Re: (LVRR) Looking for C628 Pictures

["Bill K." <pontiac_@_dreamscape.com>]

LV's C628's came in two orders, the first built for the railroad, the second
all of the former Monon units, which had been traded in to Alco on C420's
because they were both too big and too troublesome for the Monon.  This
second group got some reconditioning by Alco before being resold at a
bargain price.

They all arrived in the "snowbird" scheme.  All of the units lasted through
Conrail, and all but two were repainted red.   630 got a tuscan scheme with
no nose diamond, and later got a 3rd coat of paint standardizing it.

Monon units had a nose warning light, and could be idenfitied on the LV by
this as well as the higher numbers.

These units came to the LV in 1965-67, so the wreck in question could only
have occurred between this time and the end of the LV in 1976.   A couple of
them were wrecked at Laurel Run PA with the CNJ/LV track consolidation - an
LV train and a CNJ train with two brand new L&HR C420's hit head on, causing
considerable damage to all the units.  All of the newer power, the
Centuries, were repaired; the CNJ units were RS2/3's and RSD4's and were
likely scrapped.

Bill K.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "A Samostie" <quahog_@_sprint.ca>
To: <lehighvalleyrr_@_lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: (LVRR) Looking for C628 Pictures


>
> Dear Rich, Josh, and Group,
>
> I have some information on LV C628 #640.  But first, a few questions,
> since I am not as familiar with the LV as I am with DL&W / Erie / EL:
>
> 1. First, if I recall correctly, the C628s were ex-Monon units, were
> they not??
> 2. When did they arrive on the LV?
> 3. Were they ever repainted in one of the other various LV paint
> schemes?
>
> One of the reasons you may have trouble finding a photo of #640 is that
> it and #628 were involved in a wreck at Spencer, Tioga Co., NY.  There
> are two photos of the wreck on page 59 of "Images of America: Tioga
> County, New York."  Here is the caption:
>
> "This train wreck occurred in Spencer in 1952.  [Obviously not correct
> date; was it 1962?]  Some children threw the switch, derailing the
> train.  These two photographs were commissioned by the FBI as they
> conducted the investigation."
>
> One photo is a head-on shot of #628 embedded in the earth up to its
> running boards.  The other photo is a broadside shot of #640, similarly
> embedded.  It appears #628 was the lead unit, #640 was trailing
> backwards.  Damage to the units does not appear particularly severe
> otherwise, but given the heavy undercarriage damage and the fact that
> these were secondhand units, they were probably stored dead or scrapped
> shortly thereafter.
>
> My cousin, who lives just a stone's throw from end-of-track of the LV
> Auburn Branch in Goodrich Settlement / Owego, has been developing an
> interest in the LV.  He referred to the C628 "snowbirds" as "white
> elephants!"  I laughed, having never heard that term in LV fan circles
> before... but I guess it is appropriate.  What do y'all think?
>
> Cheers,
> Alan Samostie <quahog at sprint.ca>
>
>
> Rich Chapin wrote:
> >
> > Joshua,
> >
> > Go to George  Elwood's Fallen Fall site for the LV
> > http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/lv/lv.html
> >
> > The listed locomotive pictures of C628s with dates in the 1960's should
all
> > be snowbirds.Unfortunately, known of these snowbirds are #640
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rich Chapin
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joshua K. Blay <joshuakblay_@_hotmail.com>
> > To: <lehighvalleyrr_@_lists.railfan.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:39 AM
> > Subject: (LVRR) Looking for C628 Pictures
> >
> > > As soon as the decals come in, I shall be giving a C628 to a friend of
> > mine
> > > to paint.  Scheme is snowbird, #640 to be exact.  Could someone point
me
> > to
> > > good pictures of this scheme on the internet to pass along to my
friend.
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joshua in Cooperstown
> > > http://www.geocities.com/blayjk06
> > >
> > >
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