond that is the Santa Fe Depot Plaza, the Great State of Texas Transportation Complex and the Lehnis Railroad Museum. The history of the building is a rich one. Built in 1909, the depot and the restaurant building next to it, the Harvey House (built in 1914), are considered classic examples of prairie style architecture. In the pre-automobile hey-day, both the buildings were a hub of activity in the downtown district of Brownwood. But, Dodds said, in the brief history of the buildings, as automobile travel improved, traffic at the depot declined. In the late 1970s Santa Fe ceased its depot stops in Brownwood and the old depot shut its doors. By the early 1990s, Dodds said, the depot building and the two surrounding blocks had become a blighted downtown area. "The pendulum had swung the other way," Dodds said, "from serving as one of Brownwood's greatest assets to one of its largest liabilities." The restoration and revitalization of the area began with the founding of the non-profit BCIF, which met for the first time Jan. 22, 1991 - and chose the depot as its first project. The depot project was completed in 1998. In 1999, the Chamber of Commerce moved into its current quarters in the basement of the Harvey House and, as negotiated with the BCIF board, manages the depot. Thursday was a thank you to the many who contributed and were dedicated to the restoration of the depot - a time to pause and reflect, but also a time to look ahead, Dodds said. Major contributors were given a limited edition commemorative print of the restored depot. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002101c1f380$f14551e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 11:32:47 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA Photo links: http://www.byrnes.org/railfan/amtrak/image_51.jpg (current station) http://nutrias.org/~nopl/exhibits/ccmem/union.jpg (station replaced by current station) N.O. Terminal To Become Transportation Central Facility To Host RTA, Traffic Signal System NEW ORLEANS -- New Orleans' Union Passenger Terminal is being revamped into a transportation center for the city. Until now, freight lines shared the building with passenger traffic, but on Friday, the freight leases were canceled. In one of his last official actions as mayor, Marc Morial, along with Amtrak officials, terminated the 50-year freight agreement, giving the city total control of the station. After some upgrades, it will become the nerve center for operations of the Regional Transit Authority and the city's automated traffic signal system. It also may eventually serve as a remote airport terminal. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 13:35:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Blue Moon Network Administrator Subject: (rshsdepot) Lousville, KY Union Station Derby Train Station Banner Photo at: http://courier-journal.com/localnews/2002/05/04/in050402s1p89863.jpg By Butch John bjohn_@_courier-journal.com The Courier-Journal The Derby Special has been absent from Union Station for more than 25 years, it is to be revived this morning. PHOTO BY MICHAEL HAYMAN In the early 1900s, dozens of steam engines, pulling hundreds of clattering cars filled with passengers, muscled their way to the Kentucky Derby festivities -- as much a part of the event as a mint julep. The trains weren't all as opulent as the Texas Derby Special, which had a one-of-a-kind shower, pipe organ and other amenities demanded by Texas cattle and oil barons. But they all shared the same atmosphere. ''It was a rolling party that started when they left wherever they were, continued until they arrived and continued on their return home,'' said Charles Castner, former publicist for the L&N Railroad, who watched many such scenes. About 7:40 a.m. today, more than 25 years after Amtrak's Floridian last spilled its Derby Day passengers onto Union Station's platform in Louisville, the Derby Special will return to Union Station. ''Passenger trains were the vital connection that helped bring thousands of racing fans to enjoy the most exciting two minutes in sports . . . which is being revived this year,'' Mayor Dave Armstrong said. The comeback is modest. It's actually the Kentucky Cardinal jazzed up with a little Derby flavor, making its regular run into Louisville. The fares are the same as usual -- but today they include a mint julep in a souvenir glass. Amtrak sold 49 seats for the Derby train; the run's average is 36. It added a lounge car and depended on sponsors for banners, the souvenir glasses and other Derby touches to set this run apart from the daily Chicago-to-Louisville service. ''What we've done for the first time on this train is have a lounge car,'' said Mary Black, product-line supervisor for Amtrak in Indianapolis. ''We will serve mint juleps and get people in a Derby mood. Then we'll see how successful this is before making plans for this year.'' A banner and virtually empty Union Station await passengers, who will be ferried to Churchill Downs and back by TARC. The Cardinal's Derby tie-in is as much due to local railroad buffs as it is to Amtrak's planning, said Jon Owen, a board member of the Kentucky Indiana Rail Advocates. Association members began pushing the idea shortly after the Cardinal first arrived in Louisville in December, two years after the train began service between Chicago and Jeffersonville, Ind. But Amtrak, which has been cutting personnel and threatening route changes to assure its survival, initially balked at the idea, Owen said. Amtrak officials eventually agreed to a low-key approach, with no additional passenger stops or promotions. ''If they geared up for it, they could have had some fun with it,'' said Barry Barker, TARC's executive director. ''(Amtrak's) focus, unfortunately, is on survival at this point.'' ''We hope to do more . . . in terms of promoting the train related to horse racing -- as a way for race fans in Kentucky to travel to Chicago for the Breeders' Cup in October, and for the Derby next year,'' Amtrak spokesman Howard Riefs said. The Derby train will never regain its past glory, supporters acknowledge. ''What you'll see may be a microcosm of the heyday of the passenger trains that came in for Derby, but not at all the same thing,'' Castner said. In the early 1920s, there were so many trains that the railroads couldn't control arrival and departure times for regular lines, or for the specials hooked together by travel agencies, wealthy sportsmen and socialites. It was a time when a scheduled departure was considered almost a sacred trust - -- so to solve the chaos, the railroads developed a numbers system designating each train arriving at Union Station or the old Central Station on Seventh Street. That allowed station masters to plan the trains' parking slots, no matter when they arrived. Departure, agreed upon ahead of time, was also based on the number. It was much like an air-traffic control system, Castner said. The system worked to perfection, Castner said, moving regular traffic and more than 50 special locomotives towing an extra 500 cars. Eventually, however, trains fell out of favor because of the advent of airlines and interstate highways. Union Station still handled as many as 30 special trains by the mid-1950s, but the number of passengers continued to tumble. ''By the mid-'60s, you had eight, 10, 12 trains coming into Union Station and a few into Central, Castner said. ''You could see where transportation was headed.'' Amtrak's Floridian continued to add Derby cars into the early 1970s, Castner said, but even that service dried up. This morning, the Cardinal will pull into Louisville with a Derby feel -- if not the impact of its predecessors. Henry J. Henry Priebe Jr. Blue Moon President & Network Administrator root_@_bluemoon.net www.bluemoon.net - Blue Moon Internet Corp V.90, X2 & K56flex www.railfan.net - The Railfan Network ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 13:36:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Blue Moon Network Administrator Subject: (rshsdepot) Highland Park, Texas Train Station, Armory Interesting tidbit. Please CC any reposnses to Chip at csrvices_@_swbell.net Henry J. Henry Priebe Jr. Blue Moon President & Network Administrator root_@_bluemoon.net www.bluemoon.net - Blue Moon Internet Corp V.90, X2 & K56flex www.railfan.net - The Railfan Network - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 02:22:25 -0500 From: "Chip S. Ross" To: railfanem_@_railfan.net Subject: Highland Park, Texas Train Station I lived from 1960 to 1969 across the street from this train station in a house my father built by renovating an old armory (that was designed and built very similar as the train station). This armory served a vital military role in the 1800's and early 1900's. Dad added a new structure to the armory, but kept the original building as intact as possible. My bedroom was in the old armory part and the next room down the hall from mine was haunted or possessed. The armory had also served as a overnight sleep over place for President Teddy Roosevelt. I would to hear from anyone that may know about any information why the room was haunted or possessed? The station was intact when we moved and was later torn down and townhouse built there. C. Ross csrvices_@_swbell.net ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 13:46:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Blue Moon Network Administrator Subject: (rshsdepot) Re: Lousville, KY Union Station Derby Train Two other trains are supposedly expected for the Derby, not sure if they will be terminating at Union Station, but I don't see why not. There is a "Governors Train" arriving on CSX, using mostly CSX B&O style passenger cars and supposedly there is also a special due in via NS. Henry J. Henry Priebe Jr. Blue Moon President & Network Administrator root_@_bluemoon.net www.bluemoon.net - Blue Moon Internet Corp V.90, X2 & K56flex www.railfan.net - The Railfan Network ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #365 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004b01c1f4a9$701a32a0$bd4f9a40_@_paul> Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 22:54:57 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) trip questions More dumb questions: OK I now know the great stone station at the triangle between CV and NH (sorry to use archaic designations) is Palmer station and I wish it would let me off while I wait to walk about it, under the great wood awning on the other side and inside the antique store... 1) So what was the yellow station-like building I saw last time years ago at the same spot but I presume much further down the tracks east (on the E-W line)? I peaked it over the freights to the north side 2)When was last time a passenger train let passengers off at this fine sturdy Palmer station on each line?? At this point I pause to reflect that many old stations still stand along the entire route to Amherst, and it is sad to see so many recently ended freight spurs along the way, and so many empty or mostly empty yards (though there are two Red and Black NH Diesels in Hartford yards, are these used?) I guess that is question #3.. 4) East of Norton Heights, Connecticut station in the parking lot near the tracks is a structure used by a company with a name beginning with "Darien",, is this the old station here or a freight station? It seemed too close to the Norton Heights station to be Darien... There was another building I saw looking like a freight station no where near anywhere and I forgot to write it down and didn't take a picture, so I shouldn't even mention it... 5) Springfield station stop: southwestern side there are no tracks, the current non-grand station is where the tracks would have passed, at the western end, off from the other tracks (10 in all once, 9 platforms?) west of the station proper, after passing the tower are two sets of skeleton remains of sheds, actually it seemed to be one shed that curved around...I took pictures, but with 3200 ASA film I don't know if I will have much to show.... What were these platforms, if not just a single curved platform for? The street (south) side was longer than the one closer to the other mainline tracks, the curve is at a wall, and I spot no exit from there, yet there seemed no way to have once gotten to those platforms from the station...I walked there because no tracks exist anymore, and didn't study it more for clues or better pictures because one I might have been arrested, who knows, and two, the train may have left me and left with my luggage (the reason I didn't stop the train before Amherst and bike up the rail trail to Northampton). What was this far off platform(s) for, interurbans? (it seemed the outside track never had a platform near the others, perhaps this track went there, maybe it was for express? Anyone know? My final question I asked before....sorry that I don't know where I put the info (obviously not in my brain)...what are the two stations in the Bronx on this old NH line? the crumbling one on the east side north of Orchard Beach/City Island road approaches, Pelham area; the second below Tremont maybe it is above the tracks somehow still there? Oops, another question, was there ever a purpose for the (now skeletal) paths on either side of the bridge, on the other side of the concrete, before the outer frame, they don't seem connected to anything at the end of the arch part of bridge on either side now...Did they ever, were they planned to be, is this the streetcar planned areas? Finally when will Amtrak go to Northampton again? (In addition to Amherst! LOL) Oh yeah, any stories or pictures of an old depot at Three Rivers, Mass. ?? Just north of Meriden there was a rail trestle....east-west, not on my ,map, why and what was this line? Paul ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #366 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:18:53 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Worcester, MA From the Worcester, Ma Tegram & Gazette... Communities hoping Union Stations get economies moving Sunday, May 5, 2002 By Bronislaus B. Kush Telegram & Gazette Staff PROVIDENCE-- Union Station -- a segmented complex of five yellow-brick and brownstone structures that distinctively reflect Colonial and Renaissance motifs -- hasn't seen a train pull up in 15 years. And except for the most ardent train enthusiasts, nobody in Rhode Island's capital city is really upset. Opened in 1898 to replace another train barn that burned down, the station snugly fits in the middle of Capital Center, a 60-acre urban renewal project that has reshaped the face of New England's second-largest city. Visitors walking out the front door are greeted by a public skating rink and a plaza that's ringed by the busy financial and government districts. Out back, the award-winning Waterplace Park -- created recently when the Moshassuck and Woonasquatucket rivers were moved closer to the routes they followed before 19th century development partially filled the waterways -- features a tranquil pool with a central fountain and a stone-stepped amphitheater. Nearby, Providence Place -- a glitzy, 13-acre upscale mall -- woos shoppers. Though it offers no train service, Union Station has a place here, serving as home to restaurants and offices, including those of the Greater Providence Chamber of Commerce and The Rhode Island Foundation, one of the region's largest philanthropies. =93It's too bad that Providence is one of the few cities that actually decided to close down (train) service in its Union Station,=94 said Rick Schwartz, a spokesman for The Rhode Island Foundation, which now owns a good chunk of the station. =93But on the other hand, the building was saved.=94 Providence officials view the restoration of their Union Station as an important piece in the overall $740 million plan to replace nearby empty lots and dilapidated buildings into a Manhattan-style neighborhood where people can live, shop and be entertained. But the success didn't come overnight. As their peers in Worcester are now trying to do, Providence planners had to find the right fit for the old train station - -- balancing the desire to restore a historic gem with the need to integrate that treasure into a comprehensive plan that would drive local economic development. By virtue of the dominance of the =93iron horse=94 in meeting the nation's transportation needs during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, train stations became centerpieces in many communities, with municipal officials sparing no cost to lavishly appoint their transportation hubs. But as America moved into the auto and jet ages, train service thinned out and cavernous Union Stations, with their large upkeep costs, began deteriorating. Many, such as Worcester's, shut down and became eyesores - -- prompting civic leaders to find other tenants and purposes for their rail centers. Some New England cities have chosen, whether by design or lack of development interest, to use their historic stations solely as transportation hubs. Others have added commercial, entertainment or cultural aspects to the mix. Urban designers stress, however, that there is no tried and true formula to making old train stations economically viable. Much, they said, depends on the market needs of the community and the ability of the building to fill that capacity. But, they add that the time and expense of rehabilitating the stations is well worth it. Erich Strebe, a spokesman for the Great American Station Foundation, said train station renovations have served as critical anchors in redevelopment efforts in a number of communities. He said the projects have increased employment, nearby property assessments and household incomes. Additionally, they have boosted civic pride. =93A station renovation leads to economic ripple effects, as well as affecting community cohesion,=94 said Mr. Strebe, noting more and more cities are looking to upgrade their stations. The New Mexico-based organization received between 40 and 50 requests this year from municipalities seeking financial help to restore their =93Union Stations.=94 Fifteen cities and towns got some aid. The foundation is a nonprofit corporation formed in 1996 as an offshoot of Amtrak to promote economic development through the preservation of railroad stations. =93There are always people saying, 'Why restore an old train station.' Well, there's an inherent value in those buildings,=94 Mr. Strebe said. =93In most communities, the train station is the premier piece of architecture, and many people can relate to it (historically). And then there's the economic development that a restored station brings.=94 In 1999, the foundation -- in concert with Amtrak -- studied the effect of station restorations in several cities and determined the investments yielded significant results. In cities the size of Worcester, for example, the projects resulted in an increase of 170 to 975 jobs. Meanwhile, the overall value of properties went up between $15 million and $90 million, with communities reaping an additional $750,000 to $4.5 million annually in property taxes. Urban planners, however, caution municipal officials that a train station restoration is not a simple task and that economic objectives are not realized overnight. In Providence, for example, the old train station sat in the middle of a tract that city officials ambitiously wanted to redevelop. There were some who advocated the demolition of the building, which occupies a parcel about the size of a city block. The tracks and other physical components of the rail system formed a physical barrier that separated the downtown from Smith Hill. Train traffic had dropped considerably over the years, and some felt a smaller station would better fit Providence's needs. When it opened, about 300 trains stopped at Union Station, but, by the 1950s, that traffic decreased by 75 percent. So, when the federal government proposed upgrades to the Amtrak system, city planners saw their opportunity to move on the urban renewal project. The rail infrastructure, including the bed, was removed and a smaller train facility opened in 1987, just a short distance away. =93For the most part, the tracks bisected the city, dividing the financial district from state government,=94 Mr. Schwartz said. As for Union Station itself, a development partnership planned an $11 million renovation to turn the building into a retailing center. A major fire, though, heavily damaged it, and the station looked like it might still face the wrecking ball. Renovation plans, however, were jump-started when London-based Cookson America -- in search of a North American headquarters -- bought the central portion of the station and retrofitted it at a cost of $14 million. That segment, which serves as the centerpiece for the complex, was purchased about three years ago for about $5 million by The Rhode Island Foundation, which moved its offices there and added an art gallery. Besides the foundation, the central segment houses a public radio station, a children's advocacy group and two restaurants. The Rhode Island Foundation, which has $400 million in assets and is the 20th-largest community foundation in the United States, hired a curator to manage the gallery, which rotates its exhibits. Currently, there's an exhibit focusing on the old Negro baseball leagues. Mayor Vincent A. Cianci Jr. had originally raised objections to the sale of a part of Union Station to the nonprofit foundation, fearing a loss of property tax money. City officials backed off, however, when the tax-exempt foundation agreed to pay anyway. The rebirth of Union Station in Providence prompted other communities to consider renovations. Train stations in Westerly and Woonsocket also underwent makeovers, though on a much smaller scale. Meanwhile, up north in rustic Vermont, a number of residents in Brattleboro banded together to save their community's station. From 1849 to 1966, the railroads linked Brattleboro to the otside world with as many as 18 trains stopping in the scenic town. All the mail, as well as the out-of-town newspapers, was delivered by rail. Trains served as the conduit for all sorts of goods. The 1950s, however, brought with it air travel and new forms of communication, including television and the interstate highway system. On Sept. 1, 1966, the Central Vermont and the Boston & Maine terminated regular passenger service, and Brattleboro's Union Station, a modest building by train station standards, closed. It quickly fell into disrepair and was sold to the town. The station was in great need of parking, and Brattleboro officials, fearful of the public's safety, decided to raze the building. A group of concerned residents, though, wanted to save the building in hopes of turning it into a community art center and history museum. After much hard work by volunteers, the Brattleboro Museum & Art Center opened in 1972, and the station became the first building in town to be listed on the National Register of Historic Places. =93The station was slated to become a parking lot,=94 said Christine R. Holderness, the museum's director. =93It was in really rough shape, and derelicts were continuously breaking in. People were literally scraping paint off the walls to save this building.=94 The museum, which shuts down in the winter, rents the station from the town for $1 annually. Officials said the building was almost totally dependent on volunteer help over its first 10 years of existence. It now receives some corporate and foundation aid. Interestingly, train service returned in 1973 when Amtrak reinstated The Montrealer. Today, there's one train that travels daily to St. Albans, Vt., and a second that winds southward to Washington, D.C. Overall, the station functions as a museum, though a small portion is used as a waiting room for train passengers. The museum has 500 members, and Ms. Holderness said it is becoming more connected to the town. For example, on the weekend of June 8, the museum, which opens for the season May 18, will be holding a Family Fair to coincide with Brattleboro's first =93Heifer Stroll.=94 It's unclear what the future holds for Worcester's Union Station, but the problems and issues that block its full use have been encountered by officials in other New England communities, planners said. Much, they believe, will depend on how city fathers decide to carve up Washington Square and the abutting parcels. =93Union Station is an important piece in downtown development,=94 said Philip J. Niddrie, Worcester's chief development officer. For the time being, Mr. Niddrie said city officials will continue efforts to expand and improve commuter rail. He said they are also interested in finding some tenants to provide ancillary services for station users, such as dry cleaning and package and mail delivery. Bronislaus B. Kush can be reached via e-mail at bkush_@_telegram.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #367 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001201c1f5b0$dfa27620$5b7ff2d0_@_lner4472> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 06:20:54 -0400 From: "Alexander D. Mitchell IV" Subject: (rshsdepot) La Plata, Md. PRR depot > Did you here from anybody about the status of this wonderful > station? I hope that it survived the tornado... I have finally (after much begging) received thirdhand reports that the station received minor-to-moderate damage from flying debris, but was not directly hit or destroyed by the tornado. No photos as of yet. Alexander D. Mitchell IV ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <340290C3.5E28B228.0C5D602C_@_aol.com> Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 10:53:43 -0400 From: PifyJtrain_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) La Plata, Md. PRR depot Wgat in the twon was destroyed cause i vivsited it a few years ago and stayed at this inexpensive but good hotel ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:49:38 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Waverly, OH I have been informed that the DT&I depot in Waverly, Ohio (Pike County) has been demolished. This was not unexpected; pe= r Dan West's "Existing Ohio Stations" website (http://www.west2k.com/ohio.htm) the depot was slated for demolition by the= city. "Norfolk Southern uses tracks to switch Mills Pride cabinet factory nearby. The city of Waverly bought the depot and yard= tracks connecting to NSRR . The city of Waverly plans to demolish the depot in the near future to satisfy state requirem= ents to construct a state approved truck bypass connecting SR220 East and West Second St." - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:29:58 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Grafton, WV From Railpace... GRAFTON CELEBRATION: A celebration commemorating 150 years of railroad history in Grafton, West Virginia will be held between Thursday July 4 and Sunday July 7 and will be centered around Grafton's downtown area, which is located immediately north of the railroad. It will include displays of railroad artifacts and model railroads, as well at food, craft and gift vendors throughout the weekend. There will be a parade on the evening of July 4 and fireworks that night, a Civil War reanactment on July 6, and musical presentations on July 4-6. The former-B&O passenger station is in the process of being renovated; and It is anticipated that its first floor will be open to the public at some point during the celebration. On July 6, various railroad photographers will present slide shows of B&O and CSXT railroad operations in Grafton and on the four lines that radiate from Grafton. The guest of honor, Alan F. Crown, CSXT's Executive Vice President-Transportation, will be present on July 5. CSXT's general office building complex will be open to the public between 1:00 p.m. and 5:00 p.m. on July 4. There will be a ceremony dedicating the new office building; and the railroad will provide refreshments. Various locomotives will be positioned for visitors to view and photograph. Inquiries regarding the celebration should be directed to the office of Grafton's city manager ( 304-265-1412 ) or the Taylor County Historical Society (304-265-5549). (Jay Potter - posted 5/07) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <182.8031ca2.2a0993fc_@_aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 16:33:00 EDT From: I95BERNIEW_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Waverly, OH In a message dated 5/7/2002 3:50:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jdent1_@_optonline.net writes: > I have been informed that the DT&I depot in Waverly, Ohio (Pike County) has > been demolished. This was not unexpected; per Dan West's "Existing Ohio > Stations" website (http://www.west2k.com/ohio.htm) the depot was slated for > demolition by the city. For a photo of the Waverly depot go to: http://www.dtirr.com/images/waverly.gif (1982 view) Bernie Wagenblast ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003c01c1f63d$bb32ef80$1754f6d1_@_paul> Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 23:09:10 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Springfield question redux Doesn't anyone know what those platforms at Springfield Mass station were? Also..what is Wgat? ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #368 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002201c1f676$b3c39e00$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 05:57:02 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Hutchinson, MN Photo link: http://www.hutchinsonleader.com/ArticlesImg/4775.jpg (May 2000) Plan to bring trains to city losing steam By Terry Davis Staff Writer - Hutchinson Leader It is becoming less likely that Hutchinson residents will ever again hear a train blow its horn at the numerous railroad crossings in the city. On Monday, members of the McLeod Regional Rail Authority and the shippers' Central Prairie Railway Associa-tion heard an update on the status of Dakota Rail from Chairman Sheldon Nies. Nies said it appears unlikely that the 44-mile ex-Great Northern branch line from Hutchinson to Wayzata will attract the necessary rehabilitation money needed to restore service. The last Dakota Rail train departed Hutchinson on June 14, 2000. The rail authorities from Carver, Hennepin and McLeod counties, along with assistance from the Minnesota Department of Transportation, purchased the railroad in December 2001 from Florida-based RailAmerica. Under a ruling from the U.S. Surface Transportation Board, they must attempt to find operators for the line for a period of up to two years. Hennepin County, as the lead agency in the partnership, has been leading the effort to survey the shippers' interest in restoring service and the potential to attract an operator, Nies said. "The state has said it won't put more money in for rehab. It is already putting money in for the purchase of the line," Nies said. The shippers are unlikely to be able to invest enough to restore service, but under the purchase agreement, the track will likely stay in place for two years, he added. Under the purchase agreement, the three county rail authorities retain control over the portion of the abandoned rail line within their county borders. None may sell off property within the main rail corridor right of way. Other railroad property can only be sold with the permission of all three county rail authorities and MnDOT. "The 100-foot right of way has to be preserved. The state isn't going to let us sell that. In some places it is narrower than that," Nies said. "We are hoping the spur line north of the river in Hutchinson (which is former Luce Line trackage) is outside of that agreement. We hope to be able to sell that to pay back the $550,000 the rail authority owes the state." Nies also asked for the city of Hutchinson's assistance in controlling weeds along the right of way within city limits and for help in cleaning up debris near the railroad's shop at the Bluff Street crossing. Rail authority member Larry Graf was appointed by Nies to lead a committee that will study the condition of the Hutchinson depot, which was damaged by fire in April 2001. Mayor Marlin Torgerson said a consultant for the Hutchinson Downtown Association has suggested the depot be preserved and moved to a site north of the river to serve as a trail head or chamber of commerce office. A local model railroad group is interested in preserving the depot and two pieces of maintenance of way equipment parked outside as a historical display and home for a model railroad. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002801c1f67a$52bf3430$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 06:22:57 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) 30th Street Station, Philadelphia, PA Photo links: http://www.prrths.com/Phila_Images_PP8.htm (aerial view) http://www.prrths.com/Phila_Images_PP5.htm (aerial view) http://www.nrhs.com/natdir/spring01/30th-interior.jpg (interior view) Realty Trust Plans 32-Story Office Building at Philadelphia Amtrak Station Cira Centre would be constructed next to 30th Street Station starting next year. The opening is scheduled for late in 2005. Philadelphia Inquirer...05/08/2002 By Henry J. Holcomb The region's top suburban office landlord is making a major move in the city. Brandywine Realty Trust will unveil plans this morning for a 32-story office building, designed by renowned architect Cesar Pelli, that it says will be under construction next year at Amtrak's 30th Street Station, and open in late 2005. Pelli, best known for his work on the world's tallest buildings, the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lampur, has designed a prism-shaped, silvery glass structure. "It will take on the quality of the sky ... with its many facets reflecting different parts of the sky, it will sparkle," said Pelli associate Mark Shoemaker. This is a much smaller-scale development than others that have proposed for the site. In the 1980s, Houston developer Gerald Hines planned to develop a small city on a platform over the rail yard. And there was talk of building a new Phillies ballpark there. Jerry Sweeney, chief executive of Brandywine, based in Newtown Square, said his company is taking a more sensible approach. "We're starting with something that will fit into a much larger whole that can be developed later, rather than starting with a large whole and trying to figure out where to start," he said. Brandywine has two years to begin construction on the property, which it would lease from Amtrak for 99 years, Sweeney said. He would not disclose the terms of the deal. While Brandywine has not yet signed a lead tenant for the building, Sweeney expressed confidence that his company can line up enough tenants to justify beginning construction next year. This would put the building, called Cira Centre, in the competition for major Center City tenants like Comcast Corp., now in Centre Square, and Cigna Corp., now in Two Liberty Place. Both have major leases expiring in 2006. The building would replace the western third of the parking deck on Arch Street on the north side of the station. A new covered walkway would link the building to the foyer that serves SEPTA's commuter trains. Amtrak also has signed an agreement with Berwind Property Group of Philadelphia to build a 1,500-car parking garage adjacent to the new building. The balance of the existing parking deck will be refurbished as a landscaped entrance plaza, with some parking, for the new building and parking garage. Occupants of the building could catch a train to Washington, New York City, Boston or Harrisburg -- or to Center City, the suburbs and airport -- without going outdoors. Cira is the second new building being planned for Center City. Liberty Property Trust of Malvern plans to start construction in August on a 52-story, 1.2 million square foot tower, One Pennsylvania Plaza, next to Suburban Station, on John F. Kennedy Boulevard at 17th Street. Sweeney said there's room for both new buildings. "They will add only five percent to the Center City market," he said. Both buildings are designed by deans of the Yale University School of Architecture. Pelli, a native of Argentina, served in that role from 1977 to 1984. Robert A.M. Stern, architect on One Pennsylvania Plaza, has been dean since 1998. The Brandywine project is part of a nationwide Amtrak effort to earn revenue from its real estate, with an emphasis on projects that increase ridership. The 30th Street Station site is in a Keystone Opportunity Zone, a development-promoting program launched by then-Gov. Tom Ridge. This allows tenants to avoid paying several city and state taxes through 2013. KOZ benefits also mean Brandywine can charge rental rates around $ 35 per foot annually, "which is competitive with the stay-put cost" prospective tenants face in renewing leases, Sweeney said. Like rival One Pennsylvania Place, Cira Centre will have many safety features developed since 9/11. Fire escape stairways will be wider, outside air vents can be closed quickly, parking beneath the building will be secured and fire sprinkler systems will be more robust, Sweeney said. With its imposing presence at the western edge of the Center City skyline, and high visibility from the Schuykill Expressway, Sweeney said the building will appeal to "tenants who want to make a statement." Sweeney said it will also appeal -- with its location on an interstate highway and both regional and inter-city rail lines -- to those who need access to the widest array of employees. The building will also be on the transit loop that serves the nearby University of Pennsylvania and Drexel University. Brandywine, traded on the New York Stock Exchange, owns 301 office and industrial properties, with a total of 20.4 million square feet, virtually all of them in the Philadelphia suburbs. The company is moving its headquarters this month from Newtown Square to Plymouth Meeting. With 1,300 companies already leasing space in its buildings and a 25 percent of the region's office market, Sweeney said, "we have tremendous access to the deal flow. We're confident that the region needs this high-level addition ... that the market will support delivering this building at a profit for our shareholders." - ----- To see more of The Philadelphia Inquirer, or to subscribe to the newspaper, go to http://www.philly.com ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 13:53:28 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Hopkinton, MA From the Boston Daily News... The Old Railroad Station: Historic landmark emerges from retirement By Cathy Flynn Tuesday, May 7, 2002 For half a century, the former Hopkinton railroad station has lived in obscurity behind a Pond Street home. The building's faded red exterior, decaying roof and aging wood floor only hint at its glory days as a passenger depot on Main Street, at the site where Hopkinton Lumber is today. But if the Historical Commission's vision is realized, this historic landmark will get a new life near Ice House Pond as a tourist information center and shelter for ice skaters in the winter. The old station took its first steps out of retirement last weekend, when a crew dismantled it and loaded it onto a flatbed truck for a journey to Weston Nurseries, which will store the structure until it can be moved to Ice House Pond. "The station would go where the bus shelter is now, at the site where the ice house once was," said Michelle Gates of the Historical Commission. "We're hoping to have a tourist information center on one side, with bus schedules, hiking maps, old photos and information from area nonprofits. On the other side, we'll have benches for people putting on their skates." A team of people on the Historical Commission, many of them also members of the Hopkinton Historical Society, has begun planning the depot's renaissance. Gates' husband, Mark, an architect, has developed site plans and a rendering of how the relocated building would look. Others on the team include Roger and Marilyn Mezzitt, Ron Yankee and Rose Leveille. "We want to save this building," said Leveille. "It's part of our history." Gates said reconstructing and restoring the building will require volunteers and money, more money than the $12,000 the town allocated for the project last fall at a special Town Meeting. The Conservation Commission must approve the project since the new site is within 100 feet of a wetlands area, and Hopkinton Building Inspector Dick Bowker must also review the plans and check the restored building to ensure that it meets today's codes. The Historical Commission is hoping for some help from Scouting groups and other volunteers, and from Home Depot, which has a program that provides free materials for restorations of historically significant buildings. Built in 1872, the old passenger rail station was in service for about 40 years. Its last role was as a stop in a loop service that took travelers by rail from Boston to Framingham, Ashland, Hopkinton, Milford, Bellingham, Franklin, Walpole and Readville before heading back to Boston. The train service was abandoned in 1912, and in the early 1950s the station was relocated to 110 Pond St., behind a home built in 1843. Back then the property was the Leman dairy farm, and a herdsman lived in the house. The old station took its place next to a creamery, pump house and barn, all antique structures that are still part of the property. Longtime Hopkinton residents remember the day when the station was moved to Pond Street. "I worked on a milk truck with my older brother, and we'd take raw milk from Maplewood Farm on Hayden Rowe to the Leman Farm creamery to have it pasteurized," recalled Bowker, who was 12 years old when the building was moved. "That part of Pond Street used to be called Tunnel Road, and I remember taking the truck up Tunnel Road and seeing this massive building on the road in front of us." Bowker said that he and his brother backed up the truck all the way to West Elm Street so that they could reroute their delivery. The ensuing years were not kind to the old station. Weather and nesting squirrels had faded its red paint and pockmarked and disfigured its roof. Its resurrection began when the Sweetapple family, which bought the former herdsman's residence several years ago and has added onto it, needed more back yard space but wanted to preserve the historic building. Family members approached the Historical Commission last year about adopting the building, and the commission wholeheartedly accepted. The commission pitched the project at a special Town Meeting last fall, and the result was a $12,000 grant from the town. Last weekend a crew from Architectural Resources, a firm that specializes in restoring older buildings, was carefully taking apart the aging structure. Because it would not fit under the Rte. 495 overpass, the building had to be taken apart and laid flat. Over two days the crew carefully removed the roof and the 4-foot overhang around the building, then separated the walls of the structure at the corners. Working in Saturday's heavy winds, the crew removed the roof carefully to avoid creating an air pocket that could have blown over the fragile structure. Some planks were removed individually and numbered so they may be put back together in the future. "The roof was a mess, but the subflooring was in perfect shape," said Architectural Resources owner John Canham. The interior walls, built from yellow pine, also aged well and can be part of the restoration. The walls were laid flat on a truck, which moved under a special permit for oversized loads to Weston Nurseries. It's uncertain when the structure will emerge from storage and move to its new home at Ice House Pond, although Gates is hoping it can move there in the fall. The house must be reconstructed and restored wall by wall, and that will require money and time. Anyone interested in helping to restore the former railroad station or in donating money toward the restoration should contact Michelle Gates at 508-435-8288. Donations may be mailed to the Historical Commission at Town Hall, 18 Main St. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #369 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003f01c1f744$8db37630$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 06:30:34 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Philadelphia, MS Architectural work to start on rail depot By MITCH LUCAS The Neshoba Democrat reporter An architect is to perform a formal evaluation of the old railroad depot this week, continuing recent efforts to restore the building for public use. The depot, almost 100 years old, also recently achieved state landmark status, the director of the city's Main Street program said Monday. Civic leaders, including Main Street director Stacy Pair, Mayor Rayburn Waddell and economic developer David Vowell, are scheduled to meet with the architect, Sam Kaye, on Wednesday afternoon. Kaye will listen to ideas on the building, and begin an extensive evaluation. Among the possibilities suggested for the depot: A welcome center; office space for the Main Street program and the Community Development Partnership, a recently-formed civic improvement association; and a small exhibit hall. The most likely use, said the mayor, is a combination of all three. "Certainly we would like to have something there that will be both useful for our folks, and something we can all be proud of," Waddell said. Kaye, who is from Columbus, performs similar evaluations for the state's Main Street Association on a regular basis and conducted a brief, unofficial evaluation of the depot here last year. He told The Neshoba Democrat that the building is in good condition, and while rehabilitation work will be needed, would be an asset to the community. Kaye told Pair that his early estimate for renovation of the depot would be around $200,000. "In any case, the depot is a significant historic element in Philadelphia," he said. The city purchased the depot in March for $125,000 from local developer Gaston Barrett. At its first meeting in April, the Board of Aldermen passed a resolution requesting that the depot be named a state landmark. Pair was surprised to find out last week that the resolution basically made the landmark status official. "I was a little surprised to find out it was that simple, but I think the reason for that is because there is so much interest in it at the (state's) Department of Archives and History," she said. "I don't know that it's common that everyone is approved so quickly." Waddell said one reason for the quick approval for landmark designation is because the Philadelphia depot is the last depot still located on the route between Mobile, Ala., and Jackson, Tenn. Many of the depots are still intact, but have been moved from their original sites. "I think they're as fired up as we are about getting the building restored," Waddell said. Along with the resolution, the city also submitted photos of the building's exterior, interior and a legal description of the historic property, as recorded in county deed records. The resolution, as passed by the board, stated that the depot possesses "substantial and important historic, aesthetic, architectural, scenic and cultural character" and that the board desires to preserve the structure for future generations. The depot was constructed here by the Mobile, Jackson and Kansas City Railroad in 1905. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004501c1f745$9c400550$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 06:38:08 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Petaluma, CA Photo link: http://www.nwprrhs.org/petaluma112.jpg (1908 photo) Move toward railroad depot lease for city By CHIP MCAULEY, ARGUS-COURIER STAFF Petaluma will be stepping all aboard a renovation of the city's railroad depot if all goes well. On Monday the Petaluma Community Development Commission (PCDC), AKA the Petaluma City Council, unanimously voted to approve a resolution to start negotiations with the Northwestern Pacific Railroad Authority (NWPRA) to obtain a right of entry permit with options to lease the Petaluma depot buildings. The permit could be granted by July 15. Located on Lakeville Street between East Washington and D streets, the site includes three buildings dating to 1914. The area is meant to be a focal point of the Central Petaluma Specific plan which hopes to revitalize the area. Paul Marangella, director of economic development and redevelopment, noted that the site could have important civic, social, and non-profit uses. He recommended obtaining the permit with lease option. Other options were beginning direct lease negotiations or deferring the consideration of the depot lease. "We thought it more prudent to work with the railroad under a short term lease," said Marangella. The buildings could have a number of uses, including being a hub for the SMART (Sonoma Marin Area Rail Transit) commuter train system. At present no alternative was presented for leasing the entire six acre site. One caveat in the approval is it will include the option for a long-term lease for the city. The estimated cost for the project is currently $2, 750,000. This covers $1,900, 000 of renovation, $500,000 for parking and access, and $350,000 for landscaping. With a potential $2.2 million coming from Sonoma County Transit in fiscal year 2003 from federal transportation funding, the city would only be required to match 20 percent of the cost or $550,000. Funds earmarked for implementation as part of the Central Petaluma Specific Plan could also come from the redevelopment agency itself. Councilmember Pamela Torliatt voiced her support for an equal opportunity occupancy selection for the facilities. "I want to make sure that it's an open process in that selection," she said, noting interest by SMART, the Chamber of Commerce and the Visitors Bureau in the area. Councilmember Mike Healy called it a "very exciting project for the community," and said approving the right of entry was likely to jump-start the implementation of the Central Petaluma Specific Plan. (Contact Chip McAuley at cmcauley_@_argus courier.com) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++ High hopes for dilapidated railroad depot Federal funds could pay for repairs, retrofit, helping city create public center April 12, 2002 By TOBIAS YOUNG THE PRESS DEMOCRAT Petaluma's historic railroad depot, sitting in a weed-covered lot along tracks that haven't felt the rumble of a train for months, is crumbling from sheer neglect. But the old depot building -- a victim of tough financial times in the railroad business -- may be saved from the wrecking ball. Mayor Clark Thompson calls the depot "a diamond presently in the rough" that would be key in a plan to rejuvenate the central city area. A plan to renovate the building for community use is picking up steam, with the potential of a $2.2 million federal grant. The money that would restore the depot building comes from the same federal transportation pot that has been approved for restoring or building railroad depots in Cotati, Windsor, Healdsburg and Cloverdale at a cost of about $2 million each. "We've had pretty good success in recent years with these projects," said Bryan Albee, the Sonoma County transit systems manager who applied for the grant. Petaluma would have to come up with another $550,000 in matching funds from its redevelopment agency. The depot, built in 1914, sits in the heart of an area designated for transformation from a largely vacant warehouse district along the river into a bustling, pedestrian-friendly center of commerce with a mix of housing, shops and offices and a rail and bus transit hub. Paul Marangella, city director of redevelopment, said a restored depot may help spur investment in the district. It would also create a space that could be used for a community conference room holding about 200 people and potentially new offices for the Petaluma Area Chamber of Commerce, the Petaluma Downtown Association and the Petaluma Visitors Center. Thompson said he supports the restoration concept and the building's possible uses, but the City Council hasn't formally discussed the proposal yet. "It would be a great use," Thompson said. "It will be a destination. We'll be wanting to bring people to that area anyway." The alternative is allowing the depot to deteriorate or losing it to another operator when the railroad resumes service, Marangella said. "You don't want to lose the depot," Thompson said. Although Albee has had success obtaining funds for the railroad depot projects, and one was restored in 1999 in Cloverdale, he said the funds are not assured. "At this point in time it's just a request," Albee said. The money would have to be approved by Congress and President Bush as part of the federal budget. The money would go to replace the leaking roof and restore the depot's inside and outside. The building also needs a costly earthquake retrofit. Part of the building was used as an office for the former railroad operators six months ago. Marangella said the city must act to obtain the depot while the railroad is not in operation, or risk losing it to a new operator. Because the land was purchased with federal money, the railroad would have to repay the government if it sold the property outright to the city. So Marangella is seeking a long-term lease instead. The Northwestern Pacific Railroad Authority tentatively endorsed the concept in January, Marangella said. The depot would also serve as a place for commuters to wait for a passenger train, if one is eventually developed as envisioned by the Sonoma Marin Area Rail Transit Authority. You can reach Staff Writer Tobias Young at 762-9498 or tyoung_@_pressdemocrat.com. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00ac01c1f769$6e901e50$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 10:54:33 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Rensselaer, NY Rail station on track so far Albany CDTA doesn't have a date for a ribbon- cutting, but a celebration is in the works By CATHY WOODRUFF, Staff writer It's hard to plan a party when the date is a moving target, but the Capital District Transportation Authority is giving it a try. CDTA officials are adamant that the oft-delayed opening of the Rensselaer Rail Station will be sometime in June. They just won't name the day."We want to open it, but it has to be right,'' said CDTA Operations Committee Chairman Wayne Pratt. "Everything has to be ready to go.''The project originally was slated to open in early 2001, and the authority is loath to set a firmer date after finally settling on a June 2002 opening months ago and sticking with it this far."The problem is each time we set a date, if we don't hit it people say, 'They didn't hit it again.' It's very difficult,'' Pratt said.CDTA board members also are still smarting from the furor over the cost, which soared from $35 million when ground was broken June 1999 to $53.1 million.On Wednesday, the board authorized the CDTA staff to work with event planners from Media Logic, an advertising and marketing agency that does much of the authority's regular publicity work, to help plan and carry out opening celebration festivities."Although we're accustomed to organizing ribbon-cuttings and some special events, this is a bit large for us,'' Executive Director Dennis Fitzgerald said.The board also authorized CDTA staff to begin talks on a possible takeover of Saratoga County's privately run commuter bus service.Board members Donald MacElroy and C. Michael Ingersoll, both of Saratoga County, said county supervisors asked them to broach the idea. "We've reached a crossroads with regard to the future of the Park-and-Ride program and Upstate Transit's operation of that service,'' MacElroy said.Last month, Upstate Transit President Paul Kulls asked the county to begin paying $80,000 a year toward operations."The county just isn't in a position to subsidize the public transportation business, and they want us to do that,'' Ingersoll said. Saratoga County residents already receive some CDTA service and help support the authority with their mortgage tax payments. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3CDAD412.FA34CAD9_@_nac.net> Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 15:54:57 -0400 From: Dave Rutan Subject: (rshsdepot) Station Plans: Lehigh & Hudson, Andover Junction, NJ http://sussexbranchmemorial.com/Modeling/Plans/AJ/aj.html I have just completed the drawings for the cottage-style Andover Junction Passenger station. This station saw many Lackawanna Sussex Branch trains stop and pick up passengers from the Lehigh & Hudson into the 1930s. It burned down in 1946 and was then replaced by the square shack which predominated until about 1976. Enjoy, Dave Rutan - -- DL&W Sussex Branch Memorial http://SussexBranchMemorial.com Monomania can be a good thing ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <014501c1f794$c2c586b0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 16:04:43 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Bellmore, NY Photo link: http://arrts-arrchives.nstemp.com/images/acquired2.jpg (original station) From "Along the Track" employee newsletter of the Long Island Rail Road Bellmore: Functional and Attractive Our current Bellmore Station, built in 1969 during the grade separation project that elevated the Babylon Branch through the area, was, up until recently, a functional and efficient -- but modest -- facility. Now, its functionality and efficiency have been enhanced by an appealing makeover. In a recently completed rehabilitation project, the station exterior was improved with a new stucco-like finish, replacing the 1960s-era blue-glazed brick, making it more aesthetically compatible with architecture of the surround Village. Wainscoting was added around the foundation, and green trim around the top of the building provides an architectural cornice. New doors and windows grace the entranceway, with enhanced exterior lighting around the building provided by decorative, antique-style fixtures. A classic Long Island Rail Road keystone herald over the doors complete the look. The plaza area around the station also received a sprucing up, with the installation of brick pavers, new benches, new trash receptacles, upgraded lighting under the viaduct throughout the plaza, new landscaping, improved sidewalks, new vintage-style payphone kiosks, a new roll-up door for the vendor kiosk, and new Customer Information Center bulletin boards. In addition, a handsome wooden carved sign, with goldleaf-style lettering was installed over Bedford Avenue. In keeping with the town's recent focus on its history -- including new historical markers throughout the village -- the sign proclaims "Bellmore Village: A Stroll Down Memory Lane." Site work was completed a full six months ahead of schedule, with beneficial use achieved in February -- giving our customers an attractive "new" facility even before they expected it. Support for this $600,000 project was provided by Capital Program Review Board funding, with nearly all of the work carried out by various LIRR personnel in Engineering, including B&B and Electric Light & Power. The current station is the second to serve Bellmore. The first was built in 1869 by the South Side Railroad; it became an LIRR station in 1876 when the South Side was merged into our system. Modernized several times over the years -- including the addition of a stucco exterior and Spanish tile roof -- it remained in use until January 1969, when it was removed during the grade separation project. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 16:21:20 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Maywood, NJ According to reports on the NYS&W list and from a local paper, the NYS&W depot in Maywood is in danger of being torn down= Unless a buyer is found the building will be torn down - maybe as soon as next month as the town wants the depot remov= ed prior to July 4th. The depot had been a VFW hall. After the VFW left the the depot has fallen into a state of disrepair. The town owns the= depot. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #370 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <01c701c1f80b$dac3d380$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:17:13 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Bowling Green, KY Photo link: http://www.burgoo.com/tl&ncard.jpg (old postcard view) Rail heritage gets its stage Railfest 2002 begins Friday at former depot By Scott Sisco, ssisco_@_bgdailynews.com -- 270-783-3256 Daily News Bowling Green's railroad heritage will be on display this weekend at the former L&N Depot. Railfest will be a "celebration of all things rail," according to Historic Railroad Committee member Rick Williams. The event begins with a luncheon Friday aboard one of the railroad cars that will be on permanent display outside the depot. The meal, served on the dining car, will be prepared with authentic railroad recipes. Tickets are $50 and Williams said there were about a dozen left Wednesday. "It's going to be very, very nice," Williams said. Proceeds will help restore the railroad cars, committee member Dorian Walker said. The rest of the events are free to the public. "We're going to need lots of volunteers to bring this dream to life," he said. "We want these things to look like, when they're finished, like they just rolled off the assembly line." The dining car that was used on the Southern Pacific Railroad will be repainted in official L&N colors and renamed "Duncan Hines" in honor of the famous former Bowling Green resident. Other rail cars in the display will include a caboose, L&N Presidential Car No. 353 and the "Towering Pine" - a former L&N Railroad Sleeper. "You can actually experience living history," Walker said. Activities begin at 2 p.m. Friday and will include games, face painting, clowns and food. Police cars, fire trucks and ambulances will be on display for children to see. A model railroad and information booths will be set up in the lobby. Williams said it will be like a street festival, only centered on the rail. There also will be rail car tours. "We've gotten a little paint on some of them and cleaned them up a little, but we've got a long way to go," Williams said. At 4 p.m. Friday, the Bowling Green Chamber of Commerce will drive the ceremonial Golden Spike on the project. Bluegrass bands will take the stage after the ceremony. The Blue Stone Mountain Band, Joe Marshall & Rovin Ramblers and Logan County Grass will perform. Williams said the former depot, which opened a year ago as Kentucky's first digital library, will be developed as a tourist stop. "We envision this as a link to the past as well as the future," Williams said. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004101c1f869$54b77bd0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 17:26:21 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Woodland, CA Link: http://www.trainweb.org/svhr/depot/depot.htm (Woodland Depot Web site) Transit hub idea meets skepticism Council puts brakes on $100,000 study for East Main Street By SHARON STELLO, Woodland Daily Democrat staff writer Woodland's council put the brakes on plans to study the potential for building a transportation hub at the eastern entrance of downtown. The city's Redevelopment Agency had proposed the up-to-$100,000 study to examine whether a transit center should and could be built in the Armfield neighborhood on land bounded by Lemen Avenue, East Main, East and E streets. It had wanted to evaluate up to three sites for possible relocation of the existing Yolo Bus park-and-ride lot at County Fair Mall. The proposed transit hub would also involve relocating the abandoned Southern Pacific Railroad Depot from its location west of East Street to the Armfield site to provide space for a ticket office, history museum and passenger waiting area for Yolo Bus, Greyhound Bus and Yolo Shortline rail excursions. A park-and-ride area could also be built on the property. Now the Armfield property includes boxcar storage for the Yolo Shortline Railroad, a residential development, commercial and light industrial activity such as a convenience store, automobile repair shop and a cement batch plant as well as a county-owned storage facility. From May to October each year, the area also serves as a boarding area for Yolo Shortline weekend rail excursions between Woodland and West Sacramento. A County Housing Authority project is to the north and the new PCP tomato processing center lies to east. Redevelopment Manager Wendy Ross said the transit center project was derailed by a previous City Council because of opposition to having to relocate long-time residents in the area. A new study of the proposed transit hub would be paid for with $88,530 in federal transportation money and an $11,470 Community Development Block Grant. In February, the Redevelopment Agency Board of Directors, which is the City Council, authorized city staff to look for transportation planning consultants to complete the study. The Community Development Department recommended hiring Parsons-Brinckerhoff Quade and Douglas Inc. in association with Bay Area Economics and Montoya Communications Inc. to do the study. On Tuesday, councilmembers were reluctant to jump into the study and decided to take a step back to re-evaluate their vision for the area during a later meeting. Vice Mayor Matt Rexroad expressed concerns about the city developing the property rather than allowing private enterprise to build it up. Ross explained the project would involve the city working with private investors in a partnership to develop the transit center. Councilman Jeff Monroe said he believes the city should find a partner before entering into the study phase. "Here's another study with no partnership," Monroe said. Mayor Dave Flory agreed there's no guarantee a private firm would want to join onto the project after the study is completed. "We're always hoping we're going to have a player that's going to join our team and hit a home run," Flory said. "What we say is the best use is not necessarily what an investor will say is the best use." Councilman Neal Peart was absent from the meeting and Councilwoman Martie Dote supported having the study completed. "This is an opportunity to use transportation money in a planning mode, which is not always available," Dote said. "I can understand wanting to have a partner first, but it's kind of a chicken and egg thing and I'm not sure if we're going to see an egg first or a chicken," Dote said. City Manager Richard Kirkwood said the Armfield property is a "very blighted area" and he views the proposed study as a way to create a vision for that part of the community. But, Kirkwood advised councilmembers to take a step back and consider returning the federal money if they don't envision a transit-oriented hub in the Armfield location. The council decided to explore the proposed study and project in more depth at a later meeting. - - Sharon Stello can be reached at 406-6231 or sstello_@_dailydemocrat.com ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #371 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002101c1f8fd$0cc5f9c0$e5453b41_@_oemcomputer> References: <002801c1f67a$52bf3430$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 15:03:43 -0000 From: "Gene Paoli" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) 30th Street Station, Philadelphia, PA I hate to break the news but there already is a 14 story PRR office building at 32nd and Lancaster ave built in 1911 and extant. The building resides on the former site of Joseph Miller Wilson's PRR Centennial station opened in 1876 destroyed in 1906. The power house shown in the arial photo's was designed and constructed by United Engineers as were several other PRR warehouses and frieght buildings in Philadelphia. Sounds like the new office building may be constructed on the former Frank Heyling Furness 1907 PRR West Philadelphia station site. Gene Paoli - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernie Wagenblast To: Rail Depot List Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:22 AM Subject: (rshsdepot) 30th Street Station, Philadelphia, PA > Photo links: > http://www.prrths.com/Phila_Images_PP8.htm (aerial view) > http://www.prrths.com/Phila_Images_PP5.htm (aerial view) > http://www.nrhs.com/natdir/spring01/30th-interior.jpg (interior view) > Realty Trust Plans 32-Story Office Building at Philadelphia Amtrak Station > Cira Centre would be constructed next to 30th Street Station starting next > year. The opening is scheduled for late in 2005. > > Philadelphia Inquirer...05/08/2002 > > By Henry J. Holcomb > > The region's top suburban office landlord is making a major move in the > city. > > Brandywine Realty Trust will unveil plans this morning for a 32-story office > building, designed by renowned architect Cesar Pelli, that it says will be > under construction next year at Amtrak's 30th Street Station, and open in > late 2005. > > Pelli, best known for his work on the world's tallest buildings, the > Petronas Towers in Kuala Lampur, has designed a prism-shaped, silvery glass > structure. > > "It will take on the quality of the sky ... with its many facets reflecting > different parts of the sky, it will sparkle," said Pelli associate Mark > Shoemaker. > > This is a much smaller-scale development than others that have proposed for > the site. In the 1980s, Houston developer Gerald Hines planned to develop a > small city on a platform over the rail yard. And there was talk of building > a new Phillies ballpark there. > > Jerry Sweeney, chief executive of Brandywine, based in Newtown Square, said > his company is taking a more sensible approach. "We're starting with > something that will fit into a much larger whole that can be developed > later, rather than starting with a large whole and trying to figure out > where to start," he said. > > Brandywine has two years to begin construction on the property, which it > would lease from Amtrak for 99 years, Sweeney said. He would not disclose > the terms of the deal. > > While Brandywine has not yet signed a lead tenant for the building, Sweeney > expressed confidence that his company can line up enough tenants to justify > beginning construction next year. > > This would put the building, called Cira Centre, in the competition for > major Center City tenants like Comcast Corp., now in Centre Square, and > Cigna Corp., now in Two Liberty Place. Both have major leases expiring in > 2006. > > The building would replace the western third of the parking deck on Arch > Street on the north side of the station. A new covered walkway would link > the building to the foyer that serves SEPTA's commuter trains. > > Amtrak also has signed an agreement with Berwind Property Group of > Philadelphia to build a 1,500-car parking garage adjacent to the new > building. > > The balance of the existing parking deck will be refurbished as a landscaped > entrance plaza, with some parking, for the new building and parking garage. > > Occupants of the building could catch a train to Washington, New York City, > Boston or Harrisburg -- or to Center City, the suburbs and airport -- > without going outdoors. > > Cira is the second new building being planned for Center City. Liberty > Property Trust of Malvern plans to start construction in August on a > 52-story, 1.2 million square foot tower, One Pennsylvania Plaza, next to > Suburban Station, on John F. Kennedy Boulevard at 17th Street. > > Sweeney said there's room for both new buildings. "They will add only five > percent to the Center City market," he said. > > Both buildings are designed by deans of the Yale University School of > Architecture. Pelli, a native of Argentina, served in that role from 1977 to > 1984. Robert A.M. Stern, architect on One Pennsylvania Plaza, has been dean > since 1998. > > The Brandywine project is part of a nationwide Amtrak effort to earn revenue > from its real estate, with an emphasis on projects that increase ridership. > > The 30th Street Station site is in a Keystone Opportunity Zone, a > development-promoting program launched by then-Gov. Tom Ridge. This allows > tenants to avoid paying several city and state taxes through 2013. > > KOZ benefits also mean Brandywine can charge rental rates around $ 35 per > foot annually, "which is competitive with the stay-put cost" prospective > tenants face in renewing leases, Sweeney said. > > Like rival One Pennsylvania Place, Cira Centre will have many safety > features developed since 9/11. Fire escape stairways will be wider, outside > air vents can be closed quickly, parking beneath the building will be > secured and fire sprinkler systems will be more robust, Sweeney said. > > With its imposing presence at the western edge of the Center City skyline, > and high visibility from the Schuykill Expressway, Sweeney said the building > will appeal to "tenants who want to make a statement." > > Sweeney said it will also appeal -- with its location on an interstate > highway and both regional and inter-city rail lines -- to those who need > access to the widest array of employees. > > The building will also be on the transit loop that serves the nearby > University of Pennsylvania and Drexel University. > > Brandywine, traded on the New York Stock Exchange, owns 301 office and > industrial properties, with a total of 20.4 million square feet, virtually > all of them in the Philadelphia suburbs. > > The company is moving its headquarters this month from Newtown Square to > Plymouth Meeting. > > With 1,300 companies already leasing space in its buildings and a 25 percent > of the region's office market, Sweeney said, "we have tremendous access to > the deal flow. We're confident that the region needs this high-level > addition ... that the market will support delivering this building at a > profit for our shareholders." > > > ----- > > To see more of The Philadelphia Inquirer, or to subscribe to the newspaper, > go to http://www.philly.com > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003b01c1f8fe$7afbf9c0$e5453b41_@_oemcomputer> References: <002101c1f380$f14551e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 15:13:58 -0000 From: "Gene Paoli" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA I wonder if the the folks down there know they destroyed the former Illinois Central station designed and built by Frank Lloyd Wright and Louis Sullivan in 1892? Gene Paoli stationman_@_prodigy.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernie Wagenblast To: Rail Depot List Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 3:32 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA > Photo links: > http://www.byrnes.org/railfan/amtrak/image_51.jpg (current station) > http://nutrias.org/~nopl/exhibits/ccmem/union.jpg (station replaced by > current station) > > N.O. Terminal To Become Transportation Central > Facility To Host RTA, Traffic Signal System > > > NEW ORLEANS -- New Orleans' Union Passenger Terminal is being revamped into > a transportation center for the city. > > Until now, freight lines shared the building with passenger traffic, but on > Friday, the freight leases were canceled. > > > In one of his last official actions as mayor, Marc Morial, along with Amtrak > officials, terminated the 50-year freight agreement, giving the city total > control of the station. > > > After some upgrades, it will become the nerve center for operations of the > Regional Transit Authority and the city's automated traffic signal system. > > It also may eventually serve as a remote airport terminal. > > > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000b01c1f8ff$c02b59e0$e5453b41_@_oemcomputer> References: Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 15:23:04 -0000 From: "Gene Paoli" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Grafton, WV The Grafton, Wv B&O station was designed by noted New York architect Mourice A. Long. Long also designed B&O's Wheeling, WV station as well as a B&O warehouse in New York, Philadelphia B&O renovations to Chestnut st and P&R's terminal, and several other railroad projects. Gene Paoli stationman_@_prodigy.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) Grafton, WV From Railpace... GRAFTON CELEBRATION: A celebration commemorating 150 years of railroad history in Grafton, West Virginia will be held between Thursday July 4 and Sunday July 7 and will be centered around Grafton's downtown area, which is located immediately north of the railroad. It will include displays of railroad artifacts and model railroads, as well at food, craft and gift vendors throughout the weekend. There will be a parade on the evening of July 4 and fireworks that night, a Civil War reanactment on July 6, and musical presentations on July 4-6. The former-B&O passenger station is in the process of being renovated; and It is anticipated that its first floor will be open to the public at some point during the celebration. On July 6, various railroad photographers will present slide shows of B&O and CSXT railroad operations in Grafton and on the four lines that radiate from Grafton. The guest of honor, Alan F. Crown, CSXT's Executive Vice President-Transportation, will be present on July 5. CSXT's general office building complex will be open to the public between 1:00 p.m. and 5:00 p.m. on July 4. There will be a ceremony dedicating the new office building; and the railroad will provide refreshments. Various locomotives will be positioned for visitors to view and photograph. Inquiries regarding the celebration should be directed to the office of Grafton's city manager ( 304-265-1412 ) or the Taylor County Historical Society (304-265-5549). (Jay Potter - posted 5/07) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . =========== The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001101c1f900$6bd93dc0$e5453b41_@_oemcomputer> References: Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 15:27:52 -0000 From: "Gene Paoli" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Quakertown, PA The Quakertown depot and frieght station were designed by the Wilson Brothers & Company of Philidelphia as well as the Lansdale, PA P&R station and frieght depot which is a carbon copy of Quakertown's. (ref: Phila engr&bldg record) Gene Paoli stationman_@_prodigy.