Re: (rshsdepot) B&O Royal Blue Line at Whitehall Ferry

["Paul S. Luchter" <luckyshow_@_mindspring.com>]

rshsdepot
I took the "electric" Staten Island Ferry from 69th Street in Bay Ridge as a
kid if that has anything to do with anything, and I used to admire the
sinking ferry in Perth Amboy that you could see from Tottenville SIRT
terminal!!...I think the Fulton Ferry was once called  East Ferry but I am
not really sure..Oh the humility!!!
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steven Delibert <stevdel_@_prodigy.net>
To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net <rshsdepot@lists.railfan.net>
Date: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) B&O Royal Blue Line at Whitehall Ferry


>rshsdepot
>    Mea culpa.  What I said was, "Staten Island Ferry Terminal at Whitehall
>Street", which is probably ambiguous, and comes from Manhattan-centric
>thinking that nobody Brooklish like me should indulge.
>    What I meant was something like, "the terminal at the South
>Ferry/Whitehall Street, Manhattan, end of the South Ferry - St. George
ferry
>line".
>    Sorry if I sent anybody off on a tangent.  "Loose lips sink railroad
>fans  . . . ?"
>    Please, Jim & Seth, both of whom I have never met and both of whom I
>like, both of whom obviously have a very considerable depth of knowledge to
>share with the rest of us, & both of whom also obviously have great talent
>for creative invective which I would enjoy in other circumstances, save the
>ammo for those gasoline-&-rubber-tire folks; we railroad people are a small
>enough minority already.
>    Steve Delibert
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Seth Bramson <sbramson_@_bellsouth.net>
>To: James R. Guthrie <jguthrie_@_pipeline.com>
>Cc: <rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net>
>Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:28 PM
>Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) B&O Royal Blue Line at Whitehall Ferry
>
>
>> rshsdepot
>> Jim:
>> I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here.  Steve or Paul sent
>> the photo and stated it showed Staten Island, now you are saying it is
NOT
>> S. I., but, rather, the Whitehall ferry terminal which was on Manhattan
>> Island.  I would appreciate it if you or somebody else, particularly
Steve
>> or Paul, would verify the location of the photo, as, if I read correctly,
>> it did say it was the Staten Island terminal, not the Whitehall/South
>> Ferry terminal.  Gentlemen, can we reach a definitive answer, please.
>>
>>
>> > It shows the pre-1905 Whitehall ferry terminal with the Royal Blue
>> > Line Ferry connection for the Third Avenue El that  described in an
>> > earlier post. You might want to also consult Baxter's book on the
>> > Hudson River Ferries for further description of this operation. And
>> > Whitehall Street Ferry=South Ferry since the days of the Commodore.
>> > South Ferry was the IRT name; Whitehall Street is the BRT/BMT name.
>> >
>> > Fixations on off-line city ticket offices notwithstanding
>>
>> You have a way with words, Jim.  Unfortunately, and too often, that "way"
>> comes across as snide, overbearing, and condescending.  I don't think you
>> really mean it that way, but your unilateral use of words such as
>> "irrelevant" and "fixations" might and could be misread as being cynical
>> and nasty, and perhaps you might consider--and be willing to-- tone down
>> the use of said phraseology.  Believe it or not, there are people on this
>> list who are at your level of both knowledge and intelligence, but convey
>> same without being demeaning or offensive to others.
>>
>>
>

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