Sometimes a photo is just a photo(was: Re: (rshsdepot) B&O Royal Blue Line at Whitehall Ferry)

["Paul S. Luchter" <luckyshow_@_mindspring.com>]

rshsdepot
Must we pick a nit about  everything...this was a magical find by Steve-he
would be a magician if in one day he found on the net a photo proving
positively  about St. George to the B&O trunk line..Or Whitehall Street to
Washington...

[I went and requested if they knew any of this info, but I rambled as I do,
lets see if they respond!!]

Wasn't there once a major B&O "stop"/ticket office at Herald Square? (This
would be 19th century I think...)...The Erie's ,main one must have been at
that site where the Flat Iron Building is now...

Anyway, bus or ferry is the same (though I am not much of a fan of the bus),
and until that aforementioned ferry crash it was said that the B&O ran their
own ferry to Staten Island, maybe to Jersey City too from there (Whitehall
Street is next door to South Ferry), so this picture is probably of a
"portal" to the Royal Blue Line-though look carefully you may realize that
the B&O ferry if there was a ferry was maybe to the left entrance I think...

And yes there was ticket offices and pick-up points all over, but rarely
would there be one on the water if that railroad didn't have a passenger
presence/rationale there, so I can see little other reason that this would
be at the bottom of Manhattan-the tourists would be at Castle Clinton,
looking at the Statue of Liberty, as well...this part of town would seem
unlikely place to just put a ticket office/agent-either there was a ferry to
Communipaw at the time of this photo, or there was a connection at St.
George.

There,
Paul
- -----Original Message-----
From: Seth Bramson <sbramson_@_bellsouth.net>
To: Steven Delibert <stevdel_@_prodigy.net>
Cc: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net <rshsdepot@lists.railfan.net>
Date: Sunday, March 04, 2001 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) B&O Royal Blue Line at Whitehall Ferry


>rshsdepot
>That is a great view, Steve, and thank you.  Unfortunately, it does not say
>anything about B&O trains "there," for, as you all know, railroads had
ticket
>offices in off line cities which did not indicate that their trains
operated to
>that point.  The ACL & FEC had joint ticket offices for years on E. 45th
St. and
>E. 44th St. in New York, ACL later at 103 Park Avenue, the Seaboard and
other
>railroads at Rockycenter Feller.  Many of you may even remember that the
main
>B&O ticket office in New York was opposite Grand Central, but, of course,
the
>only way to get to a B&O train at Jersey City from that point was to use
the B&O
>dedicated bus service.  In any event, a wonderful photo, and thank you.
FYI:
>Other great sources of info in the New York area include both the main
Brooklyn
>and Queens Public Libraries; I recommend them highly.  In addition, as some
of
>you may be aware, there are private collectors of, yes, "New York"
memorabilia
>(I am one, but have nothing that early, i. e., proof of B&O use of S. I.
>terminal material).
>
>Ready for a change of topic?  I am ALWAYS looking for any FLORIDA views
>particularly traction or stations.  Can anybody help?
>
>Steven Delibert wrote:
>
>> rshsdepot
>> Preparing to follow Seth's advice about the Museum of the City of New
York,
>> went to their site, discovered their current on-line show, and in it, a
>> photo relevant to an earlier part of this discussion -- of the Staten
Island
>> Ferry Terminal at Whitehall Street, with a prominent sign pointing to the
>> Royal Blue Line Ticket Office.
>> http://www.mcny.org/byron/04161.jpg
>>
>

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