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) Quakertown, PA From the Philadelphia Intelligencer... Grant will help spruce up train station Plans call for the $100,000 to help repair the outside of the freight building. BY BRIAN CALLAWAY Staff Writer QUAKERTOWN -Another $100,000 has been awarded for the renovation of the Quakertown Train Station. The federal grant will be used to repair the exterior of the freight building, while previously secured funding will be used this year to remodel the train station proper, located at the intersection of Broad and Front streets. "We've been working on this for a long time," said Richard Mindler, president of the Quakertown Train Station Historical Society, "so it's great to see this all coming in." The $100,000 will go toward cleaning the outside walls and replacing the roof on the 2,500-square-foot freight station. Mindler said the group is also preparing to go out to bid on train station projects to be paid for with a $600,000 grant received in 2000. Those projects include roof repairs and the installation of new sidewalks and windows. When completed, plans call for the 100-year-old station to have several historical displays, a community meeting area and other attractions. The funding for both grants comes from the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century, administered by the Federal Transit Administration. The new grant was good news for more than just the historical society. "We're really excited that they got it," said Pam Coleman, manager of the downtown economic initiative Quakertown Alive!, which has worked with the society to secure other funding. "The train station is a vital piece of our revitalization -it's spreading revitalization around it. "It's a good expenditure of federal funds." Passenger service to the station stopped in 1983. It was then used for community functions for several years, but a 1989 fire gutted the building and left it largely unusable. Since 1990, the Quakertown Train Station Historical Society has held fund-raisers and lobbied for grants to get the station back in tiptop condition, a state Mindler said was finally within reach. "We were hoping to have everything ready this year for the centennial," he said. Instead, the work should be done this fall in time for the borough's annual Autumn Alive! festival. "But as long as it will be done at some point -great, bring it on." - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . =========== The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3CDD7714.6060905_@_bellsouth.net> References: <002101c1f380$f14551e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> <003b01c1f8fe$7afbf9c0$e5453b41@oemcomputer> Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 15:55:00 -0400 From: Seth Bramson Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA Gene Paoli wrote: >I wonder if the the folks down there know they destroyed the former Illinois >Central station designed and built by Frank Lloyd Wright and Louis Sullivan >in 1892? > >>>Gene: Pls elaborate. I have all of the negs of the great James G. LaVake, who was an EAL pilot and a big time rail buff and photog (the Richard Steinheimer or Donald Duke of the east) and who shot the L & N station in N. O. and, I think the S. P. as well as the NOUPT in various stages of construction. Where, exactly, was the IC station? I did not realize it was still extant, or did I misunderstand your post? Again, pls fill us in. > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000501c1f952$eb3a3720$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 21:18:26 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Livingstone, MT Link: http://www.livingstonmuseums.org/depot/ (information & photos) Depot's century celebration set LIVINGSTON - The Livingston Depot's 100th birthday celebration will kick off Saturday, May 25, with the unveiling of original artwork and a preview of the museum. Hors d'oeuvres and refreshments will be served, and music will be provided by Bob Frisby and his Pretty Good String Band. The party begins at 6 p.m. and costs $25 per person for depot members and $30 per person for nonmembers. The celebration continues Sunday, May 26. Lunch will be at noon from a Northern Pacific bill of fare menu, organized by Julee Sievers and the Sister City's Exchange Group. The meal costs $12 for adults and $8 for children and seniors. Music Sunday will include performances by the Alta Camaraden brass band from Red Lodge; The Doodle Dandies, a barbershop quartet from Bozeman; Saddlebags from Bozeman; and Paul Gates and the Park High Band. The Blue Slipper acting troupe will perform a reenactment of the original ceremony presenting the City of Livingston with this building. Activities at the kids' fair include a bean-bag toss, cupcake walk, bottle ring toss, face painting, grab bags, magic tricks and Go Fish. Livingston's Railroad workers will be honored with the presentation of Minnetonka Steam Engines. Birthday cake will be served at 3 p.m., at which time the Museum will be opened for a free public perusal. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001301c1f9c2$b3a39b60$f7c7d63f_@_oemcomputer> References: <002101c1f380$f14551e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> <003b01c1f8fe$7afbf9c0$e5453b41@oemcomputer> <3CDD7714.6060905@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:38:34 -0000 From: "Gene Paoli" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA I was under the impression that the IC station was replaced by the "current station", which according to the picture provided, did not resemble Sullivan's & Wright's station. Maybe I did not get the post I responded to correctly? Untill that post, I was under the understanding the station was still extant. I'll check into it asap. Gene Paoli - ----- Original Message ----- From: Seth Bramson To: Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA > Gene Paoli wrote: > > >I wonder if the the folks down there know they destroyed the former Illinois > >Central station designed and built by Frank Lloyd Wright and Louis Sullivan > >in 1892? > > > >>>Gene: > Pls elaborate. I have all of the negs of the great James G. LaVake, who > was an EAL pilot and a big time rail buff and photog (the Richard > Steinheimer or Donald Duke of the east) and who shot the L & N station > in N. O. and, I think the S. P. as well as the NOUPT in various stages > of construction. Where, exactly, was the IC station? I did not realize > it was still extant, or did I misunderstand your post? Again, pls fill > us in. > > > > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3CDECE8C.8010209_@_bellsouth.net> References: <002101c1f380$f14551e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> <003b01c1f8fe$7afbf9c0$e5453b41@oemcomputer> <3CDD7714.6060905@bellsouth.net> <001301c1f9c2$b3a39b60$f7c7d63f@oemcomputer> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 16:20:28 -0400 From: Seth Bramson Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA Gene Paoli wrote: >I was under the impression that the IC station was replaced by the "current >station", which according to the picture provided, did not resemble >Sullivan's & Wright's station. Maybe I did not get the post I responded to >correctly? Untill that post, I was under the understanding the station was >still extant. I'll check into it asap. > >>>Thanks, Gene, The reason I am asking--not questioning, just asking for clarification--is that I thought there were about four or five stations in N. O. prior to the current NOUPT, which is still a pretty modern looking building, and, essentially, shaped pretty much like a cube (or, at most, at rectangle). I thought, previously, that the stations were "in town" (L&N, for example, was just about the foot of Canal St.) so would appreciate some clarification on this.) > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <011d01c1fa25$275fac80$3edbd23f_@_0019873538> References: <002101c1f380$f14551e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> <003b01c1f8fe$7afbf9c0$e5453b41@oemcomputer> <3CDD7714.6060905@bellsouth.net> <001301c1f9c2$b3a39b60$f7c7d63f@oemcomputer> <3CDECE8C.8010209@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:23:18 -0400 From: "Ulster & Delaware RR HS - President" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA If anyone else has time to go look before I do, I recall that the building of the "new" NOLa Union Passenger Terminal around 1950 was reported in a Trains Magazine of around then, with a map of the then-existing depots and alignments, and the new layout that would result, with a map of then-existing depots, entrances into the city, etc. I didn't know there was a Richardson IC station that was knocked down as part of the process -- it would give NOLa something in common with Boston, where the beautiful Richardson Riverside (Boston suburb) station on the B&A was blown away for the "modernized" MTA commuter line with PCC's that took over the service. I was callow enough when it happened that I saw the pictures and thought it was "progress". As one of our modern bards once said, "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now" . ..(and he and I were both only about 25 when he said that, around 1968. . . ) Steve Delibert - ----- Original Message ----- From: Seth Bramson To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 4:20 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA > Gene Paoli wrote: > > >I was under the impression that the IC station was replaced by the "current > >station", which according to the picture provided, did not resemble > >Sullivan's & Wright's station. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3CDF26B2.4090106_@_bellsouth.net> References: <002101c1f380$f14551e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> <003b01c1f8fe$7afbf9c0$e5453b41@oemcomputer> <3CDD7714.6060905@bellsouth.net> <001301c1f9c2$b3a39b60$f7c7d63f@oemcomputer> <3CDECE8C.8010209@bellsouth.net> <011d01c1fa25$275fac80$3edbd23f@0019873538> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:36:34 -0400 From: Seth Bramson Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA Ulster & Delaware RR HS - President wrote: > If anyone else has time to go look before I do, I recall that the >building of the "new" NOLa Union Passenger Terminal around 1950 was reported >in a Trains Magazine of around then, with a map of the then-existing depots >and alignments, and the new layout that would result, with a map of > >>>I BELIEVE it opened in 1954. Capt. LaVake's negs include the GM&O (or was it still GM&N?) Rebel there as well as the original IC diesel with that huge "nose" as well as some great SP PA shots, but, in any case. I THOUGHT all of the Crescent City's passenger stations were demolished following the opening of NOUPT. Your continued input will be appreciated. > > > > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00b001c1fa2f$e098c600$8767f4d1_@_paul> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 23:39:51 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) IC New Orleans, LA NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser and click/select the index or matching subject link. http://www.railfan.net/lists/mplist.cgi?rshsdepot-photo ICunionNO.jpg (image/jpeg, 4079 bytes) This attachment is a picture of Illinois Central Union, it was found at a Google Image search, the site was no more but they captured the site with this picture and here it is...I can't send the site because it doesn't seem to copy, the URL, I mean, in full from these google pages... The attributions out of the way... This is Union Station, New Orleans, Illinois Central Railroad, 1949. "The Union Passenger Terminal, which opened in May of 1954, now occupies this site and replaced the five scattered depots formerly used by New Orleans rail passengers. The construction of the modern new rail terminal was one of the Morrison administration, which failed, however, to foresee the shift in transportation trends away from rail travel. The UPT has changed little since it opened in 1954 and, as a result, the building has taken on the look of a forgotten time." Credit the photo from 1949 to Louisiana Photograph Collection, Alexander Allison Collection. - -----Original Message----- From: Seth Bramson To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net Date: Sunday, May 12, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA >Gene Paoli wrote: > >>I was under the impression that the IC station was replaced by the "current >>station", which according to the picture provided, did not resemble >>Sullivan's & Wright's station. Maybe I did not get the post I responded to >>correctly? Untill that post, I was under the understanding the station was >>still extant. I'll check into it asap. >> > >>>Thanks, Gene, >The reason I am asking--not questioning, just asking for >clarification--is that I thought there were about four or five stations >in N. O. prior to the current NOUPT, which is still a pretty modern >looking building, and, essentially, shaped pretty much like a cube (or, >at most, at rectangle). I thought, previously, that the stations were >"in town" (L&N, for example, was just about the foot of Canal St.) so >would appreciate some clarification on this.) > >> > > >================================ >The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing >railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <005401c1fa30$d8c44480$b317e943_@_default> References: <002101c1f380$f14551e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> <003b01c1f8fe$7afbf9c0$e5453b41@oemcomputer> <3CDD7714.6060905@bellsouth.net> <001301c1f9c2$b3a39b60$f7c7d63f@oemcomputer> <3CDECE8C.8010209@bellsouth.net> <011d01c1fa25$275fac80$3edbd23f@0019873538> <3CDF26B2.4090106@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:47:00 -0500 From: "Verne and Joan Brummel" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA If I remember right, the New Orleans Union Passenger Terminal opened in 1954 to replace several older stations, including the IC, L&N, MP/T&P, Southern and KCS/L&A stations. I've been told that all of the older stations were torn down in the 1950's. I've seen photos of all but the KCS/L&A station, and all were unique, and impressive in their own way. As far as the old IC station, I believe it was one of the first to go, torn down in 1954 or 1955. LaVerne Brummel, Fitchburg,WI - ----- Original Message ----- From: Seth Bramson To: Ulster & Delaware RR HS - President Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 9:36 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA > Ulster & Delaware RR HS - President wrote: > > > If anyone else has time to go look before I do, I recall that the > >building of the "new" NOLa Union Passenger Terminal around 1950 was reported > >in a Trains Magazine of around then, with a map of the then-existing depots > >and alignments, and the new layout that would result, with a map of > > > >>>I BELIEVE it opened in 1954. Capt. LaVake's negs include the GM&O > (or was it still GM&N?) Rebel there as well as the original IC diesel > with that huge "nose" as well as some great SP PA shots, but, in any > case. I THOUGHT all of the Crescent City's passenger stations were > demolished following the opening of NOUPT. Your continued input will be > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00bb01c1fa32$a832e0e0$8767f4d1_@_paul> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 23:59:46 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Terminal Station, Atlanta This one is great http://www.icorp.net/la/no-img/term.jpg At this page is a picture of Terminal Station, Atlanta 1906 on Spring Street, Southern RR went here, also Central of Georgia, Atlanta & West Point, Seaboard Air Line opened May 13, 1905, demolished 1972 Union Station, first one built 1871 served Atlantic Coast Line, L&N, Nashville, Chattanooga and St. Louis, Georgia RR..Brookwood station (it says Amtrak goes here now) first opened 1918 ...supposedly some butterfly sheds still stand where Terminal station was ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3CDF3BB0.3040304_@_bellsouth.net> References: <002101c1f380$f14551e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> <003b01c1f8fe$7afbf9c0$e5453b41@oemcomputer> <3CDD7714.6060905@bellsouth.net> <001301c1f9c2$b3a39b60$f7c7d63f@oemcomputer> <3CDECE8C.8010209@bellsouth.net> <011d01c1fa25$275fac80$3edbd23f@0019873538> <3CDF26B2.4090106@bellsouth.net> <005401c1fa30$d8c44480$b317e943@default> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 00:06:08 -0400 From: Seth Bramson Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA Verne and Joan Brummel wrote:' >If I remember right, the New Orleans Union Passenger Terminal opened in 1954 >to replace several older stations, including the IC, L&N, MP/T&P, Southern >and KCS/L&A stations. I've been told that all of the older stations were >torn down in the 1950's. I've seen photos of all but the KCS/L&A station, >and all were unique, and impressive in their own way. As far as the old IC > >>>I know L & N and SR had their own stations, as did IC. How did the remainder of the roads "share" space? For example, into which station did SP go? GM&N/GM&O? I know one of the N. O. stations was called "Union Station," so it obviously had more than one road going in. Can anybody help here? ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00c101c1fa33$83607f60$8767f4d1_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 00:06:03 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA It seems there were three Union Stations...1st 1871, second 1891, third 1954 - -----Original Message----- From: Ulster & Delaware RR HS - President To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net Date: Sunday, May 12, 2002 10:23 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA > If anyone else has time to go look before I do, I recall that the >building of the "new" NOLa Union Passenger Terminal around 1950 was reported >in a Trains Magazine of around then, with a map of the then-existing depots >and alignments, and the new layout that would result, with a map of >then-existing depots, entrances into the city, etc. > I didn't know there was a Richardson IC station that was knocked down as >part of the process -- it would give NOLa something in common with Boston, >where the beautiful Richardson Riverside (Boston suburb) station on the B&A >was blown away for the "modernized" MTA commuter line with PCC's that took >over the service. I was callow enough when it happened that I saw the >pictures and thought it was "progress". As one of our modern bards once >said, "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now" . ..(and he and >I were both only about 25 when he said that, around 1968. . . ) > Steve Delibert >----- Original Message ----- >From: Seth Bramson >To: >Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 4:20 PM >Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans, LA > > >> Gene Paoli wrote: >> >> >I was under the impression that the IC station was replaced by the >"current >> >station", which according to the picture provided, did not resemble >> >Sullivan's & Wright's station. > >================================= >The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing >railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00c801c1fa33$a144c7c0$8767f4d1_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 00:06:51 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) New Orleans station site http://lrs.railspot.com/r-noupt.htm no pictures but lists and discusses every New Orleans station ever ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3CDF3EA8.5000106_@_bellsouth.net> References: <00c801c1fa33$a144c7c0$8767f4d1_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 00:18:48 -0400 From: Seth Bramson Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans station site Paul S. Luchter wrote: >http://lrs.railspot.com/r-noupt.htm > >no pictures but lists and discusses every New Orleans station ever > >>>VERY interesting, Paul, and thank you. The site gives us which roads used each station. It is interesting to note that MoPac operated into two separate stations in New Orleans. I can only think of two places where that occurred besides N. O.: Chicago, where NYC went into both Central Station and LaSalle St., and New York, where NH trains operated into both the Grand and the Penn. (Now, I'm not talking about, say, Philadelphia, where PRR trains left one station and passed through another, but, rather, separate stations as terminals. Where else besides the above did this occur? (Oakland/SFO for SP doesn't count, as Coast Line commute trains operated out of 3rd and Townsend (as did, I think, the through trains to L. A.) while the Overland Route trains operated out of Oakland, so that is two completely separate cities). (This is NOT a riddle! It is an honest-to-goodness info seeking question. I can't think of any more than the above. > > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00f701c1fa3b$dcafae80$8767f4d1_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 01:05:44 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans station site I was wrong, that site did have images, but only one station picture (actually there were a lot of the station built in 1954.. This page will show you a nice photo of IC Union Station, and in the info below the picture tell of when the various different RRs used it after it was built in 1892: http://lrs.railspot.com/ic_station.htm To the question, I guess saying the LIRR using two terminals in NYC is not fair answer (Brooklyn and Penn State today, and once Delancey/Chambers Streets, Brooklyn and Long Island City, Sands Street Station and Long Island City, maybe other combinations I am forgetting...If we count Manhattan ferry terminals, SL&W, Erie, NYC and PRR would have once been at various terminals... But I can't really think of another one...did the LV ever go to both their own terminal and CNJs both in Jersey City at same time?...what about in Seattle? Which was the railroad that had two stations in Coney Island akin to the PRR in Philly? I will figure it out tomorrow... The NYCentral used to have two terminals in Manhattan, the LIRR has two in Queens....I am really searching now - -----Original Message----- From: Seth Bramson To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net Date: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:15 AM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) New Orleans station site >Paul S. Luchter wrote: > >>http://lrs.railspot.com/r-noupt.htm >> >>no pictures but lists and discusses every New Orleans station ever >> > >>>VERY interesting, Paul, and thank you. The site gives us which >roads used each station. It is interesting to note that MoPac operated >into two separate stations in New Orleans. I can only think of two >places where that occurred besides N. O.: Chicago, where NYC went into >both Central Station and LaSalle St., and New York, where NH trains >operated into both the Grand and the Penn. (Now, I'm not talking about, >say, Philadelphia, where PRR trains left one station and passed through >another, but, rather, separate stations as terminals. Where else >besides the above did this occur? (Oakland/SFO for SP doesn't count, as >Coast Line commute trains operated out of 3rd and Townsend (as did, I >think, the through trains to L. A.) while the Overland Route trains >operated out of Oakland, so that is two completely separate cities). > (This is NOT a riddle! It is an honest-to-goodness info seeking >question. I can't think of any more than the above. > >> >> > > >================================= >The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing >railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <010301c1fa3f$bec8d140$8767f4d1_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 01:33:26 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index Have you seen this site? It is the list of holdings on railroad topics in the Library of Congress http://lrs.railspot.com/ic_station.htm ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <010b01c1fa41$75d50ec0$8767f4d1_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 01:45:53 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) NO history I am going to sleep, I have failed to find more pictures, I only had a thousand more sites to see what they were.. Here is a chapter of New Orleans railroad history. http://fp59.homestead.com/files/Trains.html ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #372 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001501c1fa63$f89efd80$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 05:53:02 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Tunnelton, WV Links: http://www.pentrex.com/lib/pentrex/csxm-199.jpg http://www.prestoncounty.com/images/TDepot.jpg Tunnelton train depot needs another new roof Restoration delayed, funds channeled from other work BY KATHY PLUM The Dominion Post TUNNELTON -- Five years after it began restoring the historic Tunnelton Depot, the local historical society is back to square one -- or, in this case, tile one. "We need to get the roof done, so we can finish the inside," Tunnelton Historical Society President Bob Shaffer said. "If we didn't have this problem, we'd have had it finished and open on Sundays like we planned." The Tunnelton Historical Society bought the brick depot with the sweeping terra cotta tile roof, now nearing 90 years old, from CSX for $10,000 in 1994. The project was off like a rabbit, with the purchase money raised and the deed changing hands in 20 days, and a $120,000 federal grant to begin renovations in 1996. But work has slowed to a snail's pace. The major renovation, replacement of the orange-tinted roof tiles, has to be redone. THS has argued throughout the project that contractor Allegheny Restoration didn't do the job right, but an arbitrator disagreed and said Allegheny was not at fault. Now the tiles must be replaced again, using grant money intended for interior renovations. The first replacement roof used old tiles that exactly matched the original roof. The next roof will use new tiles. "What makes it so bad is we've got to get a new type of roof," Shaffer said. "When you redo an old building, you want to keep the same look, but the look's going to be gone. It's a bigger tile, and it looks different, and it will be new." Two bids have been received on the new roof, for $70,400 and $75,430. THS has 180 days to award the contract. Tunnelton's depot is the only brick train station left in Preston County since Terra Alta's was demolished recently. Some of the original glass remains in the large windows, and looking through, the well-preserved woodwork, ticket counter and ceramic tile floor hint at the bustle that once filled the building. THS has three of the original light fixtures, and members are looking for the chandelier that once graced the cathedral ceiling. Shaffer recalls that folk used to put on their best clothes to come to the train station Sunday afternoon to see passengers board and depart. A hotel stood across the street from the station then, and the town, rich with the profits of coal and railroad, had more attractions. The historical society hopes to make the depot itself an attraction now, but plans for a museum and tours are on hold for now. "This is a setback, and people are getting discouraged," Shaffer conceded as he picked up loose pieces of tile from along the fence that separates the depot from the railroad track that still bears freight trains. But he and the few steadfast volunteers will forge on. "This is the history of the old transportation system. This is how everything came to the county," Shaffer said. The Tunnelton Historical Society meets 7:30 p.m. the fourth Tuesday of each month at the Tunnelton Depot. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: References: <010301c1fa3f$bec8d140$8767f4d1_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 06:55:36 -0500 From: "Kenton & Penni Dickerson" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index No it isn't. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul S. Luchter" To: "RSHSDepot" Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:33 AM Subject: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index > Have you seen this site? It is the list of holdings on railroad topics > in the Library of Congress > http://lrs.railspot.com/ic_station.htm > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003d01c1fa6c$e41a37e0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 06:56:52 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) King Street Station (Seattle, WA) Photo links: http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/travel/seattle/kingst.jpg http://www.gngoat.org/king_st__station.htm (information and photo links) King Street Station renovation plans in limbo until additional tracks are installed George Erb Staff Writer - Puget Sound Business Journal State officials have dramatically scaled back plans to fix up King Street Station, Seattle's faded train depot, until the station gets additional tracks so it can handle more rail traffic. Waiting for new tracks could delay restoration of the historic station by years, despite an innovative financing plan that heightened interest in the project. Nonetheless, the state Department of Transportation remains committed to eventually renovating the station. The Transportation Department now wants to spend $12 million on an "interim rehabilitation" of King Street Station this fall. That's a far cry from the $43 million renovation contemplated for the 96-year-old station only a year ago. Proceeding now with a costly station renovation seemed unwise because the station's platforms would have to be rebuilt if new tracks are installed, said Ron Sheck, the station project manager with the state Department of Transportation. "There's no point in spending between $40 million and $50 million now and coming back in a few years to spend more money for a re-do," he said. Increasing the track capacity at the station won't be easy. The task would involve rebuilding station tracks and platforms, as well as three bridges where city streets cross the tracks at South Main Street, South Jackson Street and an extension of Second Avenue South. Combined, the construction projects could take five years and cost about $75 million, according to preliminary estimates. The state Legislature and Gov. Gary Locke in 2001 changed state laws so a nonprofit could buy the station, sell bonds to finance the renovation and lease the refurbished space to government agencies. Lease payments would have generated the revenue to pay off the debt. Station advocates envisioned an ambitious renovation that would strip away false walls and ceilings installed in the early 1960s. Plans called for restoring the station's once-ornate interior to some semblance of its original luster. Instead, the Transportation Department will spend far less money fixing up the station's waiting room, restrooms, ticket counter and baggage area, among other things. The agency also wants to clean the station's brick exterior, improve security and install more visible signs. None of the interim work is considered a renovation. Money for the project will come from the state and federal governments, along with $2 million from Amtrak, the federal corporation that uses the station for intercity passenger trains. Planning for the interim work is well under way. The Transportation Department expects to put the project out to bid this fall and complete the work by the summer of 2003, Sheck said. The repair and remodeling projects, although welcome, are not the extensive renovations that station advocates have long hoped for. "It was quite disappointing to everybody," said Kevin Daniels, president of Seattle-based Nitze-Stagen & Co. Inc., which would have redeveloped King Street Station under the nonprofit plan. Nitze-Stagen redeveloped Union Station, across the street from its faded counterpart. The renovation plans were held up in part by legal questions about the nonprofit plan and by capacity limits on the tracks that pass by the depot, those familiar with the project say. Track capacity is especially troublesome. King Street Station has seven railroad tracks, but only two continue past the station; the other five tracks are "stubs" that end on the property, according to the Transportation Department. Two through tracks are not enough to handle the growing number of trains that either pass by or stop at the depot. Over the next 10 years, Amtrak and the Transportation Department expect to increase the daily number of intercity passenger trains at King Street Station to 38 from 14, the Transportation Department estimates. And Sound Transit, the regional mass-transit agency, by 2006 expects to increase the daily number of commuter-train stops at King Street Station to 30 from four. If passenger-train traffic meets those expectations, King Street Station would be the third-busiest passenger depot west of Chicago, trailing only Los Angeles and San Jose, the Transportation Department estimates. Los Angeles' Union Station now handles 140 passenger trains a day, while San Jose has 90 trains daily. But the existing rows of tracks next to King Street Station can't accommodate that many passenger trains along with the steady stream of freight trains, people familiar with the project say. "That creates some real capacity issues," the Transportation Department's Sheck said. The station needs six through tracks instead of two in order to handle the additional traffic; otherwise, the tracks next to King Street Station could reach capacity as soon as 2008, according to the Transportation Department. King Street Station, its tracks and underlying land are owned by Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp. of Fort Worth, Texas. The state Department of Transportation is now negotiating with the railroad for a long-term lease of the station. Through a spokesman, the railroad declined to comment except to say it is discussing the future of King Street Station with the Transportation Department. Coincidentally, the former Northern Pacific and Great Northern railroads opened King Street Station 96 years ago this week, on May 10, 1906. King Street Station was designed by the same architects who designed New York's Grand Central Station, and it was Seattle's first signature rail depot. "It represented a new portal to the city of Seattle, which was becoming more populated and was looking forward to a huge population boom," said Heather MacIntosh of Historic Seattle, a nonprofit historic-preservation organization. Reach George Erb at 206-447-8505 ext. 116 or gerb_@_bizjournals.com. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00bb01c1fa32$a832e0e0$8767f4d1_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 09:12:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Blue Moon Network Administrator Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Terminal Station, Atlanta On Sun, 12 May 2002, Paul S. Luchter wrote: > This one is great > > http://www.icorp.net/la/no-img/term.jpg > > At this page is a picture of Terminal Station, Atlanta 1906 > on Spring Street, Southern RR went here, also Central of Georgia, > Atlanta & West Point, Seaboard Air Line opened May 13, 1905, demolished > 1972 > > Union Station, first one built 1871 served Atlantic Coast Line, L&N, > Nashville, Chattanooga and St. Louis, Georgia RR..Brookwood station (it > says Amtrak goes here now) first opened 1918 > > ...supposedly some butterfly sheds still stand where Terminal station > was There is an article on the Atlanta stations in the current issue of "Classic TRAINS" magazine. When I was in Atlanta a few years ago there was not much to be found of the old stations. I did find a plaque on Peachtree St. near "Underground Atlanta" saying it was the site of an old passenger station. Everything in the Union Station area is now covered over and what's beneath it is apparently known as "Underground Atlanta." Henry J. Henry Priebe Jr. Blue Moon President & Network Administrator root_@_bluemoon.net www.bluemoon.net - Blue Moon Internet Corp V.90, X2 & K56flex www.railfan.net - The Railfan Network ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:08:55 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Kitchener, Ontario From a VIA press release VIA Completes $350,000 Renovations to Kitchener-Waterloo Passenger Station KITCHENER-WATERLOO =96 VIA Rail Canada today officially opened Kitchener-Waterloo's renovated train station, marking the completion of a $350,000 project started last October to modernize facilities for the growing number of passengers using the station. On hand at a news conference marking the event were VIA Rail's Regional Director, Pierre Santoni, Kitchener-Waterloo MP Andrew Telegdi, on behalf of Transport Minister David Collenette, as well as Kitchener Centre MP Karen Redman. Part of VIA's Renaissance program and a $402 million federal investment in passenger rail, the improvements reflect VIA's long-term commitment to bring more services, better equipment and faster trains to Southwestern Ontario. Mr. Telegdi noted recent Census data showing that =93the Kitchener-Waterloo region is becoming a vibrant centre in the Golden Horseshoe =96 the dynamic, growing urban corridor stretching out from Toronto that is now home to almost a quarter of Canada's total population.=94 =93Good rail service is vital to the people who live and work here, and it is a catalyst for future growth,=94 Mr. Collenette said. =93The government of Canada is committed to providing just that =96 a modern passenger rail service that is safe, efficient, and growing to meet the needs of Canadians.=94 =93Whether they are travelling for pleasure or business, the train provides an invaluable way for people to stay connected to communities throughout Southwestern Ontario, and beyond. It expands our opportunities for travelling to and from work, it attracts more people into our own community, and it adds one more asset to attract new business and industry,=94 added Ms Redman. Renovations and upgrades to the station include new ticket counters, an expanded and renovated waiting room, improved access for people with disabilities, and improvements to the parking lot and platform. =93This renovated station will make passenger rail a more effective and more attractive option for travellers coming into Kitchener-Waterloo and for the people who travel in and out of this community every day,=94 Ms Redman said. Pierre Santoni, VIA's Regional Director for Southwestern Ontario, said =93the renovations restore the heritage character of this important station, while providing a modern, more comfortable and convenient facility for passengers. We expect the number of people boarding our trains at Kitchener-Waterloo to keep growing, and we are committed to providing them with the best service possible.=94 Responding to increased demand, VIA added a new mid-morning train out of Kitchener-Waterloo for Toronto last October, with return service in the evening. The new train service includes stops at Guelph, Georgetown and Brampton. Waterloo Region Chair Ken Seiling welcomed VIA's commitment: "Good transportation links are important to any community, but they are especially vital for Waterloo Region. The refurbished Kitchener-Waterloo station and the additional service to and from Toronto support our efforts locally to lure people out of their cars and onto public transportation," said Mr. Seiling. "The VIA improvements compliment the integrated public transportation network we are building in this Region." VIA Rail is Canada's national passenger rail service. With more than a decade of sustained passenger and revenue growth across the country, and a capital investment of $402 million from the federal government, VIA's Renaissance program includes purchasing new equipment, upgrading existing equipment, improving the rail infrastructure, and modernizing and upgrading passenger s= tations and facilities. VIA is investing over $20 million in its Southwestern Ontario operations, including the renovations to the Kitchener-Waterloo passenger station. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:23:44 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Hollister, MO NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser and click/select the index or matching subject link. http://www.railfan.net/lists/mplist.cgi?rshsdepot-photo Hollister.jpg (application/octet-stream, 12211 bytes) From the Springfield (MO) News Leader... May 12, 2002 Train depot gets face-lift Volunteers spend Community Caring Day in Hollister. By Jennifer Renner News-Leader HOLLISTER =97 The day before Mother=92s Day is generally reserved for those last-minute shoppers trying to find the perfect gift for mom. Around 75 volunteers from area nonprofit organizations had a different agenda. Saturday was Community Caring Day at the Hollister Chamber of Commerce. The Chamber, nestled in the heart of Hollister, is in the original train depot. The historical building has deteriorated some over the years. The red caboose kids play on outside the building is marred by graffiti. The veranda covering benches and soda machines has a ceiling that has seen better days. The windows and doors leak. Inside, officials said the depot could use some new paint and a major spring cleaning. =93Nothing has been done to the chamber in five years,=94 said Amy Bogue-Gray, administrator of the Chamber of Commerce. Volunteers from Branson Believers spent Saturday putting plants outside, taking gravel out and putting moss in, painting the inside, fixing windows and doors, repairing ceilings and repainting the caboose, which signifies the importance of the long-standing train station to the Hollister community. The Branson Believers is a nonprofit organization that gets businesses from Branson, Forsyth, Hollister, Reeds Spring and Kimberling City to take a day off from work in August to help a nonprofit organization such as the Church Army in Branson or the Youth Life of Taney County. In return, the nonprofit organizations get together in the spring to work on a project to help the local communities. =93We send volunteers to work on projects and other groups send volunteers to help us,=94 said Sylvia Moore, a member of the Branson Senior Center. Dave Cook is on the committee for Branson Believers. =93We get together to decide which project gets done each spring,=94 said Cook. =93Last year it was in Branson, the year before that it was in Forsyth. Next year it will be in Kimberling City.