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Re: Fw: Fw: (rshsdepot) "450-Ton Locomotive at the Waldorf-Astoria"

Since we're now down to trading opinions, I guess I'm entitled to mine at the risk of incurring the wrath of the "experts": This string is worn out. What relationship it currently has to "railroad depots" (which is, indeed the purpose of this site) is lost to me. Let's move on...PLEEEEZZZEEE!

>From: "Paul S. Luchter"<LUCKYSHOW_@_MINDSPRING.COM> 
>Reply-To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net 
>To: "RSHSDepot"<RSHSDEPOT_@_LISTS.RAILFAN.NET> 
>Subject: Fw: Fw: (rshsdepot) "450-Ton Locomotive at the Waldorf-Astoria" 
>Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:24:04 -0500 
> 
> 
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Henry Rosenberg<HENRYR.JAVANET_@_RCN.COM> 
>To: Paul S. Luchter<LUCKYSHOW_@_MINDSPRING.COM> 
>Date: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:07 PM 
>Subject: Re: Fw: (rshsdepot) "450-Ton Locomotive at the Waldorf-Astoria" 
> 
> 
>As I see it, two things killed NYNH&HRR. 1) big hurricane - when? '56? did 
>major damage that they never had the capital to repair. 2) the Connecticut 
>Turnpike allowed trucks to rob their freight business. The irony is that 
>the RR had a tremendous surge of economic success from hauling building 
>materials - for the Turnpike. ¶ Oh, and here's the other irony. They were 
>pioneers in piggyback freight - but their system was the Betamax of 
>piggyback and they were too late converting to VHS. Henry 
>At 11:51 PM 3/7/02 -0500, you wrote: 
> 
> >-----Original Message----- 
> >From: JIMBEAR<RIBEAR_@_COX.NET> 
> >To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net<RSHSDEPOT@LISTS.RAILFAN.NET> 
> >Date: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:41 PM 
> >Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) "450-Ton Locomotive at the Waldorf-Astoria" 
> > 
> > 
> > >Well, Paul, the New Haven was a special case. Patrick McGinnis was 
> > >flamboyant (and a bit crooked -- after the NH dumped him, he went 
> > >to the Boston & Maine and got involved in a kick-back scheme that 
> > >landed him in federal prison) and given to hair-brained schemes. He 
> > >certainly didn't help the NH during its decline, but he didn't kill it. 
>He 
> > >just speeded up the end. The NH went into its final brush with bank- 
> > >ruptcy in 1961, and was forced on the Penn Central in 1968. The NH's 
> > >biggest problem was that far more than any other railroad, it relied on 
> > >passenger, express, and mail business to bring in revenue (in terms of 
> > >passenger miles, the NH was No. 3 in the US, right behind the NYC, 
> > >and PRR - amazing when you consider that its main line was only 229 
> > >miles from NYC to Boston). The loss of revenue from the decline in 
> > >passenger traffic, the decline in express business, and the transfer of 
> > >the US Mail service to the airlines doomed the NH. Even the very best 
> > >management team would probably not have been able to save it. 
> > > 
> > >Jim. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >----- Original Message ----- 
> > >From: "Paul S. Luchter"<LUCKYSHOW_@_MINDSPRING.COM> 
> > >To:<RSHSDEPOT_@_LISTS.RAILFAN.NET> 
> > >Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:02 PM 
> > >Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) "450-Ton Locomotive at the Waldorf-Astoria" 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> I guess this is why this railroad went bottom up, was this typical of 
> >other 
> > >> railroads in the 50s? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >================================= 
> > >The Railroad Station Historical Society maintains a database of existing 
> > >railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org 
> > > 
> 
> 
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>railroad structures at: http://www.rrshs.org 
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