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(rshsdepot) Re: RSHSDepot Digest V1 #885

For those on the list who follow the fate of railway stations in Canada, we
have lost yet another wonderful station to fire.  After having seen the old
wooden station at Hespeler Ontario go up in flames last year, we have now
lost the old Great Western station in Strathroy Ontario to fire as well.  It
has sat vacant for a number of years while locals dithered over what to do
with it.  It was large brick station designed in the 1870s by Joseph Hobson
of the Great Western Railway, later Grand Trunk, as was distinguished by his
trademark hip gable roofline.

Ron Brown, Toronto.


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Subject: RSHSDepot Digest V1 #885


>
> RSHSDepot Digest       Wednesday, April 7 2004       Volume 01 : Number
885
>
>
> Subjects:
>
> (rshsdepot) Lewistown Junction
> (rshsdepot) =?Windows-1252?Q?Alum_Rock_Park_=28San_Jos=E9=29?=
> (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
> Re: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
> Re: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
> Re: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
> (rshsdepot) North Canaan, CT
> (rshsdepot) Mattoon, IL
>
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> From Archives_@_Railfan.net
> Message-ID: <00c501c41c30$11071020$1430f7a5_@_paul>
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:37:01 -0400
> From: "Paul Luchter" <luckyshow_@_mindspring.com>
> Subject: (rshsdepot) Lewistown Junction
>
> Nice station with dual modes:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/mifflin/postcards/ltparr.jpg
>
> =================================
> The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
> railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org
>
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> From Archives_@_Railfan.net
> Message-ID: <00d401c41c32$67e7bf00$1430f7a5_@_paul>
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:53:44 -0400
> From: "Paul Luchter" <luckyshow_@_mindspring.com>
> Subject: (rshsdepot) =?Windows-1252?Q?Alum_Rock_Park_=28San_Jos=E9=29?=
>
> I knew about the streetcar (where remnants of the elevated portion in the
park still remained when I was there about 20 years ago, at least), but
vague on a steam railroad, here is a nice one I never saw before (probably
from a stereo slide), the station with a boarding train....if this really
was a steam line, I guess the front car is a dummy engine:
> http://content.scu.edu/cgi-bin/viewer.exe?CISOROOT=/svhocdm&CISOPTR=17
>
> I have slides somewhere of this RR bridge:
> http://www.molenda.us/photos/alum-rock-2003-09-14/DSC_1167-r.html
>
> Here are two nice old postcard pictures of yellow streetvars in the park
going into tunnel and over bridge....:
> http://www.nnvesj.org/Ed10/AlumRockPark6.htm
>
> Alum Rock Park is at the foothills at east San José,
>
> There seems some insane plan by current congressman to put 6 lane 28 mile
highway through this park and Mount Hamilton to Interstate 5 (This can't be
real can it? This is the most amazing car ride now, very windy and even dirt
on the side into the San Joaquin Valley, why ruin it, maybe the last spoiled
land in this part of California?)
>
> Alum Rock Railway Co., narrow gauge opens 1896.
>  Santa Clara Street at McLaughlin Avenue western terminus.....it did use a
steam dummy...terminal at Alum Rock Avenue and Penitencia Creek Road in the
park (the pictured station)..
>
>
> ...it was electrified 1901...the largest gasoline-fueled electric
powerhouse in the west was built for it...the new depot was further into the
canyon in the park...still narrow gauge
>
> ...some 3% grades in the park...
>
> Almost the entire line was washed away, most of the bridges gone, the
tunnel inundated..
>
> The SP's Peninsular Railway took over the line, completely rebuilt it
(much of the remains are from this period) so the big red cars could come to
the park..there was a meteor stop in the park (a huge meteor is there,
thought to weigh 2000 tons, it was manganese, sold during Wold War One, but
only 39 tons of the metal were extracted for the government so the operation
of selling it was a bust and the tourist attraction was lost. Kempite was a
new mineral dscovered in this big rock..it probably wasn't even a meteor)..
The Peninsular Ry. opened the line again standard gauge electric heavy cars
in 1913...