=94 The Branson Believers supplies the manpower for the spring project and the host city supplies the tools and equipment needed. The part that amazes people the most, Cook said, is that there is no financing for the Branson Believers. If something needs to be paid for, the members of the committee will chip in and pay for it. Area merchants supplied items such as water, doughnuts, pizza and soft drinks for the volunteers working on the Hollister Chamber of Commerce. =93We don=92t get anything out of it,=94 Cook said. =93It=92s the right thing to do.=94 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002501c1faf5$9c1778c0$c8499a40_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 23:15:30 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index can you expand on that remark? - -----Original Message----- From: Kenton & Penni Dickerson To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net Date: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:16 AM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index >No it isn't. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul S. Luchter" >To: "RSHSDepot" >Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:33 AM >Subject: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index > > >> Have you seen this site? It is the list of holdings on railroad topics >> in the Library of Congress >> http://lrs.railspot.com/ic_station.htm >> >> ================================= >> The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing >> railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org >> >> >================================= >The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing >railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3CE084B0.4060501_@_bellsouth.net> References: <002501c1faf5$9c1778c0$c8499a40_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 23:29:52 -0400 From: Seth Bramson Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index Paul S. Luchter wrote: >can you expand on that remark? >-----Original Message----- >From: Kenton & Penni Dickerson >To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net >Date: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:16 AM >Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index > >>No it isn't. >> >>>Paul, what he was saying was that the URL did not go to a Libe of Congress index, but, rather, to a fine IC photo of the station in N. O. >> ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <005701c1faf8$39d9e820$c8499a40_@_paul> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 23:34:14 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index oh...sorry about that...it will take a while to re-find it - -----Original Message----- From: Seth Bramson To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net Date: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:26 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index >Paul S. Luchter wrote: > >>can you expand on that remark? >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kenton & Penni Dickerson >>To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net >>Date: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:16 AM >>Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Library of Congress railroad topic index >> >>>No it isn't. >>> > >>>Paul, >what he was saying was that the URL did not go to a Libe of Congress >index, but, rather, to a fine IC photo of the station in N. O. > >>> > > >================================= >The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing >railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #373 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:41:10 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Strafford, PA From Septa News... 5/13/02 - SEPTA=92S HISTORIC STRAFFORD STATION HONORED WITH AN OUTSTANDING PRESERVATION PROJECT AWARD PHILADELPHIA, PA (May 13, 2002) =96 The SEPTA Strafford Station will be honored on May 15 with a 2002 Outstanding Preservation Project Award from the Preservation Alliance for Greater Philadelphia. The award, to be presented at a ceremony and luncheon at 11:30 a.m. in the Millennium Room at Loews Philadelphia Hotel, 1200 Market Street, is in recognition of recent efforts by SEPTA and DPK&A Architects to restore and preserve the circa 1880 Strafford Station. The Preservation Alliance considers the work at Strafford Station an outstanding restoration and rehabilitation project of a historic railroad structure. Through the years the station has endured severe acts of nature, relocation from neighboring Wayne, and a damaging fire in June 1999. =93The restoration work at Strafford Station was done with such quality that it retained the historic fabric of the building,=94 said Randy Cotton, Assistant Director of the Preservation Alliance. =93We were impressed with SEPTA=92s commitment to finish the restoration project even after the fire. This project is another in a chain of successful restoration projects by SEPTA. It=92s good to see an agency committed to preserving history.=94 A journey on SEPTA=92s R5 Thorndale/Paoli regional rail line provides a direct link from Philadelphia to the Main Line. Exit the line at Strafford and you=92ll uncover a direct link to the past. Featuring late Victorian Stick Style architecture, the Strafford Station had remained largely unaltered since 1884 with the exception of the loss of the original slate roof and decorative roof cresting. A new ground story was built in 1884 raising the building to track level to accommodate the higher elevation at Strafford after its move from Wayne. Now riders are again discovering an elaborate edifice that has managed to resist the test of time thanks to the $4.3 million rehabilitation project. A recently completed stage of the rehabilitation project attached new slate roofs using original material. The comprehensive project also involved repainting based on historic paint analysis and millwork, timber, and plaster restoration. Platform canopies shelters and stairs were also refurbished. The station building was moved approximately 50 feet while working on the platform. As part of the renovation project, the Strafford Station will be ADA accessible for riders with disabilities with such features as tactile platform warning edges, ramp systems to the inbound and outbound platforms, new lighting as well as an accessible ticket window and restroom facility. The Strafford Station renovation project is in its final stages and scheduled for completion in May. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <50.b71c7dd.2a12aecc_@_aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:17:48 EDT From: I95BERNIEW_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Strafford, PA Here are some links, including photos, of the Strafford Station: http://www.dpka.com/Project%20Pages/strafford_station.htm (station rehab Web site) http://www.dpka.com/Project%20Pages/historic_stations.htm http://www.dpka.com/images/strafford-old.jpg (photo circa 1950s) http://www.chesco.com/~apu/prr/strafford.html (Web page on station w/photos) ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00d501c1fb84$054e0aa0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:13:43 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Provo, UT Links: http://ghostdepot.com/rg/images/utah/provo%20union%20depot%20c1910%20pc.jpg (Provo's Union Station circa 1910) Officials celebrate completion of new train depot in Provo The Daily Herald on Tuesday, May 14 By AMY K. STEWART PROVO -- The city will celebrate its new train depot with a ceremony on Wednesday. The event, beginning at 10 a.m., will be at the depot site at 300 West and 600 South, Provo. The public is invited to attend. Mayor Lewis K. Billings, as well as the Provo City Council and Amtrak officials, will speak and drive in some spikes at the site. There will be a free tour of the Silver Lariat Vista Dome Car, formerly part of the California Zephyr Train, as seen in the movie "Pearl Harbor." The new depot cost $120,000 and was split between Provo city, Amtrak and a federal grant. A few city departments also provided some in-kind funds. Construction was by Wade Payne Construction of Orem. The old depot was a graffiti-covered metal frame structure with a cement floor and Plexiglas roof and windows. The parking lot was dark and made of gravel. The new structure was created to look like an old-fashioned depot and is made partially of brick. The new depot consists of three well-lit shelters: two are outdoor units and one is an enclosed, heated building. There is a phone and paved parking spaces. Landscaping has been put in with grass and trees. "We've had a lot of compliments on it," said city long-range planner Vern Keeslar, who helped the mayor with the project. "I'm excited for there to be a safe, secure place for people to leave their car and hop on Amtrak and go for a ride," Keeslar said. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00d601c1fb85$1dccd5b0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:22:48 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Dayton, NV Photo link: http://www.rgj.com/news/files/2002/05/13/9525.jpg.php (depot as it appears today) Depot's rescue on fast track Dayton trying to get grant to buy historic building Tim Anderson RENO GAZETTE-JOURNAL A community effort to acquire and restore an historic railroad depot in Dayton has entered a new phase. Project proponents said Monday they've applied for a $250,000 state grant as the initial step toward possible purchase of a 1.08-acre site at U.S. 50 and Main Street. If the grant is secured, community activists will turn their attention toward generating matching funds to build a community park and preserve the old Carson & Colorado Railroad depot. With public awareness of the project vital to any chance at long-term success, the Dayton Historic Society has arranged for a railroad-themed celebration Saturday in the 153-year-old Lyon County community. The events are part of Nevada's extensive Archaeological Awareness and Historic Preservation Week activities. "Acquiring the former depot and the land adjacent to it is very important to Dayton's future. If we're successful with this, it will open up other opportunities for the town,'' said Roxie Paine, executive director of the Dayton Area Chamber of Commerce. In recent years, a number of residents have taken an active role in highlighting Dayton's place in state history and have pushed for ways to preserve and protect what remains of the community's rich heritage. Representatives of the Nevada State Railroad Museum said the depot, dating from the 1880s, is one of only three remaining from the Carson & Colorado. The structure, owned by Boyd Mitchell of Texas, is currently used for rental housing. Paine said the grant application that could help facilitate purchase of the property is through the Nevada Land & Water Conservation Fund. The application seeks to create a park in the heart of the community. "The key is to get ownership of the land. If we're successful, we can turn our attention toward cleaning up the corner and then to restoring the old depot,'' Paine said. Paine said the asking price for the property, which includes the former depot and several other buildings, is $450,000. She said attorney fees, surveying costs and other expenses will likely add another $50,000 to the cost. If the campaign is successful, Paine said the restored depot would be used for chamber offices and a visitors information center. The chamber currently operates from the Dayton Historic Society Museum. Paine said those involved in the "Save the Dayton Station'' campaign will know in early July about the grant application. If the funds are awarded, Paine said the group can begin to contact potential corporate and foundation sponsors. "It will require a major effort. We don't have any illusions about what will be involved. And we have to raise the matching funds in a year,'' Paine said. She said the site is ideal for a visitors center because it's the gateway to Dayton's historic core. Other community groups have been actively looking into other potential town improvements, including sidewalks and the installation of replica gas lights. Key members of those involved in saving the depot are scheduled to be at the museum Saturday and will be selling railroad-related items, including hats and whistles, to raise funds for the project. Historic society president Laura Tennant said several activities are planned during the day to highlight the role of railroads in the town's history. They include: o Tours of the area following the route of Dayton's railroads, led by railroad history buff Afton Frederick of Dayton, and will include the route of the Dayton, Sutro and Carson Valley Railroad. This rail line took tailings from the mouth of Gold Canyon (where Dayton was first settled) to a mill along the Carson River. The tours will be at 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. o A lecture by Bernie Allen of Carson City on the history of the Carson & Colorado Railroad. He plans to bring equipment to the museum, including an original handcar. The narrow gauge railroad linked Mound House to Keeler, Calif. The only known remaining railroad buildings are depots in Dayton and in Laws and Keeler in Calfornia's Owens Valley, and a freight house in Hawthorne. o A gold nugget found in Gold Canyon by pioneer John Orr, who was traveling in a wagon train camping in the area in 1850. The 14.5-gram nugget was later donated to the Nevada State Museum. The museum's curator of history, Bob Nylen, will answer questions at the Dayton museum, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:32:34 EDT From: Asychis_@_aol.com Subject: (rshsdepot) St. Louis area suburban depots Gentlemen, I am quite new to this list, and have a request. I am working on an article for the Missouri Pacific Historical Society on the suburban service provided by the Missouri Pacific and Iron Mountain in the early 1900, up through about WWII. I am in need of photos or postcards of various depots which were part of the suburban service. If anyone would ahve photos or postcards I could borrow, buy or copy (I can take scans too) of any St. Louis area (west and south) suburban stations, please contact me off list. I'm also trying to nail down the hsitory of suburban service on teh Missouri Pacific in Kansas City and Omaha. Thanks for your time and kind consideration. Jerry Michels ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:37:36 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) New England Depots In searching for something else I came across this description of a new book to be released in Spring, 2003 http://www.branchlinepress.com/rail_titles.html "A Field Guide to Southern New England Railroad Depots and Freight Houses" Once the depot was the center of every New England city and town. Today hundreds of historic railroad stations and freigh= t houses survive in Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts, sometimes years after the last train made its run and t= he rails were lifted. Former stations serve as professional offices, video rental stores, government buildings, and priva= te homes. Some are abandoned but intact. In this all-new handbook, John Roy, Jr., will present a comprehensive guide to all railroad depots and freight houses tha= t still exist in southern New England. Each listing will include a photograph, with a brief description of the buidling, = its function today, and historical and architectural notes. Railfans, historians, and architectural buffs will want to ha= ve this book. Available Spring 2003. 6" x 9" paperback, ISBN 0-942147-08-1 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004601c1fb9a$0729cd80$2aae9840_@_paul> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:52:26 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Provo, UT Is that a self-propelled car in the picture? I didn't know they knocked anything down out there, when did this depot bite the dust? Paul - -----Original Message----- From: Bernie Wagenblast To: Rail Depot List Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) Provo, UT Links: http://ghostdepot.com/rg/images/utah/provo%20union%20depot%20c1910%20pc.jpg (Provo's Union Station circa 1910) Officials celebrate completion of new train depot in Provo The Daily Herald on Tuesday, May 14 By AMY K. STEWART PROVO -- The city will celebrate its new train depot with a ceremony on Wednesday. The event, beginning at 10 a.m., will be at the depot site at 300 West and 600 South, Provo. The public is invited to attend. Mayor Lewis K. Billings, as well as the Provo City Council and Amtrak officials, will speak and drive in some spikes at the site. There will be a free tour of the Silver Lariat Vista Dome Car, formerly part of the California Zephyr Train, as seen in the movie "Pearl Harbor." The new depot cost $120,000 and was split between Provo city, Amtrak and a federal grant. A few city departments also provided some in-kind funds. Construction was by Wade Payne Construction of Orem. The old depot was a graffiti-covered metal frame structure with a cement floor and Plexiglas roof and windows. The parking lot was dark and made of gravel. The new structure was created to look like an old-fashioned depot and is made partially of brick. The new depot consists of three well-lit shelters: two are outdoor units and one is an enclosed, heated building. There is a phone and paved parking spaces. Landscaping has been put in with grass and trees. "We've had a lot of compliments on it," said city long-range planner Vern Keeslar, who helped the mayor with the project. "I'm excited for there to be a safe, secure place for people to leave their car and hop on Amtrak and go for a ride," Keeslar said. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #374 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002501c1fbfb$1793f4a0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 06:27:19 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Lynnville, TN Link: http://www.lynnvillerailroad.com/museum.php (information and photos) Lynnville takes over railroad museum By: PAUL MANKE, Staff Writer Citizen Press At the request of the Lynnville Railroad Society, the city's board of mayor and aldermen has started the process of taking over the society's railroad museum. In a unanimous vote last Thursday, members of the board directed its attorney, Joe Fowlkes, to prepare an ordinance under which the city would take over the approximately $61,000 of debt on the building. John Tunstall, who represented the railroad society with Jim Tom Englett, asked the board to take over the museum so the society could concentrate onpaying for a locomotive and preparing the Lynn Creek and Dotson Gap Railroad for operation. "Other cities have done the same thing," Tunstall said, noting several instances of cities with railroad museums. "We would lease the depot from you (the city,)" he said. The society needs to raise approximately $40,000 to pay for the locomotive and a shed also needs to be built to house the engine. "We cannot do both," Tunstall said, referring to paying the note on the museum and the expenditures for the locomotive. The railroad museum building, which still is in good shape, Tunstall noted, opened approximately five years ago. Interest payments have been made on the money borrowed from First National Bank. In 2000, the city also started paying the museum's electrical bill and other expenses. A fund-raising drive organized by the society last year to help pay the money borrowed for the museum failed miserably, Tunstall said. Two out-of-state organizations are working with the railroad society to help raise money for the locomotive, Tunstall said. Rumors that the Lynn Creek and Dotson Gap Railroad, which would provide an excursion service into Maury County, is not going forward are untrue, Tunstall said. He noted that the CSX Railroad has donated some railroad ties and Tennessee Southern, a short-line railroad, which operates the line between Pulaski and Columbia, will provide some equipment for some of the work. Members of the board spoke in favor of the city's taking over the indebtedness on the museum. Alderman James Bomar and others noted that the museum and eventually the operation of the Lynn Creek and Dotson Gap Railroad would generate more sales tax revenues for the city through spending from more tourists and visitors that could help pay for the museum. Mayor Frances Hewitt noted that the city had raised enough money from fund-raisers such as horse shows, to pay off a note on renovating the Reid Theatre a few years ago, and it was suggested that proceeds from fund-raisers could go for paying for the railroad museum. A grant from the now defunct Tennessee Elk River Valley Association also helped pay for the renovations at the Reid Theater.. James Leazott, a member of the Lynnville station of the Giles Fire and Rescue Squad and other squad members, supported the city's paying for the museum, but said the board should have a more definite plan to pay for the museum instead of relying on fund-raisers. Bomar and Aldermen Norman Davis, Charles Graves, Monti Claire Carpenter and Debbie Howell and Mayor Hewitt favored the city's move to take over the museum. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003701c1fc01$961c2bc0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 07:03:45 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Raleigh, NC NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser and click/select the index or matching subject link. http://www.railfan.net/lists/mplist.cgi?rshsdepot-photo mlink.gif (image/gif, 853 bytes) h Transit's Plan for Rail Station Upsets Raleigh, N.C., Business Owners The News & Observer May 15--RALEIGH, N.C.--When Vinh Tan decided to open a restaurant in the warehouse district last year, he signed a five-year lease. Next month, his Sushi Breeze restaurant is set to open after renovations costing nearly $500,000. Last week, he found out that the Triangle Transit Authority plans to demolish the West Street building where Sushi Breeze and seven other businesses are located to build a $50 million downtown commuter rail station. "I'm totally shocked," said Tan after being told the TTA planned to buy the building by 2004. "You mean I'll be here a year and have to move?" Tan, who lives in Cary, wasn't the only owner unhappy over plans to tear down the two-story building at 200 S. West St., which now houses more than 50 employees. "There's definitely eight [owners] that don't want it," said Wilmington resident Dan Wilson, who owns the building. Besides 200 S. West St., the TTA expects to buy some of the 9-acre Dillon Supply Co. site. Because the TTA needs only 2 or 3 acres of the Dillon property for the 400-foot-long underground boarding platform, the agency could end up with excess land to sell off for redevelopment. The TTA station is expected to give a major boost to downtown redevelopment by bringing more people to the area, but Wilson and other business owners say that boost is coming at their expense. TTA is required to compensate businesses, but some owners expect that moving will cut revenue. And it will be difficult to find a funky building such as Wilson's, which in the 1920s was home to a casket company and features massive plank floors and exposed ceiling timbers. "You can't find anything like this in Raleigh," said Jordan W.T. Duggan, owner of Indicium Design, a Web development firm with five employees, which moved in two years ago. "It took three months for me to find this place." Duggan said his employees spend most of their time staring into computer screens, and the 15-foot high ceilings and exposed beams offer a bit of homey relief. Duggan said he spent $7,000 for a sophisticated system of phone lines needed for Internet access. He doubts he will be compensated for the cost when he moves. Under federal regulations, TTA must pay relocation costs, but individual businesses must find a place to move into. They also may be compensated for some or all of their renovation costs. Wilson will be paid fair market value for his building, according to the TTA. "Nothing good is going to come out of this for anybody," said Holly A. Fletcher, office manager for Broadreach, a company with seven employees that plans exotic worldwide vacations for hundreds of teenagers each summer. Broadreach employees can relax over a game of billiards on the company pool table and bring their dogs to work. "I don't know what we're going to do," Fletcher said. "We're all five to 10 minutes from home. Our office is our personality. I can't even imagine moving." Other tenants include landscape architect Philip Crawford, Five Star Restaurant and Four/Four, a record store. Wilson was one of the pioneers in redeveloping the warehouse district. He bought the 36,000-square-foot building in 1994, before developers began snapping up surrounding warehouses to convert to offices, wine bars, restaurants and clubs. Now Wilson wonders whether he'll ever recoup his investment. He paid $245,000 for the building and estimates that an additional $1 million has been sunk into renovation. "I bought it for my retirement and don't want it yanked out from under me," said Wilson, 49, an antiques dealer. "I don't want to sell it. Where do you go and where where do you find a building that size again? I'd like to find a half dozen more, but they don't exist." ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <413CACCE0349D3118C300004AC38683402E08190_@_msg1.utoledo.edu> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 07:40:47 -0400 From: MCamp_@_utnet.utoledo.edu Subject: (rshsdepot) RE: Fort Valley Georgia RR Buildings Can anyone help Paul out? Please e-mail directly to him. Mark > ---------- > From: Paul Knight > Reply To: paul_@_knight.name > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:03 PM > To: mcamp_@_geology.utoledo.edu > Subject: Fort Valley Georgia RR Buildings > > Hello, > My name is Paul Knight. I live in Peach County Georgia. > I have been told that Fort Valley is the only town in Georgia that > still has the 3 original railroad structures still standing,,,The > Freight Terminal, The Passenger Terminal and the Switching Station. > There has been some talk recently about demolishing the freight > terminal to make a park. I am very concerned about this along with a > lot of the residents here. > Do you know where we can turn to get more information on saving this > great Central Georgia History. > Thanks for you assistance, > Paul > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004301c1fc06$410192b0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 07:46:13 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) South Amboy, NJ NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser and click/select the index or matching subject link. http://www.railfan.net/lists/mplist.cgi?rshsdepot-photo spacer.gif (image/gif, 43 bytes) Safety efforts renewed at S. Amboy station Appeal made after woman is killed on tracks Wednesday, May 15, 2002 BY ALICIA GREY Star-Ledger Staff Little more than a week after a woman was killed crossing the railroad tracks in South Amboy, the city's mayor and an assemblyman made a public appeal yesterday to NJ Transit's new executive director to make train station improvements a top priority. City and state officials have talked for years about building an intermodal transportation hub that would include a pedestrian walkway above the tracks, an elevated platform and other changes. If these improvements had been in place, last week's fatal train accident could have been prevented, Mayor Jack O'Leary said. Kathleen Osowski, a 32-year-old Brooklyn woman, was killed May 6 as she hurried to catch a train to New York City. Witnesses said she walked around the lowered gate at the Augusta Street train crossing and was struck by a westbound NJ Transit train from New York City en route to Long Branch. O'Leary and Assemblyman John Wisniewski (D-Middlesex) met with NJ Transit Executive Director George Warrington yesterday to urge the agency to step up its efforts to make the busy station safer. Wisniewski said that Warrington made "a commitment to look for money to see that the overpass is the first part of the project." They said the director would come back to them with an answer in a week. "It's not news that we've had plans to build an intermodal plaza, plans to incorporate a high-level platform and walk-over that would make it safer than it is today," the mayor said. "This is one of the most dangerous crossings in New Jersey, if not the country." The city has already secured a $2.5 million federal grant to pay for the plaza, which is expected to cost $6.4 million. The plaza will be the latest phase of a multimillion-dollar project to modernize the train station, which sits behind Broadway. In all, NJ Transit has allocated more than $20 million to make improvements to the train station and parking lot. Dodging gates and trying to outrun trains is nothing new, commuters and city officials said. "Everybody does it," said Sharon Bodnar of South Amboy, a regular commuter who was at the station when Osowski died. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004301c1fc06$410192b0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:32:08 -0400 From: Rob Davis Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) South Amboy, NJ On 5/15/02 7:46 AM, "Bernie Wagenblast" wrote: > Dodging gates and trying to outrun trains is nothing new, commuters and city > officials said. > > "Everybody does it," said Sharon Bodnar of South Amboy, a regular commuter > who was at the station when Osowski died. Darwin lives. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:56:24 +0000 From: "Don Dorflinger" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) South Amboy, NJ What town does Mayor O'Leary live in??? Unless it's been dismantled or closed since last I was there, there IS a pedestrian walkway over the tracks at S. Amboy. How about a simple change in operating rules that would prohibit passing a stopped train in the station at speeds in excess of 15 MPH. Don >From: Bernie Wagenblast >Reply-To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net >To: Rail Depot List >Subject: (rshsdepot) South Amboy, NJ >Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 07:46:13 -0400 > >NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. >To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser and click/select the index or matching subject link. > >http://www.railfan.net/lists/mplist.cgi?rshsdepot-photo > >spacer.gif (image/gif, 43 bytes) > > >Safety efforts renewed at S. Amboy station > >Appeal made after woman is killed on tracks > > >Wednesday, May 15, 2002 > > >BY ALICIA GREY >Star-Ledger Staff > >Little more than a week after a woman was killed crossing the railroad >tracks in South Amboy, the city's mayor and an assemblyman made a public >appeal yesterday to NJ Transit's new executive director to make train >station improvements a top priority. > > > >City and state officials have talked for years about building an intermodal >transportation hub that would include a pedestrian walkway above the tracks, >an elevated platform and other changes. > >If these improvements had been in place, last week's fatal train accident >could have been prevented, Mayor Jack O'Leary said. > >Kathleen Osowski, a 32-year-old Brooklyn woman, was killed May 6 as she >hurried to catch a train to New York City. Witnesses said she walked around >the lowered gate at the Augusta Street train crossing and was struck by a >westbound NJ Transit train from New York City en route to Long Branch. > >O'Leary and Assemblyman John Wisniewski (D-Middlesex) met with NJ Transit >Executive Director George Warrington yesterday to urge the agency to step up >its efforts to make the busy station safer. > >Wisniewski said that Warrington made "a commitment to look for money to see >that the overpass is the first part of the project." They said the director >would come back to them with an answer in a week. > >"It's not news that we've had plans to build an intermodal plaza, plans to >incorporate a high-level platform and walk-over that would make it safer >than it is today," the mayor said. "This is one of the most dangerous >crossings in New Jersey, if not the country." > >The city has already secured a $2.5 million federal grant to pay for the >plaza, which is expected to cost $6.4 million. > >The plaza will be the latest phase of a multimillion-dollar project to >modernize the train station, which sits behind Broadway. In all, NJ Transit >has allocated more than $20 million to make improvements to the train >station and parking lot. > >Dodging gates and trying to outrun trains is nothing new, commuters and city >officials said. > >"Everybody does it," said Sharon Bodnar of South Amboy, a regular commuter >who was at the station when Osowski died. > > >================================= >The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing >railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:03:46 -0400 From: Gordy Bjoraker Subject: (rshsdepot) Provo, Utah Rio Grande depot >I didn't know they knocked anything down out there, when did this depot bite >the dust? >Paul >- -----Original Message----- >From: Bernie Wagenblast >To: Rail Depot List >Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:17 PM >Subject: (rshsdepot) Provo, UT > > >Links: >http://ghostdepot.com/rg/images/utah/provo%20union%20depot%20c1910%20pc.jpg >(Provo's Union Station circa 1910) > >Officials celebrate completion of new train depot in Provo >The Daily Herald on Tuesday, May 14 I photographed the Provo depot in 1977 and I believe I saw it from the Rio Grande Zephyr in 1980. When I rode Amtrak's Pioneer/California Zephyr in 1990, I was disappointed to see that it had been torn down. So sometime in the mid-1980s. Gordy Bjoraker ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <007801c1fc4c$9e3f09d0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:10:54 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Brantford, Ontario Photo links: http://www.old-postcards.com/2030.jpg (Grand Trunk depot) http://www.old-postcards.com/3827.jpg (CH&B station) Note: I'm not sure which station is the one that was renovated. If anyone on the list knows, please pass the information along. Transport Minister Opens Renewed VIA Station in Brantford BRANTFORD, Ontario - VIA Rail Canada today officially opened VIA Rail's renovated Brantford station. On hand for the occasion were Transport Minister David Collenette and VIA's Regional Director for South-western Ontario, Pierre Santoni. They were joined by the Honourable Jane Stewart, Minister of Human Resources Development, the Member of Parliament for Brantford. The event marks the completion of a $350,000 project to modernize facilities for the growing number of passengers using the station, while preserving the building's historic character. Part of VIA's Renaissance program and a $402 million federal investment in passenger rail, the improvements reflect VIA's long-term commitment to bring more services, better equipment and faster trains to South-western Ontario. At a news conference marking the event, Mr. Collenette noted that "Brantford is in the heart of one of the most dynamic, growing urban corridors in the country. Good rail service is important to the people who live and work here, and it will continue to be a catalyst for future growth. The Government of Canada is committed to providing just that - a modern passenger rail service that is safe, efficient, and meets the needs of Canadians." "Whether they are travelling for pleasure or business, the train provides an invaluable way for people to stay connected to communities throughout South-western Ontario, and beyond. It expands our opportunities for travelling to and from work, it attracts more people into our own community, and it adds one more asset to attract new business and industry," added Ms Stewart. Pierre Santoni, VIA's Regional Director for South-western Ontario, said that VIA preserved and restored the heritage character of the station, built in 1905. "We wanted to keep the original architectural details, inside and out, while providing modern facilities that meet our customers' expectations for comfort, convenience, and efficiency. We are very pleased with the result. I think the people boarding our trains at this station will be pleased too." In addition to exterior restorations and structural repairs, renovations include new interior and exterior lighting, more accessible washrooms and ticket counters, and improved waiting room facilities. Representing Brantford Mayor Chris Friel, City Councillor Larry Kings welcomed VIA's commitment to Brantford. "Good transportation links are important to any community, but they are especially vital for Brantford - a city where people live and work as part of a growing economic and industrial corridor reaching right across South-western Ontario. This station is one way - an increasingly important way - for people to connect with that extended community every day." VIA Rail is Canada's national passenger rail service. With more than a decade of sustained passenger and revenue growth across the country, and a capital investment of $402 million from the federal government, VIA's Renaissance program includes purchasing new equipment, upgrading existing equipment, improving the rail infrastructure, and modernizing and upgrading passenger stations and facilities. VIA is investing over $20 million in its South-western Ontario operations, including the renovations to the Brantford passenger station. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <007e01c1fc4d$2065fa40$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:14:32 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario Link: http://www.viarail.ca/corporate/en_bkgdr_20020510_kitchener_waterloo.html (description of renovation project) VIA Completes $350,000 Renovations to Kitchener-Waterloo Passenger Station KITCHENER-WATERLOO - VIA Rail Canada today officially opened Kitchener-Waterloo's renovated train station, marking the completion of a $350,000 project started last October to modernize facilities for the growing number of passengers using the station. On hand at a news conference marking the event were VIA Rail's Regional Director, Pierre Santoni, Kitchener-Waterloo MP Andrew Telegdi, on behalf of Transport Minister David Collenette, as well as Kitchener Centre MP Karen Redman. Part of VIA's Renaissance program and a $402 million federal investment in passenger rail, the improvements reflect VIA's long-term commitment to bring more services, better equipment and faster trains to Southwestern Ontario. Mr. Telegdi noted recent Census data showing that "the Kitchener-Waterloo region is becoming a vibrant centre in the Golden Horseshoe - the dynamic, growing urban corridor stretching out from Toronto that is now home to almost a quarter of Canada's total population." "Good rail service is vital to the people who live and work here, and it is a catalyst for future growth," Mr. Collenette said. "The government of Canada is committed to providing just that - a modern passenger rail service that is safe, efficient, and growing to meet the needs of Canadians." "Whether they are travelling for pleasure or business, the train provides an invaluable way for people to stay connected to communities throughout Southwestern Ontario, and beyond. It expands our opportunities for travelling to and from work, it attracts more people into our own community, and it adds one more asset to attract new business and industry," added Ms Redman. Renovations and upgrades to the station include new ticket counters, an expanded and renovated waiting room, improved access for people with disabilities, and improvements to the parking lot and platform. "This renovated station will make passenger rail a more effective and more attractive option for travellers coming into Kitchener-Waterloo and for the people who travel in and out of this community every day," Ms Redman said. Pierre Santoni, VIA's Regional Director for Southwestern Ontario, said "the renovations restore the heritage character of this important station, while providing a modern, more comfortable and convenient facility for passengers. We expect the number of people boarding our trains at Kitchener-Waterloo to keep growing, and we are committed to providing them with the best service possible." Responding to increased demand, VIA added a new mid-morning train out of Kitchener-Waterloo for Toronto last October, with return service in the evening. The new train service includes stops at Guelph, Georgetown and Brampton. Waterloo Region Chair Ken Seiling welcomed VIA's commitment: "Good transportation links are important to any community, but they are especially vital for Waterloo Region. The refurbished Kitchener-Waterloo station and the additional service to and from Toronto support our efforts locally to lure people out of their cars and onto public transportation," said Mr. Seiling. "The VIA improvements compliment the integrated public transportation network we are building in this Region." VIA Rail is Canada's national passenger rail service. With more than a decade of sustained passenger and revenue growth across the country, and a capital investment of $402 million from the federal government, VIA's Renaissance program includes purchasing new equipment, upgrading existing equipment, improving the rail infrastructure, and modernizing and upgrading passenger stations and facilities. VIA is investing over $20 million in its Southwestern Ontario operations, including the renovations to the Kitchener-Waterloo passenger station. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <008401c1fc4f$d7ceba30$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:33:59 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Roanoke, VA Roanoke station on endangered sites list The station closed in 1959 when the Virginian merged with Norfolk and Western Railway, which became Norfolk Southern. By KATHY LU THE ROANOKE TIMES Roanoke's Virginian Railway Station is nothing if not endangered. In 2000, the Roanoke Valley Preservation Foundation named the station one of the valley's most endangered sites. In 2001, it was named one of the most endangered stations in the country by Great American Station Foundation, a national nonprofit organization dedicated to revitalizing defunct rail passenger stations. Now the Preservation Alliance of Virginia has put the station on its 2002 list of Virginia's Most Endangered Historic Places. The announcement was made Tuesday in Richmond as part of this week's National Preservation Week . "It's one of the few remaining railway stations from that period," said George Edwards, executive director of the alliance. "It's an excellent example of good design." Built in 1909, the railway station on South Jefferson Street was the only brick station along Virginian Railway's 608-mile system from Deepwater, W.Va., south of Charleston, to Tidewater. It is the oldest structure on that route. The station closed in 1959 when the Virginian merged with Norfolk and Western Railway, which became Norfolk Southern. The building most recently housed a feed and seed business until a fire gutted it in January 2001, leaving gaping holes in the roof. Since then, the Roanoke Valley Preservation Foundation has been negotiating with Norfolk Southern to buy the building. "We hope this will help our case," said Alison Blanton, foundation president, about Tuesday's announcement. "This underscores the importance of the building and the real threat to it." Although the Preservation Alliance of Virginia is about 18 years old, this is only the second time it has announced a list of the state's endangered historic sites. Roanoke's Ebony Club was on the first list, which came out in 2000. More than 40 citizens and groups from across Virginia, including the Roanoke foundation, submitted nominations to the alliance for this year's list, Edwards said. A committee that included preservation consultants and architects made the final selections based on location, diversity of property types, historical significance and type of threat. Edwards said the Virginian Railway Station has one of the brightest futures on the list. "We hope it might be a good model for Norfolk Southern in disposing of other railroad properties," Edwards said. "Our end result is to achieve a save." ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <008a01c1fc51$47fa6fb0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:44:17 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Michigan City, IN Photo links: http://southshore.railfan.net/ss-34.html http://members.aol.com/metrafan/pmss5.jpg What's next for station? By Jeff Tucker Michigan City officials are talking with the owner of the former South Shore station on 11th Street about creating a public-private partnership honoring the historic railroad and improving the current site. While no offers have been made, Mayor Sheila Brillson said the project could enable the city to join a group of museums throughout the South Shore corridor, being promoted by a group called the South Shore Line Heritage Foundation Inc. That group is proposing to establish a series of mini-museums throughout the South Shore corridor called "The 90-Mile Museum." Station owner Ben Weinschneider of Chicago said he initiated the recent talks to try to infuse some new energy into the renovation project, which has been discussed for years since the station closed in 1987. He said he's interested in some kind of partnership that would include a museum, loft apartment, shops and a restaurant, with some space for train passengers to buy tickets and wait for trains. "I think it's silly that people have to wait outside in a little Plexiglas booth when there's a facility there," Weinschneider said. Gary officials have committed $75,000 for the preliminary architecture for the "main museum" at a site in that city, and the National Park Service has acquired more than a dozen of the South Shore's vintage railroad cars to donate to the museums. "We've discussed our interest in being the epicenter of that 90-mile museum group," Brillson said. "I think this community puts a tremendous value on the historic station and the South Shore's role in our community's history." Brillson wrote the South Shore in March, encouraging railroad officials to reinvest in Michigan City's two stations, the 11th Street station and the city's other South Shore stop at Carroll Avenue. City officials have wanted to restore the 1920s-era 11th Street station for years since it closed Nov. 11, 1987, after the railroad filed bankruptcy. They also say the 11th Street and Carroll Avenue stations have fallen into disrepair in recent years. "The current state of both Michigan City stations discourages tourists from the areas east and west of our county, a situation that directly impacts the economics of this community and of NICTD," Brillson wrote. "It is only reasonable to believe that, with the use of some marketing tools, modernization of both Michigan City NICTD stations would encourage some of the 7 million people who visit Michigan City and LaPorte County (annually), as well as additional tourists, to utilize NICTD's convenient service to this community." Brillson said she hopes the former station at 114 E. 11th St. ultimately will have a mixed use, with enhanced passenger facilities and an outdoor display of vintage South Shore cars, covered by a canopy. She stressed negotiations are in their very preliminary stages, and no offers have yet been made. After the 11th Street station closed in 1987, it was sold a year later to an undisclosed buyer represented by Robert Leiby of Leiby Real Estate & Appraisals, Michigan City. The station was sold again in 1998 to Weinschneider. Weinschneider's group, The South Shore Station LLC, had plans to renovate the building, adding upstairs apartments and businesses downstairs. The property's value was assessed at $77,500 in March 2001. City Planner John Pugh said he has known Weinschneider for about three years and is encouraged by a meeting with him last month. "We did have a preliminary meeting with the owner, hosted by the mayor, and I think the tone of that meeting was very positive and will lead us to future meetings," Pugh said. "I think he is an interested owner, and he wants very much to be a part of the community and the redevelopment of this station. I think he really wants to do something." Pugh said city officials are trying to establish a consortium to redevelop the station, including Weinschneider, the South Shore Line Heritage Foundation and Northern Indiana Commuter Transportation District, owner of the South Shore Line. "What we want to do is before we have another meeting with Ben, is to meet with this railroad foundation group and talk to NICTD in an effort to try and generate interest and bring Mr. Weinschneider to the table with those interested groups," Pugh said. "I don't know when we will reach a conclusion, but the efforts are ongoing and we hope to reach a conclusion soon." NICTD officials said last month they have no long-term plans to have another station in Michigan City, beyond the small outdoor shelter now in the parking lot next to the former 11th Street station. But they said they would consider leasing some indoor space if someone else developed the 11th Street station. They also noted all the museum efforts are handled through the Heritage Foundation, and NICTD doesn't have the funds or memorabilia needed to start a museum. The enhancement of the 11th Street station is a key part of the city's North End redevelopment plan. The plan includes the redevelopment of the entire block bounded by 10th and 11th streets, and between Pine and Franklin streets. The plan released by Arthur Andersen and Camiros consultants in 2001 includes: . Renovating the 11th Street station with a museum, visitor's welcome center and passenger-intermodal facility. . A train display. . Intersection and signal improvements at Wabash, Washington, Franklin and Pine streets. . A new parking area. . New commercial development in the immediate area. In March, the City Councilman Chuck Lungren led the council in vowing to make the renovation of the former South Shore station a top priority this year. Lungren also has been involved in discussions with Weinshneider to refurbish the station to "its former glory." "Let's make it a pet project for this council," Lungren said. Councilwoman Joie Winski said the station could serve as the gateway to the city's downtown "Golden Triangle," of Blue Chip Casino, Lighthouse Place-Premium Outlets and Washington Park. Councilwoman Evelyn Baker said she worked in the 11th Street station for 20 years after completing high school, saying the station used to serve as "the hub of the whole town. Everyone from around town came there, drunk or sober, after the bars closed at night. It really was a nice place to go, a nice place to sit. "That could again be the hub of the city," Baker said. "That's been one of my pet projects for so long." The station's renovation also is supported by various civic groups, including the Michigan City Mainstreet Association, Michigan City Area Chamber of Commerce and Elston Grove Neighborhood Association. "This development is important to the entire city," Ed Kiss of the Mainstreet Association said after the City Council vowed in March to prioritize the station's refurbishment. "It is the first impression of Michigan City that many travelers see. Every day, riders getting off the South Shore at 11th Street or those traveling through the city by train are greeted by this image of Michigan City. "It sends a false image and it doesn't encourage them to shop, visit or invest in our community." The South Shore Line, which will celebrate its 100th anniversary in 2003, is the last electric inter-urban train still operating in the United States. Its familiar orange cars have become an international icon since the railroad began with street cars in Michigan City. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003c01c1fc87$20704e20$b450f6d1_@_paul> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:09:35 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Michigan City, IN Gee, that is certainly a weird idea, to use the station for the rail passengers - -----Original Message----- From: Bernie Wagenblast To: Rail Depot List Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:49 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) Michigan City, IN Photo links: http://southshore.railfan.net/ss-34.html http://members.aol.com/metrafan/pmss5.jpg What's next for station? By Jeff Tucker Michigan City officials are talking with the owner of the former South Shore station on 11th Street about creating a public-private partnership honoring the historic railroad and improving the current site. While no offers have been made, Mayor Sheila Brillson said the project could enable the city to join a group of museums throughout the South Shore corridor, being promoted by a group called the South Shore Line Heritage Foundation Inc. That group is proposing to establish a series of mini-museums throughout the South Shore corridor called "The 90-Mile Museum." Station owner Ben Weinschneider of Chicago said he initiated the recent talks to try to infuse some new energy into the renovation project, which has been discussed for years since the station closed in 1987. He said he's interested in some kind of partnership that would include a museum, loft apartment, shops and a restaurant, with some space for train passengers to buy tickets and wait for trains. "I think it's silly that people have to wait outside in a little Plexiglas booth when there's a facility there," Weinschneider said. Gary officials have committed $75,000 for the preliminary architecture for the "main museum" at a site in that city, and the National Park Service has acquired more than a dozen of the South Shore's vintage railroad cars to donate to the museums. "We've discussed our interest in being the epicenter of that 90-mile museum group," Brillson said. "I think this community puts a tremendous value on the historic station and the South Shore's role in our community's history." Brillson wrote the South Shore in March, encouraging railroad officials to reinvest in Michigan City's two stations, the 11th Street station and the city's other South Shore stop at Carroll Avenue. City officials have wanted to restore the 1920s-era 11th Street station for years since it closed Nov. 11, 1987, after the railroad filed bankruptcy. They also say the 11th Street and Carroll Avenue stations have fallen into disrepair in recent years. "The current state of both Michigan City stations discourages tourists from the areas east and west of our county, a situation that directly impacts the economics of this community and of NICTD," Brillson wrote. "It is only reasonable to believe that, with the use of some marketing tools, modernization of both Michigan City NICTD stations would encourage some of the 7 million people who visit Michigan City and LaPorte County (annually), as well as additional tourists, to utilize NICTD's convenient service to this community." Brillson said she hopes the former station at 114 E. 11th St. ultimately will have a mixed use, with enhanced passenger facilities and an outdoor display of vintage South Shore cars, covered by a canopy. She stressed negotiations are in their very preliminary stages, and no offers have yet been made. After the 11th Street station closed in 1987, it was sold a year later to an undisclosed buyer represented by Robert Leiby of Leiby Real Estate & Appraisals, Michigan City. The station was sold again in 1998 to Weinschneider. Weinschneider's group, The South Shore Station LLC, had plans to renovate the building, adding upstairs apartments and businesses downstairs. The property's value was assessed at $77,500 in March 2001. City Planner John Pugh said he has known Weinschneider for about three years and is encouraged by a meeting with him last month. "We did have a preliminary meeting with the owner, hosted by the mayor, and I think the tone of that meeting was very positive and will lead us to future meetings," Pugh said. "I think he is an interested owner, and he wants very much to be a part of the community and the redevelopment of this station. I think he really wants to do something." Pugh said city officials are trying to establish a consortium to redevelop the station, including Weinschneider, the South Shore Line Heritage Foundation and Northern Indiana Commuter Transportation District, owner of the South Shore Line. "What we want to do is before we have another meeting with Ben, is to meet with this railroad foundation group and talk to NICTD in an effort to try and generate interest and bring Mr. Weinschneider to the table with those interested groups," Pugh said. "I don't know when we will reach a conclusion, but the efforts are ongoing and we hope to reach a conclusion soon." NICTD officials said last month they have no long-term plans to have another station in Michigan City, beyond the small outdoor shelter now in the parking lot next to the former 11th Street station. But they said they would consider leasing some indoor space if someone else developed the 11th Street station. They also noted all the museum efforts are handled through the Heritage Foundation, and NICTD doesn't have the funds or memorabilia needed to start a museum. The enhancement of the 11th Street station is a key part of the city's North End redevelopment plan. The plan includes the redevelopment of the entire block bounded by 10th and 11th streets, and between Pine and Franklin streets. The plan released by Arthur Andersen and Camiros consultants in 2001 includes: . Renovating the 11th Street station with a museum, visitor's welcome center and passenger-intermodal facility. . A train display. . Intersection and signal improvements at Wabash, Washington, Franklin and Pine streets. . A new parking area. . New commercial development in the immediate area. In March, the City Councilman Chuck Lungren led the council in vowing to make the renovation of the former South Shore station a top priority this year. Lungren also has been involved in discussions with Weinshneider to refurbish the station to "its former glory." "Let's make it a pet project for this council," Lungren said. Councilwoman Joie Winski said the station could serve as the gateway to the city's downtown "Golden Triangle," of Blue Chip Casino, Lighthouse Place-Premium Outlets and Washington Park. Councilwoman Evelyn Baker said she worked in the 11th Street station for 20 years after completing high school, saying the station used to serve as "the hub of the whole town. Everyone from around town came there, drunk or sober, after the bars closed at night. It really was a nice place to go, a nice place to sit. "That could again be the hub of the city," Baker said. "That's been one of my pet projects for so long." The station's renovation also is supported by various civic groups, including the Michigan City Mainstreet Association, Michigan City Area Chamber of Commerce and Elston Grove Neighborhood Association. "This development is important to the entire city," Ed Kiss of the Mainstreet Association said after the City Council vowed in March to prioritize the station's refurbishment. "It is the first impression of Michigan City that many travelers see. Every day, riders getting off the South Shore at 11th Street or those traveling through the city by train are greeted by this image of Michigan City. "It sends a false image and it doesn't encourage them to shop, visit or invest in our community." The South Shore Line, which will celebrate its 100th anniversary in 2003, is the last electric inter-urban train still operating in the United States. Its familiar orange cars have become an international icon since the railroad began with street cars in Michigan City. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #375 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 13:11:52 -0400 From: Gordy Bjoraker Subject: (rshsdepot) Brantford, Ontario >Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:10:54 -0400 >From: Bernie Wagenblast >Subject: (rshsdepot) Brantford, Ontario > >Photo links: >http://www.old-postcards.com/2030.jpg (Grand Trunk depot) >http://www.old-postcards.com/3827.jpg (CH&B station) >Note: I'm not sure which station is the one that was renovated. If anyone >on the list knows, please pass the information along. Thanks, Bernie, for the color postcards from Brantford, Ontario. VIA uses the Grand Trunk (CNR) depot. There was scaffolding around the tower when I was there 10 years ago. The TH&B (Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo, now part of CPR) depot is also still standing. It is currently used as the Iron Horse Steak House Restaurant, according to "Railway Stations of Ontario" http://web.globalserve.net/~robkath/station.htm maintained by Robert Hughes. Gordy Bjoraker ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00ac01c1fd13$9295eeb0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 15:55:04 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Wilcox, AZ Photo link: http://www.willcoxchamber.com/willcoxchamber/assets/images/depot_thumbnail.g if All aboard: Willcox community saves its historic depot By Carol Broeder/Arizona Range News A handful of residents saw potential in the dilapidated train depot in downtown Willcox, while many others thought it should be torn down. Yet it was construction of this Southern Pacific Depot in 1880 that transformed the tent city known as "Maley's Camp" into the community of Willcox. Of all depots built by the railroad in Arizona during the initial construction of the southern transcontinental railroad between 1871 and 1880, only the Willcox depot remains. Vice-Mayor Dorman Brown was one of the local visionaries who got the restoration project rolling. Charlie and Mary Leighton had the depot put on the national register of historic places, which saved it from demolition, he said. In 1986, Southern Pacific agreed that Willcox could have the depot as long as it was moved nearly 60 feet forward. A depot committee, along with the historical society, the city, Willcox Chamber of Commerce and Agriculture, and other residents, coordinated the project. Kathy Klump was a leader in fund-raising to buy the land to move the depot, Brown said. Over $30,000 was raised locally in contributions as small as 50 cents. The committee also received a grant of $70,000 from the Arizona Heritage Fund and $400,000 from the Arizona Department of Transportation. Brown gives much credit for the successful project to City Manager Larry Rains and his skills in securing the grant and grant writing, and the business negotiations. "It would have never happened without Larry Rains," Brown said. Brown supervised an inmate crew who worked about five months to ready the old depot building for its move. The depot was lifted, put on metal beams, moved on rollers, and placed on a new concrete foundation. The restoration project was put out to bid, with the city as its general contractor. Brown said they had only about $550,000 to do the job, but the lowest bid received was more than $800,000. It was then that Brown offered to engineer and supervise the restoration, and brought the project in under budget. The 1895 freight warehouse was remodeled into the two-story office building that houses City Hall and the1880 lobby was made into a community meeting room. The beautifully-restored depot was dedicated on Sept. 16, 1998, about 115 years after its original construction. The restoration of the Station Master's quarters upstairs was completed last year. Across the street from city hall is a restored railroad car from Mascot and Western, a short line that ran from Willcox to the Dos Cabezas mines. "Our future lays in our past," Brown said, "If we don't preserve our past, then there's no future for our young people." Locals are invited to visit the interpretive display, including a video narrated by Rex Allen, at City Hall during "Free Museum Day" on Saturday, May 18, from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. The Rex Allen Musem and Chiricahua Regional Museum will also be open and free to visitors. There will be refreshments, drawings, and special merchant promotions that day. Entertainment begins at 10 a.m., with a ribbon cutting at the new Dynamic Dance Studio, followed by their performance in Windmill Park at 11 a.m. The Territorial Renegades and Calico Queens will present a play at 2 p.m. in the park. Peter Spooner, an expert in numismatics, will present a talk and an appraisal of coins, tokens, and other small metal objects beginning at 4 p.m., at the Chiricahua Regional Museum. Spooner is the owner of American Stamp and Coin in Tucson. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00b501c1fd15$6c30e9d0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 16:08:19 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Green Forest, AR Restored depot, walking trail are part of park system improvements By Anna Mathews, CCN staff writer Green Forest Tribune GREEN FOREST -- Members of the Community Improvement Committee are moving ahead with plans to improve the city park system by restoring the railroad depot, building a walking trail at the Veterans Park, and developing the 12 acres of land the city recently purchased across from the rodeo grounds and ballfields. Joe Tarvin, with McClelland Engineering, has been providing his expertise, free of charge to the group, in hopes of securing an engineering contract later down the line. At Thursday's meeting, he said a grant application for $100,000 to construct a concrete walking trail and pedestrian bridge had been submitted. "They'll probably give us about half of what we asked for," he stated. "In that case, we could build the pedestrian bridge." He estimated the cost of a 50-foot-long by six-foot-wide bridge to be about $33,000. He said bridges are pre-manufactured and trucked to the site for assembly. The long length, he explained, is required to meet ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) guidelines. The grant application calls for a concrete walking trail, Tarvin said, but could be modified. "This project will allow us to use land that is not presently accessible," he noted, referring to acreage across the creek from the playground area. Tarvin also presented a drawing of proposed usage for the 12-acre site. The drawing included an aquatic park, community center, basketball courts, two soccer fields, kiddie playground, tennis courts, and plenty of parking. The aquatic park, he explained, was modeled after one that was constructed in Prairie Grove, a park that has been highly successful, drawing upwards of 400 paying customers during the day, and rented to church groups and others in the evenings. It features a zero-entry swimming pool that graduates to 12-feet deep, a kiddie pool, two 140-foot water slides with plunge pool, pavilion, picnic areas, concession stand, bathhouse, lockers and lifeguard station. The cost of the aquatic park was $1.6 million, he said, but would likely cost $2.2 million today. "It's an enormously neat thing," he stated. "It's a big draw for the town. It's the hottest thing going." The community center that he proposed for the site was 16,000 square feet in size. After explaining each aspect of the proposal, Tarvin asked for suggestions. Several were offered. Rob Kerby proposed perimeter parking to lessen the likelihood of children dashing between cars, and suggested that the soccer fields be designed as "all-purpose" fields to accommodate other activities such as Mighty Mite football. Diane Norris asked about the possibility of a skateboard area. Tarvin said he could work something up. "Can it be designed so that once the fad passes, we can use it for something else?" Kerby queried. Tarvin said it could. Tarvin also agreed to prepare a price breakdown for each component of the proposal, as requested by Police Chief John Bailey. After some discussion among committee members, it was decided to have Tarvin re-work the proposal -- placing the soccer fields side-by-side, placing the aquatic park and community center side-by-side, adding a skate park, moving the parking to the perimeter, and a few other adjustments. Financing for the project could come from grant funds, from a penny sales tax, or a combination of both. Efforts to secure a Reynolds Foundation grant are still under way. Kerby said there are a few hurdles to cross but prospects look good. "Remember," he stated, "they don't like to be bothered unless the project is at least $2.5 to $4 million." Mayor Leonard Tidyman said he was checking into bond possibilities should the city seek a sales tax to finance part of the project. A one-cent tax would generate $312,000 a year, he said. "We need to make sure we can maintain what we build," Kerby cautioned. Tidyman responded by assuring him that they could. Also during the meeting, Jerry and Janice Tanner reported on their efforts to find funds to relocate and refurbish the historic railroad depot. Janice Tanner said she had spoken with a railroad enthusiast who assured her that there is money available through the Center for Transportation and Commerce in Galveston, Texas for restoration and preservation projects. Jerry Tanner also noted that the Veterans Park may qualify for freebies through the Veterans Administration, freebies such as cannons, airplanes, or tanks. The next meeting of the Community Improvement Committee is set for 5:30 p.m., Thursday, June 6, at City Hall. At that time, Tarvin will present a revised master plan for the 12-acre site, and committee members will offer updates on their efforts to secure financing and grants. Everyone is encouraged to attend and offer their suggestions. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:14:09 -0600 From: "Ken Sweetser" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Wilcox, AZ Greetings: Wanted to let everyone know the URL listed below doesn't exist. Instead, try http://www.willcoxchamber.com/willcoxchamber/html/tourism.html and you should find what you're looking for. Ken >From: Bernie Wagenblast >Reply-To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net >To: Rail Depot List >Subject: (rshsdepot) Wilcox, AZ >Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 15:55:04 -0400 > >Photo link: >http://www.willcoxchamber.com/willcoxchamber/assets/images/depot_thumbnail.g >if > >All aboard: Willcox community saves its historic depot > > > >By Carol Broeder/Arizona Range News > >A handful of residents saw potential in the dilapidated train depot in >downtown Willcox, while many others thought it should be torn down. > >Yet it was construction of this Southern Pacific Depot in 1880 that >transformed the tent city known as "Maley's Camp" into the community of >Willcox. > >Of all depots built by the railroad in Arizona during the initial >construction of the southern transcontinental railroad between 1871 and >1880, only the Willcox depot remains. > >Vice-Mayor Dorman Brown was one of the local visionaries who got the >restoration project rolling. > >Charlie and Mary Leighton had the depot put on the national register of >historic places, which saved it from demolition, he said. > >In 1986, Southern Pacific agreed that Willcox could have the depot as long >as it was moved nearly 60 feet forward. > >A depot committee, along with the historical society, the city, Willcox >Chamber of Commerce and Agriculture, and other residents, coordinated the >project. > >Kathy Klump was a leader in fund-raising to buy the land to move the depot, >Brown said. Over $30,000 was raised locally in contributions as small as 50 >cents. > >The committee also received a grant of $70,000 from the Arizona Heritage >Fund and $400,000 from the Arizona Department of Transportation. > >Brown gives much credit for the successful project to City Manager Larry >Rains and his skills in securing the grant and grant writing, and the >business negotiations. > >"It would have never happened without Larry Rains," Brown said. > >Brown supervised an inmate crew who worked about five months to ready the >old depot building for its move. > >The depot was lifted, put on metal beams, moved on rollers, and placed on a >new concrete foundation. > >The restoration project was put out to bid, with the city as its general >contractor. > >Brown said they had only about $550,000 to do the job, but the lowest bid >received was more than $800,000. > >It was then that Brown offered to engineer and supervise the restoration, >and brought the project in under budget. > >The 1895 freight warehouse was remodeled into the two-story office building >that houses City Hall and the1880 lobby was made into a community meeting >room. > >The beautifully-restored depot was dedicated on Sept. 16, 1998, about 115 >years after its original construction. > >The restoration of the Station Master's quarters upstairs was completed >last >year. Across the street from city hall is a restored railroad car from >Mascot and Western, a short line that ran from Willcox to the Dos Cabezas >mines. > >"Our future lays in our past," Brown said, "If we don't preserve our past, >then there's no future for our young people." > >Locals are invited to visit the interpretive display, including a video >narrated by Rex Allen, at City Hall during "Free Museum Day" on Saturday, >May 18, from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. The Rex Allen Musem and Chiricahua Regional >Museum will also be open and free to visitors. > >There will be refreshments, drawings, and special merchant promotions that >day. Entertainment begins at 10 a.m., with a ribbon cutting at the new >Dynamic Dance Studio, followed by their performance in Windmill Park at 11 >a.m. The Territorial Renegades and Calico Queens will present a play at 2 >p.m. in the park. > >Peter Spooner, an expert in numismatics, will present a talk and an >appraisal of coins, tokens, and other small metal objects beginning at 4 >p.m., at the Chiricahua Regional Museum. Spooner is the owner of American >Stamp and Coin in Tucson. > > >================================= >The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing >railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #376 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <012801c1fd8b$eac2f010$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 06:16:32 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Wahoo, NE Photo links: http://www.co.saunders.ne.us/depo1910.gif (circa 1910) http://www.nebraskahistory.org/images/histpres/nebraska/11393.jpg (contemporary photo) Construction begins on depot restoration From Staff Reports - Wahoo Newspaper WAHOO - Over a century after its original construction, Wahoo's Burlington Northern Depot is undergoing an exterior facelift to return it to the splendor of the 1920s. "Most of the work is underway," Chuck Lacey, Jr., whose Wahoo-based Lacey Construction entered the winning bid on the project, said. "Favorable weather has allowed us to get a lot done." Restoration work on the building, which was constructed in 1866, began three weeks ago. In that timeframe, the Depot has garnered new shingles and a stable, waterproof foundation. Last week, panels -- removed during a residing project a number of years ago - were added below the Depot's first-floor windows. Construction workers also removed six-inch wide trim pieces on a bay window which did not match the four-inchers used in the 1920s. "We had workers in here looking at old pictures to make sure things match up," Saunders County Historical Society Curator Erin Hauser said. "They even counted the individual pieces of siding to make sure the panels were historically correct." Built in 1866 by the Chicago Burlington and Quincy Railroad, the Depot is the last of three which once stood in Wahoo. Burlington closed the depot in 1972, and three years later the Historical Society began caring for the structure, which is on the National Registry of Historic Places. It was last upgraded in the 1980s. That work - on the upper floor - has been credited with saving the overall structure. The current project involves repairs to the exterior as well as bringing the electrical system up to code. Lacey Construction was awarded the project in December, after submitting a low bid of $122,000. Total cost of the renovation will be offset by an $83,000 Nebraska Department of Roads Transportation Enhancement grant. Donations gathered from patrons of the Saunders County Museum will cover the remaining total. Lacey, who admitted that the project is ahead of schedule, has until August to wrap up the upgrades. "It we don't get a lot of rain, I think we'll have this done in the next four to six weeks," Lacey said. Other work to be completed includes the electrical system upgrade, additional grade work to slope water away from the building, the installation of a brick platform (replacing the old wooden one) and refinements on docks. Hailing from Wahoo, Lacey said he is excited to be involved in the project. "We're not really a historical contractor, but this is a pretty neat project," Lacey said. "The construction is no different than what we do on new projects. "Since we're all from Wahoo, it means a lot to restore a building that has been here all our lives. We're hoping it stands another 100 years." And, while the work rolls on the exterior, the museum is currently working on plans for the second phase of the project. That will include repairing the interior, which has suffered from water damage. According to Hauser, it took the museum three years to get the exterior project off the ground. She added that no timetable has been set on the interior work. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #377 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000501c1fe85$5ff82d10$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:02:13 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Macon, GA Link: http://www.cityofmacon.net/Projects/terminal.htm (information & photo) The sale of Terminal Station from Georgia Power to the city of Macon... By Christopher Schwarzen Telegraph Staff Writer The sale of Terminal Station from Georgia Power to the city of Macon is complete, according to sources involved in the sale of the property. The city is poised to take over the property - planned as the city's future multimodal station housing passenger rail, long-distance and local busing options as well as other transportation modes - July 15. The sale was expected to be near $2.5 million, a mix of local and federal funds. Sources connected to the transaction said documents regarding the sale had been signed by the city and were being signed by Georgia Power. City officials said Friday a price has been agreed upon but fell short of confirming papers finalizing the sale had been signed. Macon Mayor Jack Ellis was unavailable for comment. Georgia Power officials also wouldn't confirm the sale, adding they expected the city of Macon to make the announcement. "But it's no secret we're moving out beginning next week," said Theresa Robinson, the company's assistant to the region manager in Macon. About 10 employees will move to facilities at Key Street, which offers more space than what the company was using at Terminal Station, Robinson said. "We won't have an office at Terminal Station at all after this, but some of our furniture will remain until we have to get it out," she said. Conie Mac Darnell, president of NewTown Macon, said he wasn't surprised to hear dealings are about finished. "We had originally thought of a closing date around July 1, when bond money would be available," Darnell said. NewTown will be responsible for creating a plan to use space not needed for transportation. That more than likely will include retail, restaurant and office space, Darnell said. NewTown will invest $300,000 annually for three years to cover operating and development costs. The Macon Transit Authority could be the first transportation mode to use the facility. With improvements at Poplar Street slated for the fall, buses will find their new home at Terminal Station, said Joseph McElroy, director of the Macon Transit Authority. "That will be good for the passengers because they'll be out of the weather and have restroom facilities there," he said. "We'll be using the west wing as a drop-off and can get about 10 buses in there at a time." The transit authority runs about 18 buses during peak times, averaging about 5,700 daily passengers. Plans for passenger rail have been delayed, however, following Gov. Roy Barnes' decision to leave funds for a rail route between Macon and Atlanta out of next year's budget. Ellis has said he expects rail to be delayed until 2012 instead of its original 2005 start date. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000c01c1fe86$164b4930$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:07:19 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Southampton, PA Link: http://www.trainweb.com/railpix/southa1.jpg (October 1997) Plans in store for vacant train station UPPER SOUTHAMPTON - The owner of Munchies Mini Market in Richboro wants to turn the vacant Southampton Train Station into a store or restaurant. Roy Kellet, who has leased the property from SEPTA since 1991, said he's ready to move forward with plans to expand the 1,200-square-foot, two-story building by an additional 600 square feet. Kellet also said the building was in poor shape and needs a complete renovation. He's not sure yet what he's going to do to it, but he said he saw promise in the location along the abandoned Newtown- Fox Chase rail line off Second Street Pike. The building has a 44-spot parking lot, and talk of converting the rail line into a hiking and biking trail has started him thinking again, he said. "I don't know, it could be so many things," he said. "If the bike path comes to life, it would be nice to have some muffins and drinks or an ice cream stand." Kellet met with township officials for the first time last week to discuss his plans. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001601c1fe87$87ed4b00$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:17:39 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Raton, NM Links: http://milliron.home.sprynet.com/Raton_Depot_GIF.gif http://www.edd.state.nm.us/FILM/PHOTOGALLERY/neraton04.htm http://www.old-postcards.com/2741.jpg http://www.lsccs.com/projects/raton/raton.htm (photos & information) Report assesses benefits, impacts of Raton train depot By Todd Wildermuth Editor, The Raton Range If the historic Raton railroad depot was restored and renovated as a modern intermodal transportation center, it could generate an additional 50 local jobs, would increase the value of the First Street depot property by $6 million and would generate an annual property tax boost of $300,000, according to a study conducted by a national organization lobbying for the continued viability and improvement of local train stations. The study done by the Great American Station Foundation emerged following a statewide forum of community and transportation leaders in February. The study was based primarily on interviews with leaders from the seven Amtrak station communities in New Mexico - Raton, Las Vegas, Lamy/Santa Fe, Albuquerque, Gallup, Lordsburg and Deming. With 22,277 passengers getting on and off Amtrak trains in Raton in 2001, the Raton station ranked second only to Albuquerque in passenger numbers in New Mexico. Local officials believe Raton is in danger of losing out on the potential benefits of a renovated train station if Amtrak removes services from the city because of lack of federal funding. Amtrak says it will be forced to shut down its money-losing routes by October unless Congress doubles the railroad's appropriation to $1.2 billion for fiscal year 2003. The report generated by the study is scheduled to be distributed to New Mexico's congressional delegation and will be used as a lobbying tool for continued efforts to keep Amtrak service in Raton. Raton's 3,500-square-foot depot was built in 1904 and designed by Albuquerque architect Charles Whittlesey. It is on the National Register of Historic Places. City officials are continuing negotiations with Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway, owners of the depot. City officials hope to acquire the depot and renovate it into a modern intermodal transportation center serving train and bus passengers while maintaining the depot's historic characteristics. "Our restored depot will serve as a clearinghouse to direct passengers to the history and experiences of Raton," City Manager Eric Honeyfield is quoted in a draft copy of the study's report. "It will lead folks to our retail establishments... It will invite visitors to stay or come back to the area. We view this as essential to regional tourism development strategies." The report goes on to say that if Amtrak abandoned its service through Raton, the city may try to push forward with the depot project, but "the project's schedule would be delayed and its scope, impact and meaning to the community would be diminished." The study also mentions the 3,908 campers who arrived by train in Raton to attend Philmont Scout Ranch near Cimarron last summer. That number represented 15 percent of all the scouts who came to Philmont last summer. "Beyond the numbers who arrive by train, the Boy Scouts would hate to lose the ability to come to Philmont by train," said Philmont Director Mark Anderson. "We place a high value on the experience. It provides the scouts with a connection to their history, to the nation's history and to the ambience and culture of Americana." ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001c01c1fe87$eeee4fc0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:20:32 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Cleburne, TX Photo: http://images.zwire.com/local/Z/ZWIRE1212/zwire/images/ACFA2C7318.jpg (station being torn down) Depot torn down after hearing By: Rob Fraser, Cleburne Times-Review Writer May 17, 2002 Owner, city agree to finish demolition... By 4:45 p.m. Thursday, the Trinity & Brazos Valley Railroad Depot was a pile of rubble.The contractor arrived a few minutes after 4 p.m., cranked up the track hoe that had been used earlier in the day, and finished the job that had been started that morning.T&BV Depot owner Dan Roberts said yesterday afternoon that he, his attorney and the city attorney reached an agreement, which was approved by 18th District Court Judge John Neill, to allow the city to continue the demolition of the building "so there wouldn't be any danger of it falling down on anyone."Roberts said the bricks will be left on the property until he has a chance to get them picked up.Because the contractor is not hauling the bricks, the cost of the deconstruction of the building went from $2,750 to "$1,480, just for the demolition.However, the issue isn't over, Roberts said. On May 30 at 8:30 a.m. there will be a hearing on the injunction in the 18th District Court.Roberts and his attorney, Brooks William "Bill" Conover III, of Joshua, have filed suit against 13 people, individually and in official capacity. Conover said, "And there may be more." Included are the city manager, mayor, council, Fire Chief Clint Ishmael and building standards commission and members.The hurried court hearing Thursday afternoon was scheduled late in the morning as almost half of the depot was on the ground by 11 a.m.Early Thursday morning, Roberts and his attorney were busy putting final touches on their legal paper work seeking an injunction against the demolition of the building while the contractor was off-loading a bulldozer at the site.The contractor and Ishmael reviewed the contract, which was signed and notarized.The contractor walked around the site and looked at the short distance that separated one of the building's walls from two railroad cabooses that are stationed beside the building.He told Ishmael he was not very comfortable using the bulldozer in case some of the building debris fell on one or both of the railroad cars.He and his men left and headed to southeast Fort Worth to pick up a track hoe. A track hoe has an arm that can extend and would be better suited to pull the walls and brick in and prevent it from falling on the cars.While everyone was standing around discussing the situation, Roberts said he might put his truck in the building.A police officer called for a wrecker truck to stand by in case Roberts' vehicle needed to be towed out. Eventually, he did park inside but it was to load some bricks that were already on the ground.The minutes ticked by.Conover, who had been at the courthouse working on obtaining an injunction, arrived on the scene and told Roberts he needed to go to the courthouse.A short time later, Roberts did return and handed Ishmael a copy of the injunction Conover had drafted. Ishmael read it and spent some time talking on his cell phone.All of a sudden, Roberts jumped in his truck and left the area, apparently heading to the courthouse.He was gone only a few minutes when the track hoe arrived. It was unloaded and the deconstruction began.The operator began by using the arm, then punched a couple of holes in the brick and scraped off the veneer of bricks.When close to about half of the building was on the ground, Conover was seen running down the street waving what appeared to be legal papers.He presented them to Ishmael and the chief gave the signal for the operator to cease. The injunction papers were signed by Neill.Roberts said he was saddened by what had happened to the building.Conover described it as "vicious."Roberts also said with almost half of the building on the ground it was truly an unsafe structure now and something would have to be done.Roberts, Conover and Ishmael agreed that the building was unsafe and also agreed to have the rest of the building come down once legal papers were signed.A street department employee closed the section of the street that runs by the building. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002201c1fe88$49b9df50$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:23:04 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Fairfield, CT (new station) Train Station development deal successfully negotiated By: Chris Ciarmiello, Staff reporter May 17, 2002 Fairfield Minuteman Only one month after an Independence Hall meeting room was filled with the sounds of First Selectman Kenneth Flatto's gavel and developer Kurt Wittek's angry objections, the two were all smiles on Monday as they jointly took a major step toward creating the town's long-awaited third train station. Flatto and Wittek, a partner at Stamford-based Blackrock Realty, signed a four-page memorandum of understanding, laying the groundwork for the train station and 930,000 square-foot commercial development at the former Bullards manufacturing site near Commerce Drive. The project would provide the town with much-needed tax revenue, as well as spaces for most of the 1,500-plus people currently on a commuter parking waiting list, according to town officials. "I stood at this podium a few weeks ago ... and the environment in this room was significantly different," Wittek told the Board of Selectmen on Monday afternoon. "We're glad it took this direction at the end." At the April meeting that Wittek referenced, Blackrock Realty officials fumed when Flatto presented his reworking of former First Selectman John Metsopoulos' plan, including plans for the town to acquire part of the 35.6-acre site from the developer by eminent domain or condemnation, if necessary. But having reopened negotiations about two weeks ago, both Flatto and Blackrock Realty officials now say that the new deal is one that will benefit all parties. Under the revised plan, the train depot, an entrance bridge from Kings Highway East, and nearby road improvements would to be completed within 3 to 4 years of the plan's approval, Flatto said. Up to 30,000 square feet of retail and commercial space inside the depot could also be ready by that time, with the bulk of 900,000 square feet of office space being phased in over the next decade or so. According to preliminary estimates, the town would earn $700,000 in tax revenue from the site within three years of the plan's approval, Flatto said. That number would escalate to $2 million by the 10th year after approval. Flatto said he hopes that a final contract between the town, developer, and the Connecticut Department of Transportation will be reached by mid-June. The boards of selectmen and finance and the Representative Town Meeting would then have to approve the town's portion of funding for the project, expected to be about $6 million. State officials did not return a phone call on Tuesday regarding the plan, but Flatto said he believes that "we have their blessing." Monday, the Board of Selectmen approved $65,000 for work that is needed to complete the final contract, such as environmental site assessments. The finance board and RTM also must approve that funding. The details The plan calls for the town to purchase approximately 9 acres of the site - to be selected by the developer - on which it would build at least 1,500 commuter parking spaces. The town would pay $3.75 million for the land, plus an additional $6.06 million for: environmental clean-up and construction of the parking area; the removal of the main Bullards factory building, which is located where the parking area is expected to be; and off-site road improvements. The town would bond $6 million for its share of the project costs, with the other $4 million coming through federal grants. The new station would be compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act, as per the state's requirements and would make it the only compliant train station in Fairfield. The state would shoulder the bulk of the initial costs, paying $16 million to $25 million to construct the train platforms and a bridge that would serve as the station's main exit and entry. The bridge would begin on Kings Highway East between Frank and Timko streets and run over the train tracks, ending up near the parking area. According to the memorandum, Blackrock Realty would give the state no more than 2.2 acres on which to build the platforms and the bridge. The firm would also donate land to the town on which the train depot and ancillary commercial/retail space would be constructed. That area, which would be up to 30,000 square feet, would be leased to Blackrock Realty for $1 per year for 49 years. The firm is expected to sublet the space to tenants that include a hotel chain, restaurants, a day-care facility, and a health club. At least 2,000 square feet of that depot area would be used for a commuter waiting area, the construction of which would be financed by Blackrock Realty. It would include about 500 square feet of police and emergency services space, and, potentially, a state-operated ticket booth. Flatto said he hopes that no more than three or four businesses will be affected by the state's construction of the bridge. The actual number won't be known for sure until the state completes design drawings. Flatto said the town will work closely with those affected businesses to help them relocate. Developer: "Bigger guys" make deal possible Wittek openly acknowledged the tense political situation that developed regarding the train station. Metsopoulos, when he was first selectman, had reached a deal for a 1.3 million square-foot train station development last year before Flatto defeated him in November's election. Metsopoulos' deal was not approved by any town bodies, and Flatto restructured the plan when he took office. Wittek praised Metsopoulos for continuing to support the third train station concept, even though the plan has significantly changed. He also praised Flatto for returning to the negotiating table after Blackrock Realty officials had balked at the first selectman's original reworking of the plan. "It takes somebody of substance to come back to the table" after such a difficult impasse, Wittek said. Referring to both Flatto and Metsopoulos, he said, "I think it takes some bigger guys to do what's been done." ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #378 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002901c1ff26$09e99e30$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 07:12:18 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Hoboken Terminal (Hoboken, NJ) Links: http://www.mrce.com/pages/projects/93-3.shtml (information & photos) http://www.jhpokorny.com/pastjobs/erielack.html (information & photos) http://www.hbrownstone.com/images/rr_station.jpg (historic photo) http://www.hobokenmuseum.org/activities_&_events/walking%20tour/95071.jpg (historic photo) http://www.watermusicrecorders.com/images/ferry.JPG http://www.vintagepostcards.com/catalog/i/i4803.jpg (historic French postcard) Hoboken Terminal to rehab ferry slips 05/17/02 By Jason Fink Jersey Journal staff writer P.A. kicking in $8M to upgrade transit ties Commuter upgrades for Hoboken Terminal HOBOKEN - The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and NJ Transit agreed Wednesday to restore six ferry slips at the hulking Erie-Lackawanna terminal, a move that will likely double the volume of marine traffic and be another step in the ongoing rehabilitation of the century-old building. The Port Authority, the bi- state agency that runs the PATH system out of the terminal building, committed to pay an initial $8 million of the $65 million it is expected to cost to fully renovate the old slips and construct new tickets booths. It has asked the Federal Emergency Management Agency to reimburse the costs of the project because it is primarily a response to the September attacks on the World Trade Center, which knocked out PATH service to Lower Manhattan. "Since Sept. 11 . . . other forms of transportation have been destroyed," Port Authority spokesman Steve Coleman said. "We're paying for it and hoping to get reimbursed." The first $8 million will pay for design of the new slips, with the rest going toward construction. NJ Transit owns the terminal and operates commuter trains out of the station. When the work is complete, NY Waterway, the Weehawken-based company that operates most commuter ferries in the region, will provide service, according to company spokesman Pat Smith. "Restoration of the ferry slips at Hoboken Terminal is one of the long-range strategic plans to increase trans-Hudson capacity and enhance New Jersey's travel options while supporting the rebuilding of Lower Manhattan," Gov. James E. McGreevey said in a written statement. NY Waterway, which has added 20 boats to its fleet and carries twice as many passengers daily as it did before Sept. 11, now runs two routes from temporary slips near the terminal. The company said it could carry double the roughly 13,000 passengers it now takes during the morning peak period between Hoboken and Manhattan. "The key is how many people who come in on bus and rail want to get on the ferry," Smith said. Just last week, it was reported that the city also is in discussions with a major cruise line about using the terminal as its home base. Under the plan announced Wednesday, a portion of the terminal would have to be reconstructed to accommodate ticket offices and the building of exterior walls. NJ Transit officials also list restoring the roof and Tiffany skylights and copper on the building's facade as part of the plan, but it is unclear whether those changes would merely be cosmetic. The ground-floor waiting area of the 96-year old terminal has been restored and officials are hoping the spacious second-floor, which is plagued by peeling paint, crumbling interiors and decades of general neglect, is next on the list for improvements. One plan, advocated by Hoboken Mayor David Roberts, envisions retail shops and restaurants in and around the building. In that scenario, businesses would pay for large parts of the restoration. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003201c1ff35$20863360$3d4f1c43_@_oemcomputer> References: <000c01c1fe86$164b4930$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 13:00:16 -0000 From: "Gene Paoli" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Southampton, PA The Southampton station is a standard Wilson Brothers and Company of Philadelphia design executed by the P&R at several locations (Churchville, Georges School, Audobon-NJ, Collingswood-NJ, etc, etc....to mention a few. The design allowed for single or two stories, one or two corner bias bays, multiple dormers, arched entry (ref: Haddon Heights-NJ) and shingle or horizontal siding. Croyden was a carbon copy as well. (Ref: Phila. Engineering and Building Record, field study and Wilson Bros.; Catalogue of Works executed) Gene Paoli stationman_@_prodigy.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernie Wagenblast To: Rail Depot List Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) Southampton, PA > Link: > http://www.trainweb.com/railpix/southa1.jpg (October 1997) > > Plans in store for vacant train station > UPPER SOUTHAMPTON - The owner of Munchies Mini Market in Richboro wants to > turn the vacant Southampton Train Station into a store or restaurant. > > Roy Kellet, who has leased the property from SEPTA since 1991, said he's > ready to move forward with plans to expand the 1,200-square-foot, two-story > building by an additional 600 square feet. > > Kellet also said the building was in poor shape and needs a complete > renovation. He's not sure yet what he's going to do to it, but he said he > saw promise in the location along the abandoned Newtown- Fox Chase rail line > off Second Street Pike. > > The building has a 44-spot parking lot, and talk of converting the rail line > into a hiking and biking trail has started him thinking again, he said. > > "I don't know, it could be so many things," he said. "If the bike path comes > to life, it would be nice to have some muffins and drinks or an ice cream > stand." > > Kellet met with township officials for the first time last week to discuss > his plans. > > > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000e01c1ff64$113b5c80$e549f6d1_@_paul> Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:36:07 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Hoboken Terminal (Hoboken, NJ) Now I know some of you ignore me as an unknowing Philistine (please at least use unknowing Pict or unknowing Yani, please!), but I really must know... The ferry concourse at DL&W Hoboken terminal. is a very impressive, historic and noteworthy space. Many is a time I have taking a tourist, a friend visiting this area for the first time... I take them to Hoboken, gone to the magnificent Hoboken terminal. The green copper Victorian outside is very impressive. This may be the only or at least the best remaining example of this style. The only other ferry architecture of the turn of the century styling in the NY harbor is the Whitehall Ferry slips to the north of Staten island ferry terminal. Yes, there is still the earlier CNJ at Communipaw, but the ferry slips are gone. It is historical preservation with the main element of the train station missing... The Hoboken terminal is the oldest still used terminal, still used by an arriving train. still used by passengers. A fin-de-siecle still essential railroad station still in use, 100 years soon, still serving the populace, the commuters. The only other one still in NY, also in need of arriving inter-city passenger trains, is GCT Brooklyn is gone, Penn Station in Manhattan, is that still there! Erie at Pavonia gone. CNJ a interactive museum.. Yes; so I take the visitors to DLW Hoboken, and they see the outside, approached from the street, even if you take the PATH which you can exit to the track area....That it is a working railroad station, they finally replaced the turn of the twentieth century, with mid century additions, sign boards and track number signs, know they possibly regret that...The neglected elegance was still there in the seventies, and god knows what they did to it when they replaced with the standard signs and boards... And the concourse of the station for the ferries.. THE SECOND LARGEST SUCH SPACE ONLY SUPPORTED AT THE ENDS, THE LONGEST: THE HALL AT VERSAISE. This is an amazing space; I love it where the east end has fancy wood and gold raised letters at the gate (I always imagined this was o film Funny Girl, being a romantic--this may not be so... But if you go up there via the grand stairs inside from the now cleaned up and waiting room, with the stained glass skylight, that back with the ancient signs, had still been blacked out... I do hope that this talk of new terminals, if this new rebirth of the old ferry slips, the dangling and missing old walkways from the ferry, that this will be used again.....but not as a car ferry, so I guess different slips, perhaps the new station will not even need or use the concourse area, maybe they will spare it... But ill they chop into it, destroy it....Just because it is not as ornate (any more?) inside, will they still see that this section is a landmark as well, and an amazing visual area.. I have imagined it fixed up. what it looked like without the lack of much light and grimy surroundings.....I never got a good picture of this space, a flash is useless and real light has so much contrast....... So are they fixing that area up to use, or are they knocking it down? Are they saving and enhancing the unique architecture or altering and destroying it??? I will now look at the pictures and see that it shows what I am asking about! Pray tell.... Paul - -----Original Message----- From: Bernie Wagenblast To: Rail Depot List Date: Sunday, May 19, 2002 7:13 AM Subject: (rshsdepot) Hoboken Terminal (Hoboken, NJ) Links: http://www.mrce.com/pages/projects/93-3.shtml (information & photos) http://www.jhpokorny.com/pastjobs/erielack.html (information & photos) http://www.hbrownstone.com/images/rr_station.jpg (historic photo) http://www.hobokenmuseum.org/activities_&_events/walking%20tour/95071.jpg (historic photo) http://www.watermusicrecorders.com/images/ferry.JPG http://www.vintagepostcards.com/catalog/i/i4803.jpg (historic French postcard) Hoboken Terminal to rehab ferry slips 05/17/02 By Jason Fink Jersey Journal staff writer P.A. kicking in $8M to upgrade transit ties Commuter upgrades for Hoboken Terminal HOBOKEN - The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and NJ Transit agreed Wednesday to restore six ferry slips at the hulking Erie-Lackawanna terminal, a move that will likely double the volume of marine traffic and be another step in the ongoing rehabilitation of the century-old building. The Port Authority, the bi- state agency that runs the PATH system out of the terminal building, committed to pay an initial $8 million of the $65 million it is expected to cost to fully renovate the old slips and construct new tickets booths. It has asked the Federal Emergency Management Agency to reimburse the costs of the project because it is primarily a response to the September attacks on the World Trade Center, which knocked out PATH service to Lower Manhattan. "Since Sept. 11 . . . other forms of transportation have been destroyed," Port Authority spokesman Steve Coleman said. "We're paying for it and hoping to get reimbursed." The first $8 million will pay for design of the new slips, with the rest going toward construction. NJ Transit owns the terminal and operates commuter trains out of the station. When the work is complete, NY Waterway, the Weehawken-based company that operates most commuter ferries in the region, will provide service, according to company spokesman Pat Smith. "Restoration of the ferry slips at Hoboken Terminal is one of the long-range strategic plans to increase trans-Hudson capacity and enhance New Jersey's travel options while supporting the rebuilding of Lower Manhattan," Gov. James E. McGreevey said in a written statement. NY Waterway, which has added 20 boats to its fleet and carries twice as many passengers daily as it did before Sept. 11, now runs two routes from temporary slips near the terminal. The company said it could carry double the roughly 13,000 passengers it now takes during the morning peak period between Hoboken and Manhattan. "The key is how many people who come in on bus and rail want to get on the ferry," Smith said. Just last week, it was reported that the city also is in discussions with a major cruise line about using the terminal as its home base. Under the plan announced Wednesday, a portion of the terminal would have to be reconstructed to accommodate ticket offices and the building of exterior walls. NJ Transit officials also list restoring the roof and Tiffany skylights and copper on the building's facade as part of the plan, but it is unclear whether those changes would merely be cosmetic. The ground-floor waiting area of the 96-year old terminal has been restored and officials are hoping the spacious second-floor, which is plagued by peeling paint, crumbling interiors and decades of general neglect, is next on the list for improvements. One plan, advocated by Hoboken Mayor David Roberts, envisions retail shops and restaurants in and around the building. In that scenario, businesses would pay for large parts of the restoration. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001101c1ffa8$67e90e80$8951f6d1_@_paul> Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 22:45:12 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Fw: Fw: (rshsdepot) Fairfield, CT (new station) My friend has questions, any answers? - -----Original Message----- From: Henry Rosenberg To: Paul S. Luchter Cc: BobbieRL_@_aol.com Date: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Fw: (rshsdepot) Fairfield, CT (new station) >Paul -At present there are 2 RR stations within the town limits of >Farifield, viz. Fairfield and Southport. Do these people expect to keep 3 >active stations? I dunno. Will they try to steal Amtrak service away from >Bpt? I wouldn't be surprised. What do they plan to do with existing >stations? I dunno. Henry >At 08:13 PM 5/18/02 -0400, you wrote: >>What does it mean that this would be the only (disability) compliant >>railroad station in Fairfield? How do they have more than one? >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Bernie Wagenblast >>To: Rail Depot List >>Date: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:23 PM >>Subject: (rshsdepot) Fairfield, CT (new station) >> >> >> >>Train Station development deal successfully negotiated >> >>By: Chris Ciarmiello, Staff reporter May 17, 2002 >>Fairfield Minuteman >> >>Only one month after an Independence Hall meeting room was filled with the >>sounds of First Selectman Kenneth Flatto's gavel and developer Kurt Wittek's >>angry objections, the two were all smiles on Monday as they jointly took a >>major step toward creating the town's long-awaited third train station. >> >>Flatto and Wittek, a partner at Stamford-based Blackrock Realty, signed a >>four-page memorandum of understanding, laying the groundwork for the train >>station and 930,000 square-foot commercial development at the former >>Bullards manufacturing site near Commerce Drive. >>The project would provide the town with much-needed tax revenue, as well as >>spaces for most of the 1,500-plus people currently on a commuter parking >>waiting list, according to town officials. >>"I stood at this podium a few weeks ago ... and the environment in this room >>was significantly different," Wittek told the Board of Selectmen on Monday >>afternoon. "We're glad it took this direction at the end." >>At the April meeting that Wittek referenced, Blackrock Realty officials >>fumed when Flatto presented his reworking of former First Selectman John >>Metsopoulos' plan, including plans for the town to acquire part of the >>35.6-acre site from the developer by eminent domain or condemnation, if >>necessary. >>But having reopened negotiations about two weeks ago, both Flatto and >>Blackrock Realty officials now say that the new deal is one that will >>benefit all parties. >>Under the revised plan, the train depot, an entrance bridge from Kings >>Highway East, and nearby road improvements would to be completed within 3 to >>4 years of the plan's approval, Flatto said. Up to 30,000 square feet of >>retail and commercial space inside the depot could also be ready by that >>time, with the bulk of 900,000 square feet of office space being phased in >>over the next decade or so. >>According to preliminary estimates, the town would earn $700,000 in tax >>revenue from the site within three years of the plan's approval, Flatto >>said. That number would escalate to $2 million by the 10th year after >>approval. >>Flatto said he hopes that a final contract between the town, developer, and >>the Connecticut Department of Transportation will be reached by mid-June. >>The boards of selectmen and finance and the Representative Town Meeting >>would then have to approve the town's portion of funding for the project, >>expected to be about $6 million. >>State officials did not return a phone call on Tuesday regarding the plan, >>but Flatto said he believes that "we have their blessing." >>Monday, the Board of Selectmen approved $65,000 for work that is needed to >>complete the final contract, such as environmental site assessments. The >>finance board and RTM also must approve that funding. >>The details >>The plan calls for the town to purchase approximately 9 acres of the site - >>to be selected by the developer - on which it would build at least 1,500 >>commuter parking spaces. The town would pay $3.75 million for the land, plus >>an additional $6.06 million for: environmental clean-up and construction of >>the parking area; the removal of the main Bullards factory building, which >>is located where the parking area is expected to be; and off-site road >>improvements. >>The town would bond $6 million for its share of the project costs, with the >>other $4 million coming through federal grants. >>The new station would be compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act, >>as per the state's requirements and would make it the only compliant train >>station in Fairfield. >>The state would shoulder the bulk of the initial costs, paying $16 million >>to $25 million to construct the train platforms and a bridge that would >>serve as the station's main exit and entry. The bridge would begin on Kings >>Highway East between Frank and Timko streets and run over the train tracks, >>ending up near the parking area. >>According to the memorandum, Blackrock Realty would give the state no more >>than 2.2 acres on which to build the platforms and the bridge. >>The firm would also donate land to the town on which the train depot and >>ancillary commercial/retail space would be constructed. That area, which >>would be up to 30,000 square feet, would be leased to Blackrock Realty for >>$1 per year for 49 years. The firm is expected to sublet the space to >>tenants that include a hotel chain, restaurants, a day-care facility, and a >>health club. >>At least 2,000 square feet of that depot area would be used for a commuter >>waiting area, the construction of which would be financed by Blackrock >>Realty. It would include about 500 square feet of police and emergency >>services space, and, potentially, a state-operated ticket booth. >>Flatto said he hopes that no more than three or four businesses will be >>affected by the state's construction of the bridge. The actual number won't >>be known for sure until the state completes design drawings. Flatto said the >>town will work closely with those affected businesses to help them relocate. >>Developer: "Bigger guys" make deal possible >>Wittek openly acknowledged the tense political situation that developed >>regarding the train station. Metsopoulos, when he was first selectman, had >>reached a deal for a 1.3 million square-foot train station development last >>year before Flatto defeated him in November's election. Metsopoulos' deal >>was not approved by any town bodies, and Flatto restructured the plan when >>he took office. >>Wittek praised Metsopoulos for continuing to support the third train station >>concept, even though the plan has significantly changed. >>He also praised Flatto for returning to the negotiating table after >>Blackrock Realty officials had balked at the first selectman's original >>reworking of the plan. "It takes somebody of substance to come back to the >>table" after such a difficult impasse, Wittek said. >>Referring to both Flatto and Metsopoulos, he said, "I think it takes some >>bigger guys to do what's been done." >> >>================================= >>The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing >>railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #379 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <000301c20075$89b96f00$1fa99840_@_paul> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 01:57:40 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Bittersweet passing at Stockbridge Station on the HRR: http://homepage.mac.com/housatonic/HRRCstockbridge-pp.JPG a very nice picture ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #380 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002101c200af$d97f4a70$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 06:11:18 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Fort Madison, IA Revamped F.M. depot museum shows off New displays in place, ready for quick move if another flood threatens. By Stephen A. Martin The Hawk Eye FORT MADISON - When the Mississippi River again floods Riverview Park, the Santa Fe Depot Museum will be ready. An open house and car show Sunday drew about 2,000 people to the North Lee County Historical Society's museum complex, and volunteers showed off the results of a top-to-bottom rebuilding effort. "We're trying to make everything so when the next flood comes, it won't do quite as much damage," said Francis Boone, an Iowa Workforce Development crew leader. Boone's crew and another group of laborers put the museum back together after last year's flood ripped through the displays. The previous crew concentrated mostly on the exterior, while Boone's crew built new display cases and worked on the interior. "We just did a little bit of everything," he said. Museum displays are now arranged chronologically, starting with American Indian artifacts and interpretive displays and leading through exhibits on Victorian-era architecture, early industries and an expanded display of railroad artifacts that takes up about half of the old depot's passenger lounge. "Everything really came through the flood quite well," said Michelle Young, an historical society board member. Everything, that is, except the fixtures. Most of them were ruined and had to be rebuilt. The new ones are built so that things can be put up high when the possibility of a flood again threatens the facility. Even the museum's centerpiece display, the Volkswagen-sized swingspan control panel from the Santa Fe Bridge, is on wheels. "It can be taken out when it floods again," Young said. Numerous items that weren't displayed before are on display now. Among them are the art collection of the late Louis Koch, who painted scenes of community life. William Brown's collection of railroad artifacts has been added, and a number of items donated by descendants of Issac Galland are on display. When the museum's first set of displays made their debut 25 years ago, said Dave Sallen, historical society vice president, the museum won praise and regional acclaim. But that was 25 years ago, Sallen said. "It was starting to get stale," he said. The flood gave officials a reason to change things. In addition to the new collections on display, the museum also has a new children's area. People expect more from museums now, Sallen said, and many have added places where children can touch as well as see pieces of the past. A computer gives children the chance to drive a train or fight the Civil War, while nearby there is an antique cash register where they can pretend to be shopkeepers in one of Fort Madison's early stores. The museum renovations aren't done yet, Sallen said. There will be scaled-down versions of period clothing that young people can try on in the children's' room, while the rest of the museum will eventually get tags and labels that tell visitors about each artifact. A flood insurance check paid for much of the work, but a state program is responsible for most of what visitors are now able to see. "We couldn't have paid the salary it would take to bring the main depot back where it was," Sallen said. Similar to the Great Depression-era Works Progress Administration, the Workforce Development program puts crews of workers on the job doing community projects. Boone lost his job when the Wabash National Corp. plant closed in Fort Madison. Other members of IWD work crews are also former Wabash employees. "It helps them out and it helps us out," Boone said. The museum opens its regular season next week, and will be open Wednesday through Saturday from 12:30 to 4:30 p.m. each day through Labor Day weekend. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 13:34:41 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Secaucus (NJ) Transfer opening delayed From the Middletown, NY Times Herald-Record http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2002/05/21/jrsecauc.htm May 21, 2002 Secaucus transfer delayed due to Sept. 11 aftermath By Judy Rife Times Herald-Record jrife_@_th-record.com Secaucus, N.J. =96 NJ Transit, overwhelmed by the post-9/11 shift in commuting patterns, may delay opening the Secaucus transfer by as much as a year. Ken Miller, a spokesman for NJ Transit, said yesterday that the agency will not open the transfer in December as originally scheduled. And it may be forced to link the opening of Secaucus to that of the new temporary PATH station at the former World Trade Center in December 2003. "Our current ridership surges on New York-bound trains do not give us enough room to handle the number of [potential] passengers transferring at Secaucus,'' said Miller, explaining the new PATH station will ease some of the overcrowding on its trains. The new $450 million transfer in the Meadowlands will connect 11 rail lines and give commuters from Orange and Rockland counties, as well as many parts of New Jersey, the option of transferring to trains bound for Penn Station in midtown Manhattan, for the first time, or continuing to Hoboken as they do now. Metro-North Railroad and NJ Transit have committed millions of dollars to upgrading stations, expanding parking lots and buying new equipment, in anticipation of a surge in ridership once Secaucus opens. Metro-North, which now has about 3,000 riders on its Port Jervis and Pascack Valley lines, projects a 60 percent increase in ridership over five years as commuters abandon their cars or buses to take the train to midtown. The railroad contracts with NJ Transit to operate its west-of-Hudson service and has contributed $54 million to Secaucus. "We're disappointed, of course, but we will continue to work with NJ Transit to open Secaucus as quickly as possible," said Margie Anders, a spokeswoman for Metro-North. Before the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, NJ Transit's three lines that have always traveled into Penn Station carried 33,700 commuters during the morning rush. By Oct. 1, that number had jumped to 48,500. Today, it is 44,000. The sudden increases pushed the already notoriously overcrowded trains, on the Northeast Corridor, Morris and Essex and North Jersey Coast lines, to 145 percent of capacity. On many days, conductors don't collect tickets because people are packed so tightly into the cars that they can't get through. These are the trains to which commuters on the Port Jervis and Pascack Valley lines and other New Jersey lines will transfer when Secaucus opens. "People ask why we can't add more cars to the trains and we can't because the trains would be longer than the platforms at Penn Station,'' said Miller, adding NJ Transit is using every piece of equipment it owns pending delivery of hundreds of new cars. Amtrak, which owns the only tunnels beneath the Hudson River to Penn Station, allowed NJ Transit a modest increase in their use after 9/11. The two railroads are negotiating another increase that would permit NJ Transit, once new equipment arrives, new signal systems are installed and Secaucus opens, to run more trains more frequently into midtown Manhattan. Miller, however, said the agency doesn't know exactly when or how all these disparate pieces will come together to make Secaucus work. As a result, it will be analyzing changes in commuting patterns and train capacity on a continuing basis to determine exactly when it can open the new transfer and get everybody through the tunnels effectively. "The biggest piece of that [equation] is the WTC station,'' he said. Thousands of the NJ Transit commuters riding into Penn Station today used to transfer at Newark to PATH trains to the World Trade Center. Now they are staying on NJ Transit and using city subways, buses and shoe leather to reach their offices downtown rather than switching to the remaining PATH line to 33rd Street =96 and then getting on a subway. Thousands more have been relocated to midtown. How many of them will eventually return downtown is anybody's guess =96 and a key reason that the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey has moved so quickly to rebuild the PATH system and prevent it from becoming an excuse for companies to relocate. At least 20 percent of the 600,000 jobs in lower Manhattan were held by people who live west of the Hudson River. More than 60,000 commuters took PATH to the World Trade Center before 9/11 and 25,000 took PATH to 33rd Street. Now, 41,000 use the 33rd Street line and some of its stations are so crowded that people can't enter and exit at the same time. Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority, said contractors have been on the $300 million job since January, gutting and repairing the tunnels. As soon as the remaining debris is cleared from the pit =96 as the World Trade Center site is called =96 later this month, work will begin on the station. The Exchange Place station, in New Jersey, will come on line first, in June 2003, and the World Trade Center station, in December 2003. Exchange Place is not only the turnout for World Trade Center trains but also the gateway to New Jersey's "Gold Coast" of corporate offices and a destination for many reverse commuters from Manhattan. Stations along the 33rd Street line will also be renovated to boost their capacity. "We've written incentives into the contract to get the work done faster but how much faster when it's an already accelerated schedule, I don't know,'' said Colemen. "Regardless, we're committed to those dates." Without paying a premium for fast-tracking, the Port Authority estimates the work would have taken upwards of four years rather than two to complete. In the interim, it has also spent millions to build new docks on both sides of the Hudson so that NY Waterway could expand ferry services and relieve PATH =96 and it has. Almost twice as many commuters, 28,000, are taking ferries from various points in New Jersey to the city since Sept. 11. Meanwhile, Miller said, construction of the Secaucus transfer remains on schedule and shouldn't be an issue in its opening at any date. The work, which began in 1995, has been largely invisible because it is done at night to avoid disrupting the 400 trains that pass through Secaucus every day. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <00f601c20100$729cc660$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:48:15 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Spokane, WA (part of station) Links: http://dark.seanet.com/wolff/images/tower.jpg (photo of tower) http://www.nationalrrmuseum.org/stations/spokane.htm (postcard view with station) Spokane Clocktower clock may run again next week Riverfront Park's landmark Clocktower has been stuck at a little past 1 o'clock for two months now, but could be running again by early next week. The Spokane Parks and Recreation Department spent about $31,000 to repair unsafe floors inside the tower, which was built in 1902 as part of the Great Northern Railroad depot. The rest of the station was torn down for Expo '74. The recent round of repairs was necessary because the observation deck floor and the floor beneath it had rotted after being exposed to the elements, said Doug Schwab, the maintenance foreman at Riverfront Park. The tower's design incorporates open windows at the top level, allowing rain to seep inside. Roofing material was installed on the top floor to prolong its life and keep water from the floor below. The clock must be wound at least every eight days to keep running, said Schwab. Before the repairs, the tower was deemed too unsafe for Schwab to climb up to wind the clock. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:25:51 +0000 From: "Don Dorflinger" Subject: (rshsdepot) RE: NJ Trainstation Website Anyone know what became of the New Jersey Train Stations website? It seems to have just disappeared from the face of the earth...Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <005001c20140$54c497e0$ab62f6d1_@_paul> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 23:25:29 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) LIRR news from 1931 Today I was squinting at dark microfilm of the Nassau Daily Review from September and October 1931....Freeport was against the elevating of the railroad (they lost but I don't remember when, maybe soon after)...Then was a front page story about the LIRR planning to close the Hempstead freight depot..there was a picture but the dark microfilm makes copying pointless-Today in Hempstead I couldn't even guess where this freight yard was....It also gave plans for the RR, to electrify the Central line and put passenger service to Babylon (the electric to Salisbury happened), to close the passenger service at Fulton Street (I am not even sure what line this was on, I think this was the old line south from Garden City), there was other stuff...if I can find it again I will go back and copy and squint at it at home and report more...Anyone with info on Hempstead freight depot and the Fulton Street station please reply... There was also on 10/8/1931 the arrival in the Orient of Clyde Pangborn and Hugh Herndon after completing the first non-stop Trans-Pacific flight- 4,265 miles; this was not the non-stop distance record, that being in July of '31 by John Polano & Russell Boardman, New York City to Istanbul-5,011 miles...I guess these guys aren't famous because Lindbergh was not only first but did it solo (going up to 5,000 feet at night so in case he fell asleep so he could recover in time), also Lindbergh had no front window, only a periscope... I realize the second part of my message is sort of an anti-rail piece, as Lindbergh almost directly led to viable passenger plane travel.. There was also an article in this 1931 paper praising the library I was in (but not the building) which was quite weird. Paul Luchter ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <006101c2013f$def8a600$fe805043_@_JimDent> References: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 23:22:15 -0400 From: Jim Dent Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) RE: NJ Trainstation Website Don, I have been told by Dan that this is temporary and that the site will be back. Jim Dent - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Dorflinger" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) RE: NJ Trainstation Website > > > Anyone know what became of the New Jersey Train Stations website? It seems to have just disappeared from the face of the earth...Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #381 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001601c20178$98bef570$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 06:08:18 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) New London, CT Photo links: http://project1.parsons.com/ptgnechsr/images/larger%20images/to_207_N%20_LON DON_jw.jpg http://www.eoneill.com/library/touring/images/1b.jpg (1910) http://www.rootsandroutes.net/images/pcard3.jpg (color postcard) For-sale sign down on Union Station while owners consider what to do next By David Collins The Day Published on 05/21/2002 New London - A real estate listing for Union Station, the signature building on the city's waterfront, has been put on hold indefinitely, but an agent who has been marketing the property says the owners would still consider any new purchase offers that arise. The 114-year-old train station, designed by legendary architect Henry Hobson Richardson, was put up for sale last year, after a city-sponsored plan to turn it into a visitors' center unraveled. The station was widely marketed throughout the Northeast, and there was some serious interest in the building but no successful purchase offers, according to Jim White of U.S. Properties in New London, the broker who handled the listing. The asking price was $2.37 million. White said Monday the partnership that owns the building, with principals in Boston and Washington, recently decided to take it off the market while they decide what to do next. "However, the owners would always consider a serious offer," White added. The city's plan to buy the station and use it as a visitors' center was scrapped after Gov. John G. Rowland backed away from a proposal to help fund the purchase and renovations with state bond money. With $5.5 million from the state, the city had hoped to purchase the station for $2.2 million and use the balance for improvements. In return, the state Department of Environmental Protection would have operated its Thames Maritime Heritage Park visitors' center in the station, rent-free, for 20 years. The visitor center plans are also indefinitely on hold, with no immediate prospects for state funding, City Manager Richard Brown said Monday. The red brick train station at the foot of State Street has about 23,000 square feet of vacant office space, located on the second and third floors, above the main lobby area. The office space is in good condition, according to White. The lease with Amtrak has expired and the railroad is renting space in the station on a month-to-month basis. The lease with Greyhound, which uses part of the station for a bus depot, expires in 2004, White said. Among those expressing an interest in the real estate listing were groups interested in buildings designed by Richardson, White said, and the owners would like to continue to preserve the historical integrity of the building. It will also surely remain the city's train station, he added. "I'm sure it is everyone's vision that it will also always be the central train station for New London." White said. "I don't think anyone ever thought it would be anything different." ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <007f01c2018e$280e3a00$11bc4781_@_computer> References: <182.8031ca2.2a0993fc_@_aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:29:16 -0400 From: "Don Mills, Jr." Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Waverly, OH Do you know the date when this was done. I want to put something in a rail newsletter regarding same. Don Mills - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Waverly, OH > In a message dated 5/7/2002 3:50:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jdent1_@_optonline.net writes: > > > > I have been informed that the DT&I depot in Waverly, Ohio (Pike County) has > > been demolished. This was not unexpected; per Dan West's "Existing Ohio > > Stations" website (http://www.west2k.com/ohio.htm) the depot was slated for > > demolition by the city. > > For a photo of the Waverly depot go to: > http://www.dtirr.com/images/waverly.gif (1982 view) > > Bernie Wagenblast > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 14:08:56 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: RE: Re: (rshsdepot) Waverly, OH No, I don't have an exact date. A friend's family lives in the Waverly area and noticed it was gone one day. Original Message: - ----------------- From: Don Mills, Jr. dmills_@_marshall.edu Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:29:16 -0400 To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Waverly, OH Do you know the date when this was done. I want to put something in a rail newsletter regarding same. Don Mills - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Waverly, OH > In a message dated 5/7/2002 3:50:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jdent1_@_optonline.net writes: > > > > I have been informed that the DT&I depot in Waverly, Ohio (Pike County) has > > been demolished. This was not unexpected; per Dan West's "Existing Ohio > > Stations" website (http://www.west2k.com/ohio.htm) the depot was slated for > > demolition by the city. > > For a photo of the Waverly depot go to: > http://www.dtirr.com/images/waverly.gif (1982 view) > > Bernie Wagenblast > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <155.e4511fd.2a1dc81a_@_aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 00:20:42 EDT From: Mrhorn55_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) LIRR news from 1931 I believe the freight station was located on the west side of the existing passenger station as I remember as a young fellow (early 1950s) tracks in the parking lot there. The answer to the second question is that the station was the old Central Railroad of Long Island station. Remember that at one time there were tree railroads in Hempstead; the LIRR, Cent RR of LI and the Southside RR. All had stations. Also check Vincent Seyfried's books on the LIRR for additional details. Dick Horn ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <006001c20215$e3dd5fe0$2f4ef6d1_@_paul> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 00:54:12 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) LIRR news from 1931 ah, that was the Hempstead freight station that followed the closing of the one in question...this article is now copied and I will transfer via y pecking to a message to follow.. Paul - -----Original Message----- From: Mrhorn55_@_aol.com To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net Date: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:22 AM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) LIRR news from 1931 >I believe the freight station was located on the west side of the existing >passenger station as I remember as a young fellow (early 1950s) tracks in the >parking lot there. The answer to the second question is that the station was >the old Central Railroad of Long Island station. Remember that at one time >there were tree railroads in Hempstead; the LIRR, Cent RR of LI and the >Southside RR. All had stations. >Also check Vincent Seyfried's books on the LIRR for additional details. >Dick Horn >================================= >The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing >railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <006201c2021f$53d7f9a0$2f4ef6d1_@_paul> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 02:01:42 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) "Long Island May Abandon Station, Hempstead Spur" In re-reading the following article I realize the Hempstead branch was not abandoned as stated (the dead-end line)...others can comment on all the rest...[the loop service I don't know if that ever happened, now the West Hempstead branch is also dead end...Also Dick is probably right that this was the freight depot he remembers because I am not sure any of the following was ever approved..There was never a Hempstead station at North Franklin as far as I know...Wait until the "busses" part! From the Nassau Daily Review Sept. 10, 1931 [front page] "Long Island May Abandon Station, Hempstead Spur" Village Committee Hears Plans of Railroad That Include Removal Of Freight Shed; Double Tracking, Too Removal of The Hempstead freight station from Main Street as advocated by the association of commerce, can be accomplished in plans now being studied and considered by the Long Island railroad, George LeBoutillier, vice-president of the Pennsylvania system in charge of the Long Island division, told a committee from the commerce organization at a conference at the Hempstead city club yesterday. The Changes Proposed The plans, said Mr. LeBoutillier, involve the following proposed changes affecting the Hempstead branch: 1.--Abandoning of the Hempstead spur to the Fulton Avenue passenger station from Garden City. 2.--A new Hempstead passenger station on the West Hempstead branch at North Franklin street near the Garden City line. 3.--Double tracking of the West Hempstead branch which forms a loop running through the north-western section of Hempstead. 4.--The unloading of freight consigned to Hempstead at a station near the fairgrounds in Mineola. 5.--Electrification of the central extension past Mitchel Field, eventually to Babylon, to serve the eastern section of the Hempstead area. We Ask More Details Although the conference was arranged by the association of commerce primarily to discuss shifting the freight station from Main street, the revelation the railroad considered eliminating the spur that terminates at the Hempstead passenger station gave the meting an added importance. Mr. LeBoutilier was accompanied by L. J. Caruthers, railroad attorney. The association of commerce committee was: Charles J. Futz; chairman, George H. Blanchard, president; Arthur W. Brierley, Cyril E. Marshall, J. Eugene Geaf, Charles W. Walker, Franklin M. Mollireaux, K. B. Van de Water, Charles W. Walker and Paul Price. It was suggested the railroad's plans, which are in a tentative state, be submitted in more detail to a smaller committee. Mr LeBoutillier said he would have the complete plan drawn, showing reasons why it is more workable than the present system. [In middle of second sentence the article was continued on page three. with a new sub-heading reading: Railroad Reveals Plans For Quitting Spur From Garden City...and a photo with caption which will be mentioned at end of article...] In advancing the plan, the railroad is considering, the company official said, it took into account four tracks for the present line into Mineola, double tracks where necessary, on the West Hempstead branch between Mineola and Valley Stream, which with the present line between Garden City and Floral Park, would provide loop service over two routes in each direction between the stations in this area and the city terminal. Electrification Discussed In answer to a question, it was stated that on the loop extension through Mineola the running time of the trains would be lengthened about three minutes, while on the loop through Garden City the time would remain substantially as it is. Reasons given by the railroad officials for the contemplated abandoning of the Hempstead branch are that it is a dead-end line and does not fit in with the projected loop systems. Regarding the freight business, Mr LeBoutilier aid it had been suggested the Hempstead freight business could be combined with a new freight terminal to be set up in the vicinity of the Mineola fair grounds to serve all adjacent communities both in freight and express service. While it is a remote plan, the electrification of the central extension line from Garden City east to Babylon was also touched upon by the railroad official. He foresaw Hempstead developing largely to the east and feeding railroad transportation in the future. Locations of railroad stations in villages make little difference, said Mr. LeBoutillier. He pointed to places where stations are somewhat removed from business districts. Routing of busses is simple he held. Mr. Le Boutillir, however, was careful to point out that the plans he was unfolding were merely being studied, would take from five to ten years to accomplish. It may even be dropped, he said, if there is considerable opposition. In discussing the removal of the freight yard from Main street, Mr. LeBoutillier said while it could be accompanied in the general scheme he had outlined, it also meant that Hempstead industries served by freight siding would have to be considered. The setting up of a new central freight yard near the fair grounds, he held, would build up a new industrial area, with motor trucking, the haul would not mean much, he remarked. He added that he would send a representative to interview those in Hempstead who have freight sidings and sound them out on the possibility of their removal to new locations. Three Hempstead concerns, the Nassau Lumber Co., Garrett Busch and Mollineaux Bros, have freight sidings on the Hempstead branch. [There was a photo of the freight yard, very dark on the old microfilm and totally dark on the copy from that film. The header above the photo read "This View May Pass If Plans Go Through," and the caption read: "Hempstead's freight house and yards, shown above, would be done away with entirely and shipments for the village unloaded at a proposed central station near the Mineola fair grounds, according to plans revealed by George Le Boutellier, vice-president in charge of the Long Island railroad, to a committee from the association of commerce yesterday. Removal of the freight depot in the interests of the improvement of Main street has been agitated by the commerce organization."] This article was to right of "Republicans Due To Adopt Relief Idea Of Governor" [Roosevelt], and to the left of "Depression's End Nearing; Strawn Points To Trends" Proving that economic experts were just as brilliant back then as no.. Paul ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #382 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001f01c20242$2fe04840$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 06:11:21 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Troutdale, OR Photo & information links: http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/908/images/news/depot-rail-museum-exterior .gif http://www.oregonstate.net/troutdale/historical_society/rail_depot.htm Back on Track New cutouts enliven Rail Depot Museum 05/22/02 Anne Endicott - Gresham Outlook New faces will greet visitors in an old place on Wednesday, May 29, when the Troutdale Historical Society celebrates the gala re-opening of the Rail Depot Museum with the unveiling of the Depot People. Eleven one-dimensional historical figures, hand-painted on wafer-board, depict those who once traveled to or from Troutdale by train and those who manned the rails. Their presence, according to Jeff Lawry, who is overseeing the project, will add authenticity to the depot's historical displays. "I wanted to redesign the look of the depot," he said. "(The Depot People) will add a little more to the artifacts." The life-sized, wooden cutouts, resembling train passengers, conductors, a World War I-era soldier and hobo, have been strategically placed among railroad antiques and equipment as an in-your-face illustration of the people who once used and worked in the 95-year-old building. There's even a bit of whimsy. "We'll have dogs and cats chasing each other," Lawry said, "and the hobo is the only multi-dimensional one we have. His arms stick out so he can hold a tray for our donation bowl." Together with his father, Jerry, a former window designer for Meier and Frank and the Lipman Wolf Co., Lawry spent the winter spearheading the project. The elder Lawry sketched historical figures, which were enlarged on an overhead projector. The images were transferred to the waferboard forms. Like sleeping silhouettes, the cutouts laid around Jerry Lawry's Gresham home waiting to be brought to life. "Dad spent three months painting them in his art studio," Jeff said. "He wanted everything to be perfect." The idea for spiffing up the depot can be attributed to the younger Lawry. He was smitten with the building's rich history after reading letters written by an employee of the former Oregon Railway and Navigation Co., which is now Union Pacific Railroad. Newton Parsons and his wife relocated to Troutdale from their native Kansas in the early 1900s. Parsons took a job as a clerk with the railroad so his homesick wife could travel back to Kansas to spend summers with her family. "You learn a way of life," Lawry said, referring to the letters between Parsons and his wife, which were recently given to the historical society by the Parsons family. "I've always been a history buff, but I thought the Depot People would give the depot a new look." Lawry said visitors to the Rail Depot will feel like they?ve stepped through a time warp. Painted station masters will be positioned to appear as if they are working in the old railroad station, while passengers will be scattered among displays of antique valises and steamer trunks or purchasing tickets at the counter. For those unfamiliar with train travel, the Depot People will present a better visual. "People didn't realize this was a ticket window until we pointed it out," Lawry said, gesturing to the wire caged window over a wooden counter in the lobby. "But we have some people who come in here and say, 'I remember when this was here,' when they see an artifact that's out of place. I get a kick out of putting it back there for them." The Troutdale Historical Society purchased the Rail Depot in partnership with the city of Troutdale in 1976. The deed, signed over by Union Pacific Railroad, cost $1. With the aid of a bicentennial grant the same year, the building was moved a few blocks east of its original location to where it sits now at 473 E. Historic Columbia River Highway. Though a full restoration of the depot has always been on the to-do list for the historical society, funding for such a project has been difficult to secure. Mary Bryson, curator of collections for the Troutdale Historical Society, said the group received a $600 donation last fall earmarked for the restoration project. Until such work can begin, volunteers are leaving their own mark. "Jeff and his dad have just done a fantastic job," Bryson said. "They did everything. They came up with the sketches for the (historical society's board of directors) and sold the idea to the board. They worked hard on it all winter long." Centerpiece for the Rail Depot's grand re-opening, which will take place from 5 to 7 p.m. Wednesday, May 29, will be the sponsorship auction of the Depot People. Patrons can bid for the opportunity to have their name placed on the back of a life-sized rail passenger, conductor, hobo or one of Jerry Lawry's other creations. Funds raised will be used to support the Rail Depot and the historical society's other preservation effort, the Harlow House. Though the depot is staffed by volunteer station masters and open for limited hours during its summer season, Bryson is hopeful that the Depot People's arrival will attract railroad buffs and those who recall the good old days of train travel. "I think it's going to be a great draw," she said. "People will come to see the changes in the museum for one thing. Hopefully, if the public is drawn in, the museum will be able to stay open longer." Reporter Anne Endicott can be reached at aendicott_@_theoutlookonline.com or by calling 503-492-5116. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <15a.e3f632d.2a1e6d77_@_aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:06:15 EDT From: Mrhorn55_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) "Long Island May Abandon Station, Hempstead Spur" Paul and all Went to my books on the LIRR by Vincent Seyfried and the following is added for amplification. As you all my know, the LIRR ran a branch line from Mineola south to Main Street in Hempstead. It crossed the Cent RR of LI east of the present Garden City Station. The Cent RR of LI also had a station in Hempstead; a substantial brick structure just west of the carriage sheds of the Presbyterian Church and facing on Fulton Street, placed in service 1-8-1873. In 1878 it became the main Hempstead station. Also in 1878, the LIRR station on Main Street was torn down. In July 1881, this Cent RR of LI station was enlarged and repainted. Three electric lights were put in November 1887. The old brick station continued in use until 1913 when the present station was built on Fulton Street. In 1942, the Hempstead branch was cut back to Jackson Street and in 1943 the brick station building was moved to its present site and I believe has just completed a renovation. The loop that you mentioned ran from Valley stream to Country Life Press (in back of the Doubleday building) then either to Garden City over the southwest leg of the full diamond crossing just east of Franklin Street, Garden City (currently the route taken by Hempstead trains today) or across the diamond to Mineola, joining the Main Line at Mineola Junction and then westerly towards Jamaica. It was completely electrified when the LIRR electrification was done. It was on this line the proposed station that was mentioned in the article would be located at the crossing of Franklin Ave at the Garden City line. (However, It would put a station at Franklin Avenue, then 3/4 mile later at Country Life Press, then 3/4 mile later, one at Garden City. Poor planning) This diamond has now been cut back to the southwest leg from Hempstead to Garden City, the southeast leg from Country Life Press towards the east and the straight thru east/west line called the Garden City secondary which goes towards Mitchel Field. At one time it was all electrified. This is used by the circus trains when they are in town. The now removed north/south short stub of the southerly portion of the diamond was where the Mitchel Field shuttle (two cars) was stored when not running. The tracks from Country Life Press to West Hempstead have been removed but the LIRR/MTA still owns the ROW. The South Side RR also had a station in Hempstead located on the west side of Greenwich Street midway between Front Street and Peninsula Boulevard. After abandonment of the station in May 1879, the depot building was converted into a skating rink, but it burned to the ground in July 1888. The combined freight yard that is mentioned in the newspaper article was built and located in north Garden City, just north and east of the present Funeral home on Franklin Street. It and the Mineola spur were electrified when the area was electrified. It was torn up when the northeast leg of the diamond in Garden City and the spur to Mineola was abandoned. It is now, what else, buildings and parking lots. It is interesting to note that this line has recently been talked about as a LRV (trolley car) line to run from Far Rockaway (Far Rockaway Branch) to Valley Stream to West Hempstead (West Hempstead Branch) to Country Life Press (over the torn up section of the West Hempstead branch) to Mineola (via the old ROW of the Mineola spur) to Oyster bay (via the Oyster Bay Branch). There are pictures of trolley cars w/third rail shoes (LRVs ?) in Ron Ziel's book on the LIRR that ran this route from Country Life Press to Far Rockaway. Why did we get rid of something that worked ? Dick Horn ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:03:33 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Moncton, NB, Canada From a Via press release... VIA Rail Completes $1.5 Million Renovation of Moncton Train Station BUILDING AN IMPOSING NEW LANDMARK IN DOWNTOWN LANDSCAPE MONCTON =96 Transport Minister David Collenette, joined by Labour Minister Claudette Bradshaw, and VIA Chairman Jean Pelletier officially opened the renovated Moncton passenger rail station today, following the completion of a $1.5 million project to upgrade and modernize the downtown facility. The renovations included the consolidation of VIA's Moncton Telephone Sales operations, which are responsible for all U.S., travel agency, and Internet ticket sales. =93The federal government is committed to the revitalization of passenger rail in Canada,=94 said Mr. Collenette. =93The station project is part of the federal government's $402 million capital investment in passenger rail. Passenger rail across Canada has enjoyed significant growth in ridership and revenues in recent years. This capital investment will provide VIA Rail with the modern equipment, tracks, signalling, and facilities it needs to meet the growing demand, while ensuring safe, efficient operations.=94 =93With this revitalized station, Moncton is very much a part of a national renaissance of passenger rail,=94 Mr. Collenette said. =93It is now home to one of the largest telephone sales offices for Canada's national passenger rail service =96 drawing on the skills and industry that New Brunswick has nurtured over the past decade.=94 Ms Bradshaw, who is Member of Parliament for Moncton- Riverview-Dieppe, said that =93the station has been transformed, and the transformation is a dramatic improvement. This is truly a modern, attractive passenger facility, and it will contribute directly to the vitality of the downtown area.=94 =93It is especially gratifying to see my home town playing a part in the renaissance of passenger rail=94, Ms Bradshaw added. =93I am proud that Moncton is continuing its historic role in Canada's national passenger rail service.=94 VIA completed the first phase of the Moncton station renovation project last October, consolidating its Telephone Sales Office operations in an adjacent building. The second phase began last November, integrating that building with the existing station, and modernizing passenger facilities. Improvements to this fully accessible station include the installation of a modern air-conditioning system, an expanded and renovated waiting room, new ticket counters, and mechanized baggage handling. Washroom facilities have also been modernized and expanded, including the construction of a dedicated washroom for persons with disabilities. At today's news conference, VIA Chairman Jean Pelletier said, =93VIA will now present the new face of passenger rail to our Moncton customers with modern, convenient passenger facilities that are designed to make train travel a rewarding experience from the moment passengers walk through the doors.=94 The exterior of the station was completely redesigned, including an impressive central tower and bold, new signage. In addition, new and enhanced entrances and exits offer improved passenger flow to and from the trains. Renovations were carried out in partnership with the property owner, Atlantic Shopping Centres Limited. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <013d01c202a7$0fc04cd0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:13:26 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Union, NJ County contributes to road work as Union station nears completion Thursday, May 23, 2002 BY ROBERT E. MISSECK Star-Ledger Staff Soon, Roselle Park will no longer be the last stop on NJ Transit's Raritan Valley Line. A new $27 million station off Morris Avenue in Union Township is nearing completion. It will become the easternmost stop in Union County when the facility opens around Dec. 1. The station will be the centerpiece of a planned "transit village" that will include a hotel, restaurant, professional building and townhouse complex. Significant road improvements will also be needed in the area, according to Councilman Peter Capodice, who has been spearheading the township's development efforts. So it was good news for township officials when the Union County freeholders announced it would contribute $300,000 toward the $1.1 million cost to renovate Green Lane, a major thoroughfare running between the station and the nearby campus of Kean University. The rest of the cost is being shared by the township, the state Department of Transportation, Kean University and Schering- Plough, which is located across from the university and the station. "The plan will realize more than $1 million in new tax ratables and create more than 100 new jobs," said Freeholder Angel G. Estrada, a member of the board's Economic Development Committee in explaining why the county is investing in the road improvement project. Capodice said Green Lane will be widened to add an additional left-turn lane onto Morris Avenue and another for motorists to enter Kean University. "Traffic signals will be reconfigured to accommodate the anticipated change in traffic flow and the road will be repaved from Morris Avenue to Woodland Avenue," Capodice said. Township Administrator Frank Bradley said construction is scheduled to begin next month with completion by late August or early September "before Kean goes back into full session." "This has been a long project for us and it is wonderful to see it all finally coming all together," Bradley said. The new station is expected to serve 800 passengers a day, according to Ken Miller, a spokesman for NJ Transit. "The facility includes a 545-foot-high center platform, 3,000-square-foot building with restrooms and space for vendors," Miller said. "The project involved extensive construction of a new bridge over Morris Avenue, the realignment of the existing track, a pedestrian passageway beneath the tracks and a 467-space parking lot and drop-off area," he said. In addition to being a site for commuter service to Newark and New York, Miller said the new station will also be a "reverse commuter station, which means that people who are traveling to destinations in Union County such as Kean University, Schering-Plough and Elizabethtown Gas will all be using it as a destination as well as a departure point." The Raritan Valley line runs from High Bridge in Hunterdon County to Penn Station in Newark, where passenger can connect to Hoboken and Newark's Penn Station. Robert E. Misseck works in the Union County bureau. He can be reached at rmisseck_@_starledger.com or (908) 322-1755. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <2b.278ed2ed.2a1ec4f1_@_aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:19:29 EDT From: CoolGuy127_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Moncton, NB, Canada Does anyone have a photo of the newly renovated station? The "old" station was built, as I recall, in the 1960s, and featured the bleak design typical of structures constructed during this "dark" era. The Moncton station was undistinguished and ugly. Just about anything would be an improvement. Daniel Chazin ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002501c202d3$fcdb9840$8f6af6d1_@_paul> Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 23:34:57 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Moncton, NB, Canada Didn't this train once have two stops in Maine? If so why not anymore? Paul - -----Original Message----- From: jdent1_@_optonline.net To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net Date: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) Moncton, NB, Canada From a Via press release... VIA Rail Completes $1.5 Million Renovation of Moncton Train Station BUILDING AN IMPOSING NEW LANDMARK IN DOWNTOWN LANDSCAPE MONCTON – Transport Minister David Collenette, joined by Labour Minister Claudette Bradshaw, and VIA Chairman Jean Pelletier officially opened the renovated Moncton passenger rail station today, following the completion of a $1.5 million project to upgrade and modernize the downtown facility. The renovations included the consolidation of VIA's Moncton Telephone Sales operations, which are responsible for all U.S., travel agency, and Internet ticket sales. “The federal government is committed to the revitalization of passenger rail in Canada,” said Mr. Collenette. “The station project is part of the federal government's $402 million capital investment in passenger rail. Passenger rail across Canada has enjoyed significant growth in ridership and revenues in recent years. This capital investment will provide VIA Rail with the modern equipment, tracks, signalling, and facilities it needs to meet the growing demand, while ensuring safe, efficient operations.” “With this revitalized station, Moncton is very much a part of a national renaissance of passenger rail,” Mr. Collenette said. “It is now home to one of the largest telephone sales offices for Canada's national passenger rail service – drawing on the skills and industry that New Brunswick has nurtured over the past decade.” Ms Bradshaw, who is Member of Parliament for Moncton- Riverview-Dieppe, said that “the station has been transformed, and the transformation is a dramatic improvement. This is truly a modern, attractive passenger facility, and it will contribute directly to the vitality of the downtown area.” “It is especially gratifying to see my home town playing a part in the renaissance of passenger rail”, Ms Bradshaw added. “I am proud that Moncton is continuing its historic role in Canada's national passenger rail service.” VIA completed the first phase of the Moncton station renovation project last October, consolidating its Telephone Sales Office operations in an adjacent building. The second phase began last November, integrating that building with the existing station, and modernizing passenger facilities. Improvements to this fully accessible station include the installation of a modern air-conditioning system, an expanded and renovated waiting room, new ticket counters, and mechanized baggage handling. Washroom facilities have also been modernized and expanded, including the construction of a dedicated washroom for persons with disabilities. At today's news conference, VIA Chairman Jean Pelletier said, “VIA will now present the new face of passenger rail to our Moncton customers with modern, convenient passenger facilities that are designed to make train travel a rewarding experience from the moment passengers walk through the doors.” The exterior of the station was completely redesigned, including an impressive central tower and bold, new signage. In addition, new and enhanced entrances and exits offer improved passenger flow to and from the trains. Renovations were carried out in partnership with the property owner, Atlantic Shopping Centres Limited. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . =========== The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001101c202d7$fd3c3200$fe805043_@_JimDent> References: <002501c202d3$fcdb9840$8f6af6d1_@_paul> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 00:03:40 -0400 From: Jim Dent Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Moncton, NB, Canada Doesn't go through Maine anymore, uses a different route - all Canada. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul S. Luchter" To: ; Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:34 PM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Moncton, NB, Canada > Didn't this train once have two stops in Maine? If so why not anymore? > Paul ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <008e01c202e3$4c910780$8f6af6d1_@_paul> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 01:24:31 -0400 From: "Paul S. Luchter" Subject: (rshsdepot) Railroad maps-Library of Congress 1828 to 1900 http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/rrhtml/rrhome.html ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #383 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <19f.2b4ca5e.2a1f749b_@_aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 06:48:59 EDT From: Deraildh2_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Moncton, NB, Canada In a message dated 5/23/2002 11:31:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, luckyshow_@_mindspring.com writes: > Didn't this train once have two stops in Maine? If so why not anymore? > this is the route of the "OCEAN" and does not go through Maine. The "ATLANTIC" is the train that used to stop in Brownsville and Jackman and Vanceboro , Maine but was discontinued a while back Doug ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <3CEE2A59.6821B25E_@_ns.sympatico.ca> References: <002501c202d3$fcdb9840$8f6af6d1_@_paul> <001101c202d7$fd3c3200$fe805043@JimDent> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:56:09 -0300 From: Jay Underwood Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Moncton, NB, Canada VIA's current train "THe Ocean" uses the Halifax-Quebec-Montreal route along New Brunswick's North Shore. It has followed this route since 1904. The other train "The Atlantic" ran from halifax to Moncton, Saint John, then through Maine to Quebec. That route was cancelled twice by the federal government, the last time in the cutbacks of 1990, when VIA service was reduced 50 per cent by then transportation minister Benoit Bouchard. Jay Underwood Elmsdale NS Jim Dent wrote: > Doesn't go through Maine anymore, uses a different route - all Canada. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul S. Luchter" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:34 PM > Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Moncton, NB, Canada > > > Didn't this train once have two stops in Maine? If so why not anymore? > > Paul > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <1a7.2b647ea.2a1fa2b0_@_aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 10:05:36 EDT From: CoolGuy127_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Moncton, NB, Canada In a message dated 5/24/02 7:56:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jp.underwood_@_ns.sympatico.ca writes: > . The other train "The Atlantic" ran from halifax to Moncton, Saint John, > then through Maine to Quebec. That route was cancelled twice by the federal > government, the last time in the cutbacks of 1990, when VIA service was > reduced 50 per cent by then transportation minister Benoit Bouchard. > No, that's not correct. The 1990 cutbacks represented the first time the train was cut, I think. It was subsequently reinstated, only to be abandoned in December 1994 because the line on which it operated was sold by the Canadian Pacific Railway to several regional short lines, with the status of the line being uncertain until the very last minute. I remember this distinctly because I rode from Montreal to Halifax and return on VIA in the summer of 1994, taking the Ocean eastbound and the Atlantic westbound. What is particularly ironic is that a new station had just been completed at St. Johns, N.B. for this train, less than a year earlier. That brand-new station had to be abandoned when service on the Atlantic route was discontinued! Although this represented a waste of resources, the building itself was an undistinguished modern structure with no reedeming architectural value. I wonder what has happened to it. Daniel Chazin Teaneck, NJ ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002501c2033f$7b5c1350$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:24:30 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Matthews, NC Project's goal is to restore depot to its 1874 look MICHELE WAYMAN Staff Writer Town leaders hope renovations to the old depot will bring it as close as possible to its original 1874 look. The Town Board will take what it calls an "authentic" approach to the 128-year-old building's rehabilitation. And although board members tossed around ideas for a restaurant or other tenants in the past, they decided to make the majority of the building a museum and visitor's center run by the Matthews Chamber of Commerce. The chamber also would lease three offices in the building. Architect Frank Williams II outlined his plans for the building at last week's town meeting. Additions done by previous owners were removed prior to moving the building to its new home last year. It now sits along the railroad tracks near the new town hall/library. The building's front faces the traffic circle that loops around to town hall. Williams proposed building a deck between the building and the tracks that would mimic the station's original dock. The main entrance would be track side, and ramps would offer access to the old caboose next door. He said the concrete roof also is not the original, and should be replaced with a lighter-weight roof that's reminiscent of the time. The inside would need to be rewired, and a restroom, insulation and heating and cooling system will be added, but Williams would cover the walls wallboard and wainscoting, while leaving the overhead beams exposed. He said about 60 percent of the original plank floor is missing, so he proposed using the building's pine siding to build a new one. Board members approved Williams' plans after requesting a second entrance on the road side of the building. The town will use tourism funds, which come from food and beverage and occupancy taxes, to pay for the renovations. The preliminary budget is $225,000 and town leaders hope it will be complete by Christmas. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #384 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001301c203dc$420f90c0$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 07:06:45 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Southampton, PA Train station usage discussed By: Jeremy Rosenbaum, Staff Writer May 24, 2002 Montgomery Newspapers An Ivyland businessman hopes to resurrect the Southampton Train Station and turn it into a Starbucks, and/or another restaurant, he told Upper Southampton Township supervisors May 7. But township officials expressed reservations at the workshop meeting, where he presented preliminary drawings. James Day, chairman of the township historical advisory board, worried that leasing a restaurant on the premises of the 110-year-old building and doubling the footprint could destroy its historical value. "It's such a major change that it would destroy the historical nature of the building," Day said of the station at Second Street Pike and Knowles Avenue. With the proposed plan, "For the purposes of the history of the building, it's not considerably better than seeing it vanish completely." Southampton's stretch of the old R-8 line has been dead since the 1980s. The businessman, Roy Kellet, said he agreed to lease the station from the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority in 1991, but held off with construction, in part, due to a failed quest by a shipping company to start up the rail. Kellet's lawyer, Scott Petri, said a train station has different needs than a business. Supervisors agree the train is unlikely to return. In order to make it viable, Petri said, Kellet needs exceptions to the zoning code. According to Kellet's agreement with SEPTA, the train can return with one year's notice from the authority so he can make modifications to the building. Supervisor Chairman Keith Froggatt also mentioned extensive storm-water drainage and sewer work any expansion would require. Fire Marshal Mark Showmaker was skeptical about Kellet's idea of rehabilitating the existing structure. Though the old ticket window and waiting benches remain intact, Day said, vandalism and water damage around the chimney has caused major damage, and an arsonist caused minor damage a couple of years ago. "What's your plan?" Showmaker asked Kellet and Petri, "because that building is, in my opinion, not too sound." After the workshop ended, Day and Kellet discussed the historical concerns. Day said later the developer "showed a degree of flexibility," but they remain at odds over Kellet's proposed addition. They will continue to talk, Day said, about "an acceptable range of options in the future. And certainly on our end, we will try to think about what would be acceptable uses of the building." Kellet told supervisors he would do whatever history requires, in order to make the building usable. He pointed to his other properties, Munchies in Richboro, and the Southampton Professional Center. "It's just a shame," Kellet said. "That building's been there so long and I've been awarded it. I'd like to do something about it." Despite concerns, Supervisor Steve Ullrich warned the board must work to make the station usable. "If you don't make concessions, it's just going to deteriorate," he said. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #385 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <003b01c2057e$b5878190$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:02:08 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Snoqualmie, WA NOTE: This message had contained at least one image attachment. To view or download the image(s), click on or cut and paste the following URL into your web browser and click/select the index or matching subject link. http://www.railfan.net/lists/mplist.cgi?rshsdepot-photo mlink.gif (image/gif, 853 bytes) Link: http://www.trainmuseum.org/ (information & photos - click on 'Depot' for more info) A Museum With All The Bells And Whistles Source: Seattle Post - Intelligencer Publication date: 2002-05-24 Arrival time: 2002-05-25 In Snoqualmie and North Bend, you can board a real old-fashioned train and take a ride along a five-mile-long museum. The Northwest Railway Museum in Snoqualmie features the oldest continuously operating train station in Washington. Buy your ticket at the original 1890s ticket counter and hop aboard the historic train for a ride along the museum's Snoqualmie Valley Railroad through the Upper Snoqualmie Valley to Snoqualmie Falls and the North Bend Depot. "Kids love it because they love trains," says Jennifer Youngman, museum marketing manager. "And we have a lot of other stuff for them to look at here at the depot. We have a small, bright orange locomotive that is set up on rails for kids to get up into. It's a real historic locomotive, but it's kid-sized." Trains operate on most Saturdays and Sundays from April through October (it's sometimes closed for special events).This year, trains also run on Memorial Day and Labor Day. The Railroad also offers an educational School Train for school groups and the popular Santa Train. More than 100 volunteers operate the museum and crew the trains, including engineers, brakemen and maintenance workers. Most volunteers get into it, dressing up in striped overalls or a dark blue suit and cap for the conductor. The scenery includes Mount Si, Rattlesnake Ridge and Snoqualmie Falls. Just above the falls, the train "takes a turn around a mossy cliff and the view opens up to a sweeping view of the river valley, and we pause there, we just hesitate for a while, so everyone can walk around the different railway cars and see the view," she says. Train riders can embark at North Bend or Snoqualmie for the five- mile ride, then stay on the train and head right back, or get off and wander around the towns for an hour until the next train arrives for the return trip. The museum in Snoqualmie includes the restored depot with exhibits, a bookstore and a gift shop. A few blocks down the road are railroad artifacts awaiting restoration by volunteers. The museum has examples of Northwest railway history, including steam and diesel locomotives, freight cars, passenger cars and maintenance- of-way equipment (used for building and repairing track). The Snoqualmie Depot was constructed in 1890 by the Seattle, Lake Shore and Eastern Railway. It was used by successor companies Northern Pacific Railway and the Burlington Northern Railroad. The depot survived relatively intact until the railroad abandoned it in 1975, but, age and modifications had changed the appearance significantly. In 1981, the museum restored the depot, returning the distinctive turret above the ticket office and two eyebrow dormers that were removed in a 1948 renovation. From now through July 7, trains depart the Snoqualmie Depot Saturday and Sunday (and this Monday) at 11:01 a.m., 12:31 p.m., 2:01 p.m., 3:31 p.m. and 4:15 p.m. Trains depart the North Bend Depot the same days at 11:31 a.m., 1:01 p.m., 2:31 p.m. and 4:01 p.m. (the last train is one way only to Snoqualmie). Train rides are 75 minutes. Fares are $8 for adults, $7 for seniors 62 and older, and $5 for children ages 3-12. Kids younger than 3 ride free. Fathers Day Weekend June 15-16 is "Pops on Us." Fathers ride the rails free with a paying child of any age. The depot, free of charge, is open every day through Labor Day, 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. The rest of the year it's open Thursday-Monday (closed Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve, New Year's Day and Thanksgiving). The Snoqualmie Depot is at 38625 S.E. King St. and faces state Route 202 (Railroad Avenue). The North Bend Depot is at 205 McClellan St. and faces the Texaco station. For information, call 425-888-3030; www.trainmuseum.org. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <004101c2057f$1f40c880$9865fea9_@_Wagenblast> Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:05:06 -0400 From: Bernie Wagenblast Subject: (rshsdepot) Williamsburg, VA Link: http://www.ci.williamsburg.va.us/pics/trainst6.jpg http://www.ci.williamsburg.va.us/direct/train.html (additional photos) http://www.pilotonline.com/peninsula/projects/williamsburg/transport/index.h tml (photos & information) Williamsburg, Va., Celebrates Restoration of Train Station Source: Daily Press Publication date: 2002-05-24 May 24--WILLIAMSBURG, Va.--Virginia's new Secretary of Transportation, Whitt Clement, called the Williamsburg Transportation Center a model for other state communities to follow, as he helped area leaders and residents rededicate the spruced-up train station Thursday. Clement cut the ceremonial ribbon along with city and community leaders while about 200 officials and residents watched. The event took place under the canopy near the train platform. Colonial Williamsburg's Fife & Drum Corps played while the crowd gathered before the rededication. "This old station is truly, truly a hub of transportation for the area," Clement told the crowd. The official re-opening of the center comes at the end of a three-year process to restore the 1935 building. Various grants paid in part for the $1.6 million project. Nanci Bond, a Williamsburg resident, wore an Amtrak T-shirt to the dedication. She has lobbied the city to clean up the train station and spoke at City Council meetings about the benefits of rail travel. "I'm thrilled to death with this. It was a disgrace the way it was," she said as she stood in the lobby surrounded by new windows, refinished wood, new furniture, a new ticket counter and more. Colin Campbell, president of the Colonial Williamsburg Foundation, gave the audience a history lesson on the train station, including its 19th century start near North England Street. He called the present train station "a major and necessary step for our city and visitors." Timothy Sullivan, president of the College of William and Mary, amused the group by telling stories of how, before the train station was built, the college used to transport students by wagon from a wharf located near Jamestown. He then assured folks that students don't travel by wagons anymore. Sullivan also predicted the station could lure visitors to the city. "Good things are happening in our town and we have a lot to be proud of," he said. Jeff Coffman is very proud of the station. He's been an Amtrak ticket clerk for nine years in Williamsburg. The building was dirty and dreary before the renovations, he said. "You couldn't keep anything clean," he said. "Plus, you'd freeze in the winter and sweat in the summer." Coffman has worked in 35 train stations during his 30-year career. The refurbished station, he said, is the nicest one in Virginia and one of the nicest in the entire rail system. "This building," he said, "now grabs people by surprise and people are more respectful to me because it's a nice, clean place." ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 22:35:52 EDT From: BGEEP40_@_aol.com Subject: (rshsdepot) Site update My site has been updated. Please use the first link below, and let me know if you encounter any problems. Thank you. Butch Getz The StationMaster My Yahoo! Photos - Depots & Structures ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #386 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:14:24 -0500 From: "Kenton & Penni Dickerson" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Site update When I tried the link, I got a message from AOL saying the page couldn't be found. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 9:35 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) Site update > My site has been updated. > Please use the first link below, and let me know if you encounter any > problems. > Thank you. > > Butch Getz > The StationMaster > My Yahoo! Photos - Depots & Structures > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <001601c2064c$240b0ba0$1500000a_@_STATION04> References: Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 08:32:40 -0500 From: "Barb Imrie" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Site update Try this: http://hometown.aol.com/bgeep40/index.html http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/bgeep40/lst?.dir=/Depots+and+RR+Structures&.v iew=t There was a little extra stuff in the beginning and ending. Also, watch for addresses that continue onto a new line. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenton & Penni Dickerson" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:14 AM Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Site update > When I tried the link, I got a message from AOL saying the page couldn't be > found. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > ; > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 9:35 PM > Subject: (rshsdepot) Site update > > > > My site has been updated. > > Please use the first link below, and let me know if you encounter any > > problems. > > Thank you. > > > > Butch Getz > > The > StationMaster > > HREF="http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/bgeep40/lst?.dir=/Depots+and+RR+Structu > res&.view=t">My Yahoo! Photos - Depots & Structures > > > > ================================= > > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > > > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:25:49 -0400 From: "Kenyon Karl" Subject: (rshsdepot) www.TomorrowsRailroads.org Youy may feel ill during your visit to the www.TomorrowsRailroads.org Web Site. Nevertheless, every railfan should bookmark this site for those rare instances when they need some quick numbers to impress some poor soul that obviously needs your assistance in order to understand the significant differences between a box car and a covered hopper car. :-( Of course, if you have already bookmarked the NHRRA Web Site, you will find the following links in the Resource Section of the Home Page of that Web Site. Rail Freight Statistics * Maine * Massachusetts * New Hampshire * Vermont * U.S. Summary * Data Definitions & Sources Freight Rail Fact Books * Chapter 1 - Economic Benefits * Chapter 2 - Societal Benefits - Coming June 15, 2002! * Chapter 3 - Technology - Coming August 1, 2002! A Trip through Railroad History Kenyon F. Farl, Webmaster Kenyon_Karl_@_mail.com http://www.trainweb.org/nhrra - ------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for logging onto www.TomorrowsRailroads.org. North America’s freight railroads have designed this online resource as part of our sustained effort to share with you the important contributions of today’s freight railroads. Our goal is to illustrate the positive impact that freight railroads have on the economy, society and the environment. Forming a seamless system of more than 170 thousand miles of track, freight railroads are the backbone of North America’s freight transportation network. More than 40 percent of all U.S. freight moves by rail; that’s more than trucks, boats, barges or planes. Chances are, the things you’ll use tomorrow are taking the train. Railroads carry supplies for our armed forces and rockets for tomorrow’s space discoveries. They move microchips and coal that provides more than half of the nation’s electricity. They also transport wallboard and lumber to construct houses and furniture to fill rooms. Seventy percent of all automobiles built in the U.S. are shipped by freight rail, and so are the parts used to build airplanes. Our nation’s freight cars also carry enough concrete to build 45 miles of new highway every day. Freight railroads help put food on our tables. They carry grains for our cereals and oranges for our juice. They also transport nuts, chocolate, beer and wine. They even ship shopping carts. North America’s freight railroads play a historically important role in our everyday lives. As we meet the challenges of today’s 24/7 society, we rely on rail more than ever to provide on-time delivery for a wide variety of time sensitive products. We hope you find our information helpful as we show you that tomorrow is truly arriving by train. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <002501c20668$816c0260$2e4576d8_@_oemcomputer> References: Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:55:42 -0400 From: "Rich Chapin" Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) www.TomorrowsRailroads.org What was it (is it) about this site that makes one ill? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenyon Karl To: Kit Morgan ; Norman. N. Miller ; John Rogers ; Ed Janeway ; Craig Della Penna ; Wayne Davis ; Mainstlnd ; Lyman Cousins ; Malcolm Taylor ; Peter Griffin ; Stephen Grande ; Daniel Dawdy Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: (rshsdepot) www.TomorrowsRailroads.org > Youy may feel ill during your visit to the www.TomorrowsRailroads.org Web > Site. Nevertheless, every railfan should bookmark this site for those rare > instances when they need some quick numbers to impress some poor soul that > obviously needs your assistance in order to understand the significant > differences between a box car and a covered hopper car. :-( > > Of course, if you have already bookmarked the NHRRA Web Site, you will find > the following links in the Resource Section of the Home Page of that Web > Site. > > Rail Freight Statistics > * Maine > * Massachusetts > * New Hampshire > * Vermont > * U.S. Summary > * Data Definitions & Sources > Freight Rail Fact Books > * Chapter 1 - Economic Benefits > * Chapter 2 - Societal Benefits - Coming June 15, 2002! > * Chapter 3 - Technology - Coming August 1, 2002! > A Trip through Railroad History > > Kenyon F. Farl, Webmaster > Kenyon_Karl_@_mail.com > http://www.trainweb.org/nhrra > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Thank you for logging onto www.TomorrowsRailroads.org. > > North America's freight railroads have designed this online resource as part > of our sustained effort to share with you the important contributions of > today's freight railroads. > > Our goal is to illustrate the positive impact that freight railroads have on > the economy, society and the environment. > > Forming a seamless system of more than 170 thousand miles of track, freight > railroads are the backbone of North America's freight transportation > network. > > More than 40 percent of all U.S. freight moves by rail; that's more than > trucks, boats, barges or planes. Chances are, the things you'll use tomorrow > are taking the train. > > Railroads carry supplies for our armed forces and rockets for tomorrow's > space discoveries. They move microchips and coal that provides more than > half of the nation's electricity. They also transport wallboard and lumber > to construct houses and furniture to fill rooms. > > Seventy percent of all automobiles built in the U.S. are shipped by freight > rail, and so are the parts used to build airplanes. Our nation's freight > cars also carry enough concrete to build 45 miles of new highway every day. > > Freight railroads help put food on our tables. They carry grains for our > cereals and oranges for our juice. They also transport nuts, chocolate, beer > and wine. They even ship shopping carts. > > North America's freight railroads play a historically important role in our > everyday lives. As we meet the challenges of today's 24/7 society, we rely > on rail more than ever to provide on-time delivery for a wide variety of > time sensitive products. > > We hope you find our information helpful as we show you that tomorrow is > truly arriving by train. > > > ================================= > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org > > ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #387 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:24:00 -0400 From: "Kenyon Karl" Subject: (rshsdepot) Art of the River...Art of the Rails PRESS RELEASE for Calendar, Features, News Contact for further Information: Ed Janeway 295-7588(Ed.Janeway_@_Valley.Net) Norman Miller 649-5296 Art of the River...Art of the Rails, an exhibit of paintings and prints by 14 distinguished Upper Valley artists, will be on display Friday May 31 to Monday July 15 at the New England Transportation Museum, in the Amtrak Station and Vermont Welcome Center in White River Junction, VT. A reception open to the public begins at 4:30 p.m. Friday with a Gallery Talk by Professor Robert McGrath of Dartmouth College entitled “River, Rails, and Regional Art” Hours of opening for the exhibit and the museum 9:30-3:00, Tuesdays; 9:30-12:30(Wed.-Saturdays). The works illustrate the rich tradition of railroads, boats, bridges, and industrial landscapes in the development of the Upper Connecticutt River Valley. The Museum, which opened last September, displays memorabilia celebrating the history of the region as a major railroad center dating from 1850. Featured works will include etchings by Brian Cohen, artistic director of the Two Rivers Printmaking Studio in White River and Art teacher at Putney School, and reproductions from the work of Paul Smaple, noted artist in residence at Dartmouth College during the 1930’s and 1940’s. Norman Miller, Museum curator, and Sandra Hayward, Coordinator, have assembled an outstanding collection of work by them other outstanding area artists . such as Dale Stein of Windsor, Retired Distinguished Teaching Professor of Drawing and Design at the State University of New York, Rick Harden whose work has been displayed at the Cooper Hewitt Museum and Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City; and David Plowden, probably America’s pre-eminent living railroad photgrapher with 20 books to his credit. Works represented include paintings by Charlie Hunter, painter and designer of Weathesfield, owner of Hunter Studio in Bellows Falls; Liam Sullivan, painter, printer, and teacher at the New Hampshire Institute of Art in Manchester; Jay Barrett, architect of Fairlee, who has an extensive collection of slides on railroading in the Upper Valley, and Russ Barber of Norwich whose combined interest in railroading and photography has taken him to China, Mongolia, and Cuba. His work including regional post card art will be arranged in a special gallery. Six of the 40 works in the exhibit are on loan from the Hood Museum at Dartmouth,, other organizations and individuals in the Upper Valley. Directions to the Museum: Follow signs off Interstates #89 and #91, Routes 5 and 4 to the Amtrak Station in Downtown White River Junction, VT. Other exhibiting artists, all well known in their field, include Harry Dayton, Edwin Fulwider, Robert Weaver, Jerry Pfohl, Herb Rather, and John Semple. ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #388 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 13:26:48 -0400 From: "jdent1_@_optonline.net" Subject: (rshsdepot) Macon, GA From the Macon Telegraph... Panel OKs Terminal Station plan Macon committee approves $2 million purchase from Georgia Power By Andy M. Drury Telegraph Staff Writer The city's plans to buy Terminal Station and turn it into a center for transportation, restaurants and office space now rest with the 15-member Macon City Council. The council's Public Properties Committee unanimously approved Tuesday the purchase of the old train station from Georgia Power Co. for $2 million. An agreement for the sale lists the fair market value at $2.5 million, but Georgia Power agreed to sell for $500,000 less. The council is expected to vote on the sale next week, and if the deal is approved, the city would own the property 60 days later. "It's office space, it's restaurants, it's entertainment," Mayor Jack Ellis said of the building's future. "It's a great day for Macon." The city has $2.5 million from federal and state sources that will cover the purchase price and leave some money for renovation costs, he said. Another $2.5 million in a recent city bond package is dedicated to retrofitting the station for a transportation hub and building a Cherry Street plaza. "This is a tremendous asset to the people of this community," Ellis said. "Architecturally, along with City Auditorium and City Hall, Terminal Station is one of the three most significant public buildings in Macon." City officials are banking on the 86-year-old building at the foot of Cherry Street becoming a linchpin in downtown rejuvenation by bringing more people to the city's center. Plans call for the city's bus lines to move to the station by next winter, and officials hope Greyhound and taxi companies also will base their operations there. NewTown Macon, a public-private partnership aimed at downtown development, has proposed that it manage Terminal Station. With the city's consent, the group has pledged to cover all operating, management and promotion costs for three years, estimated at $300,000 a year. "We would go out and spend money to secure people to lease space in the building," Darnell said. He predicted earlier this year that NewTown could persuade enough businesses to move there that it would have a positive cash flow or be at break-even status within three years. Darnell said NewTown's redevelopment plan for the station is based on a similar plan for the successful Union Station in Washington. "There are a lot of the same dynamics," he said. "They're just on a smaller scale." City officials also hope Terminal Station will be a stopping point for passenger rail service, but there is no definite start date for a line between Atlanta and Macon. Darnell said Tuesday that plans for the station don't hinge on passenger rail. "That would be just icing on the cake," he said. However, state passenger rail service is only one rail option, officials said. John Robert Smith, mayor of Meridian, Miss., and chairman of the Amtrak board of directors, will be in town today to discuss the possibility of Macon becoming a stop on a national rail line between Washington and Jacksonville, Fla. Ellis said Smith encouraged him in early 2000 to move ahead with plans to purchase Terminal Station. "He restored an old station in Mississippi," Ellis said. "When you look at what they did there, think of what we could do." Council members say they are optimistic about the difference Terminal Station could make in a downtown that appears to be on the move. "It would be a supporting crutch for the other things we have downtown - the (music and sports) halls of fame, the Douglass Theatre and Tubman (African American) Museum - to help make them successful," Councilman Charles Dudley said. "The most important thing is to draw people to our downtown." Councilman Ed DeFore said he's thankful the city is purchasing the building to preserve its history. "It's a part of our history, and the city should own it," he said. "The building should belong to the people." The city's purchase of the building would be its second. The city originally bought the building from Southern Railway in 1977 for $150,000. The city sold the station to Georgia Power in 1982 for $400,000. The utility has made extensive improvements to the building, including reroofing it, during the past two decade= s. Darnell expressed confidence in the station's role in revamping downtown. "It's a good plan we have," he said. "Downtown is coming along. We can't do it all at once, but I'll say this: The way you eat an elephant is one bite at a time. And this is a big bite." - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200205260934.g4Q9Y0x76370_@_net.bluemoon.net> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 15:40:19 -0600 From: Erich Strebe Subject: (rshsdepot) Re: RSHSDepot Digest V1 #385 Does anyone out there have a listing of restaurants developed in old train cars, as opposed to old train stations? Erich Strebe estrebe_@_transact.org ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ From Archives_@_Railfan.net Message-ID: <131.e80ea2a.2a27f9d4_@_aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:55:32 EDT From: PifyJtrain_@_aol.com Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Re: RSHSDepot Digest V1 #385 The red caboose motel in strasburg PA has a restaurant that is in an old train car and features some slight motion effects ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org ------------------------------ End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #389 ******************************* ================================= The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org