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Re: (rshsdepot) Excellent 1898 western Long Island transportation map
That and the Kings County Central Railroad (Prospect Park Branch) which only
ran for three months in 1878, 3 and a half mile [Prospect park Empire Depot
to Seton Avenue at LIRR (junction with Manhattan Beach RR), I have this in
my notes but I won't say here which direction that was, some "diagonal"
direction south of the park I think] route...this would be a slightly
earlier abandonment, but here I think all traces of any ROW are also gone
long long ago...plus there is the abandoned LIRR tunnel on Atlantic Ave,
that was forced to be abandoned pre-Civil War...
On related point, I have 4/20/1890 date for Coney Island & Brooklyn RR
streetcar electrification. The Jamaica & Brooklyn Road Company (later
Jamaica Ave. Company) electrified (before it was just a plank road, maybe
also a steam dummy line) also 1890. Does anyone have a specific date for the
debut of electrified service on this line in 1890? Was it before or after
the Coney Island road?
Also I misstated yesterday which traction line was running by 1898 map...not
the Long Island & North Shore (which began 1907), but the Long Island
Electric (later Jamaica Central), the line from Jamaica and Ozone Park to
Far Rockaway, and to Belmont Racetrack when it opened a few years later.
This began 1896, wasn't on the map though, it was competition to the LIRR.
This was the line that went up a ramp to meet the Fulton Ave El (Kings
County Elevated RR)-Grant Ave. Station, at City Line, Ozone Park, last stop
of El. It did this ramp thing 1897-1901.
I think this line had something to do with August Belmont, at least after
the NY & North Shore Traction Co. bought and owned it 1899-1903 and was all
but merged for those years with the NY and Queens County Ry. system..I may
be cacka on this part as the NY&NS didn't start until 1907, so this was
probably bought by NY&QCo.... Long Island Central wasn't motorized until
1933, making it I guess the last of these suburbans to survive (NY&QCo went
a few years later and was private but was not a "suburban" line like this
one.)...
I have never seen any remnants of the interchange with the LIRR Rockaway
Division at Linden Boulevard near where the Cedar Manor Station had
been...was the LIRR already on embankment there by '33?
Paul
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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) Excellent 1898 western Long Island transportation
map
> In a message dated 6/10/2003 10:06:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> luckyshow_@_mindspring.com writes:
>
> > <A
HREF="http://www.lirrhistory.com/oct2001/1898map.jpg">http://www.lirrhistory
.com/oct2001/1898map.jpg</A>
> >
>
> What I find fascinating with the map is its confirmation that the
> route of the Central Railroad of Long Island, from Creedmor to Flushing,
had
> already been abandoned by then. I had the following to say about this
line in the
> Seventh Edition of the New York Walk Book, for which I served as editor:
>
> "The route that this path [i.e., the Brooklyn/Queens Greenway]
> follows, the Kissena Corridor Park, is actually the right-of-way of the
former
> Central Railroad of Long Island, constructed about 1870 from Flushing to
Babylon via
> Floral Park, and abandoned in 1879. Hardly any trace of this original use
> can be seen over a century later, but the fortuitous circumstance of the
> railroad following this route has resulted in its preservation as an open
space
> corridor through this now heavily-populated area."
>
> Of course, when abandoned in 1879, the railroad went through an
area
> that was unihabited, so there didn't appear to be any need, even then --
in the
> height of the railroad era -- to preserve this line for local
transportation
> purposes. This must be one of the earliest railroad abandonments in the
area.
>
> Daniel Chazin
> Teaneck, NJ
>
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