>
> The railroad stopped in 1931, the stationtorn down in 1934 (not sure if
this was pictured depot)
>
> see more of this history here:
> http://www.nnvesj.org/Archives/ARPHistory.htm#ARP6
>
> There was also the San Jose and Santa Clara Railroad, a streetcar company.
It merged in 1921 with the First Street System, becoming San Jose Railroads.
At that time, the Linda Vista to Alum Rock portion of the trolley lines was
abandoned....San Jose RRs was also ownned by the SP.. This had been the
eastward extension of the Santa Clara and East San Jose line, the oldest and
longest carline in Santa Clara County, Santa Clara at Franklin & Jefferson
Streets via Franklin, Grant and the Alameda, Santa Clara Street, Alum Rock
Avenue to Linda Vista 8.8 miles
>
> Here is an excellent synopsis from a 1959 article on the streetcar lines
in San Jose as of 1921:
> http://www.erha.org/timepoints/v17n11.htm (Driving down Willow Street one
used to be able to see evidence of the old streetvar line)
>
> Man, I left that area too early, I had to really search for information
like this way back in the day..
>
> The Alum Rock Railway Co. opened 1896, merged into San Jose & Santa Clara
County Railway 1905, which merged into San Jose Railroads in 1912..
> ...SJ RRs sold to SAn Jose City Lines/National City Lines in 1939, the
orignal 1894 People's Horse Railroad Company absorbed by a bus company..
>
> All the streetcar lines of Santa Clara County listed here:
> http://hometown.aol.com/chirailtwo/sjchis.html
> even more detail here:
> http://hometown.aol.com/chirailtwo/sjcdate.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> =================================
> The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
> railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> From Archives_@_Railfan.net
> Message-ID: <00ea01c41c38$12bae100$1430f7a5_@_paul>
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:34:21 -0400
> From: "Paul Luchter" <luckyshow_@_mindspring.com>
> Subject: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
>
> does anyone know what the N.A.D. R is, it is a north-south RR near Red
Bank which seems on my map to go from nowhere to nowhere
>
> thanks,
> Paul
>
> =================================
> The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
> railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> From Archives_@_Railfan.net
> Message-ID: <003101c41c39$24692280$d88a410c_@_NormMetcalf>
> References: <00ea01c41c38$12bae100$1430f7a5_@_paul>
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:42:00 -0600
> From: "Norm Metcalf" <metcalf_@_attglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
>
> That's almost certainly the Naval Ammunition Depot railroad.  Per the 3rd
> edition of Jay Reed's Comprehensive Guide to Industrial Locomotives (
> www.riohondo.info ) they have Baldwins, Alco's, GE's and EMD locos.  It's
> called Earle Naval Weapons Station, Colts Neck NJ or U.S. Naval Ammunition
> Depot or ?, depending upon which reference you check.
>     Norm Metcalf, Boulder CO
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Luchter" <luckyshow_@_mindspring.com>
> To: "RSHS Depot" <rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:34 PM
> Subject: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
>
>
> > does anyone know what the N.A.D. R is, it is a north-south RR near Red
> Bank which seems on my map to go from nowhere to nowhere
> >
> > thanks,
> > Paul
> >
>
> =================================
> The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
> railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> From Archives_@_Railfan.net
> Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV77rRjbDt3Hv00008794_@_hotmail.com>
> References: <00ea01c41c38$12bae100$1430f7a5_@_paul>
<003101c41c39$24692280$d88a410c_@_NormMetcalf>
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 22:22:53 -0400
> From: "tonydawson1 Dawson" <tonydawson1_@_msn.com>
> Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
>
> Norm:
>
> You are correct, it is the Earle Ammunition Depot. The main feature of the
railroad is track on a pier extending about 2 miles out to sea to facilitate
loading of ammunition. Several years ago, there was a fan trip on the line,
but no chance of that happening again after 9-11.
>
> Tony Dawson
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Norm Metcalf<mailto:metcalf_@_attglobal.net>
>   To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net<mailto:rshsdepot@lists.railfan.net>
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:42 PM
>   Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
>
>
>   That's almost certainly the Naval Ammunition Depot railroad.  Per the
3rd
>   edition of Jay Reed's Comprehensive Guide to Industrial Locomotives (
>   www.riohondo.info<http://www.riohondo.info/> ) they have Baldwins,
Alco's, GE's and EMD locos.  It's
>   called Earle Naval Weapons Station, Colts Neck NJ or U.S. Naval
Ammunition
>   Depot or ?, depending upon which reference you check.
>       Norm Metcalf, Boulder CO
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Paul Luchter"
<luckyshow_@_mindspring.com<mailto:luckyshow@mindspring.com>>
>   To: "RSHS Depot"
<rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net<mailto:rshsdepot@lists.railfan.net>>
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:34 PM
>   Subject: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
>
>
>   > does anyone know what the N.A.D. R is, it is a north-south RR near Red
>   Bank which seems on my map to go from nowhere to nowhere
>   >
>   > thanks,
>   > Paul
>   >
>
>   ===============================
>   The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
>   railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org<http://www.rrshs.org/>
>
>
>
> =================================
> The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
> railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> From Archives_@_Railfan.net
> Message-ID: <004301c41c4d$eb213ca0$841af7a5_@_paul>
> References: <00ea01c41c38$12bae100$1430f7a5_@_paul>
<003101c41c39$24692280$d88a410c_@_NormMetcalf>
<BAY4-DAV77rRjbDt3Hv00008794_@_hotmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 23:10:44 -0400
> From: "Paul Luchter" <luckyshow_@_mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
>
> Does it go to Fort Monmouth?
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tonydawson1 Dawson" <tonydawson1_@_msn.com>
> To: "Norm Metcalf" <metcalf_@_attglobal.net>; <rshsdepot@lists.railfan.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:22 PM
> Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
>
>
> > Norm:
> >
> > You are correct, it is the Earle Ammunition Depot. The main feature of
the
> railroad is track on a pier extending about 2 miles out to sea to
facilitate
> loading of ammunition. Several years ago, there was a fan trip on the
line,
> but no chance of that happening again after 9-11.
> >
> > Tony Dawson
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Norm Metcalf<mailto:metcalf_@_attglobal.net>
> >   To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net<mailto:rshsdepot@lists.railfan.net>
> >   Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:42 PM
> >   Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
> >
> >
> >   That's almost certainly the Naval Ammunition Depot railroad.  Per the
> 3rd
> >   edition of Jay Reed's Comprehensive Guide to Industrial Locomotives (
> >   www.riohondo.info<http://www.riohondo.info/> ) they have Baldwins,
> Alco's, GE's and EMD locos.  It's
> >   called Earle Naval Weapons Station, Colts Neck NJ or U.S. Naval
> Ammunition
> >   Depot or ?, depending upon which reference you check.
> >       Norm Metcalf, Boulder CO
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: "Paul Luchter"
> <luckyshow_@_mindspring.com<mailto:luckyshow@mindspring.com>>
> >   To: "RSHS Depot"
> <rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net<mailto:rshsdepot@lists.railfan.net>>
> >   Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:34 PM
> >   Subject: (rshsdepot) N.A.D. RR (NJ) ???
> >
> >
> >   > does anyone know what the N.A.D. R is, it is a north-south RR near
Red
> >   Bank which seems on my map to go from nowhere to nowhere
> >   >
> >   > thanks,
> >   > Paul
> >   >
> >
> >   ===============================
> >   The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of
existing
> >   railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org<http://www.rrshs.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> > =================================
> > The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
> > railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org
> >
>
> =================================
> The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
> railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> From Archives_@_Railfan.net
> Message-ID: <005d01c41c4e$acde67a0$0300a8c0_@_oemcomputer>
> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 23:16:10 -0400
> From: Jim Dent <jdent1_@_optonline.net>
> Subject: (rshsdepot) North Canaan, CT
>
> Town celebrates train station money
> KENNETH J. CONSIDINE , Register Citizen Staff  04/06/2004
>
> NORTH CANAAN - Congresswoman Nancy Johnson will hold a press conference
> today at 1 p.m. to announce $1.7 million in funding for the reconstruction
> of the Union Depot Train Station in North Canaan. The historic building,
> which had one wing of the L-shaped depot as well as it's tower destroyed
in
> an arson fire started by several area youths in October of 2001, is the
> centerpiece of a downtown area that at one time revolved around the
> railroad.
>
> The historic building was purchased in December by the non-profit
> Connecticut Railroad Historical Association. CRHA Secretary Lyle Kloke
> estimates the cost of reconstruction at approximately $2.5 million.
>
> Johnson worked with appropriators to fund the Union Depot project through
> the Transportation Equity Act (H.R. 3550).The House passed its version of
> the bill by a 357-65 vote.The bill will now proceed to a joint committee
> where the House and Senate versions of the bill will be reconciled.
>
> "The funding is a big shot in the arm for the Northwest Corner and the
> entire district.It's excellent news," Johnson said in a press release
> Friday."The loss of the historic Union Depot Train Station struck at the
> very heart of the community.An important effort is underway to rebuild
this
> station and return to the community what was lost, and this funding will
be
> a tremendous help."
>
> "Nancy's done a terrific job in coming through in getting this funding,"
> said North Canaan First Selectman Doug Humes."The train station is the
focal
> point of the town center. We're just devastated with this black hole
that's
> there now. Now we know we can really get started with the
reconstruction.We'
> ll be going full steam."
>
> Humes said he hopes to have the outer shell of the building raised by late
> July to coincide with Railroad Days, a yearly celebration of the town's
link
> to its past dependence on the railroad.Presently the Housatonic Railroad
> runs its freight operations out of the historic station.The line runs as
far
> south as Danbury and up to Pittsfield, Mass., in the north.
>
> Kenneth Considine can be reached by email at nwcorner_@_registercitizen.com.
>
> ©The Register Citizen 2004
>
http://www.registercitizen.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=11248128&BRD=1652&PAG=46
1&dept_id=12530&rfi=6
>
>
> =================================
> The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
> railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> From Archives_@_Railfan.net
> Message-ID: <006501c41c4f$20c39820$0300a8c0_@_oemcomputer>
> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 23:19:24 -0400
> From: Jim Dent <jdent1_@_optonline.net>
> Subject: (rshsdepot) Mattoon, IL
>
> Published on Monday, April 5, 2004 11:57 AM CDT
>
> I-57 interchange, railroad depot on list
>
> WASHINGTON -- The House of Representatives passed a federal highway
> construction bill on Friday that includes funding for the Illinois central
> Depot restoration and the Interstate 57 interchange project.
>
> According to U.S. Rep. Tim Johnson, the massive spending bill includes
> almost $7 million in projects in the Journal Gazette/Times-Courier
> circulation area. Projects include:
>
> - - Cumberland Bridge: $3 million to finish bridge and road between Burma
Road
> and Illinois Route 130 in Cumberland County
>
> - - Interstate 57 interchange: $2 million to upgrade County Highways 18
and 22
> in conjunction with the interchange plan north of Mattoon.
>
> - - Illinois Central Depot: $1.5 million for renovation of the heavily
used
> historic train depot in the heart of Mattoon.
>
> - - Grandview Township Roads in Edgar County: $400,000 to improve safety
of
> horizontal curve on 250th Road and 725th Street in Grandview Township.
>
> Other projects in the 15th District include $7.2 million for a new bridge
> across the Wabash River at Mt. Carmel and $7 million for upgrades to
Curtis
> Road south of Champaign for a potential new I-57 access road.
>
> Copyright © 2004 Journal Gazette and Times-Courier, divisions of Lee
> Enterprises .
> http://www.jg-tc.com/articles/2004/04/05/news/news04.txt
>
>
> =================================
> The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
> railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of RSHSDepot Digest V1 #885
> *******************************
>
> =================================
> The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing
> railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org


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