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From: Paul Tupaczewski paultup AT comcast DOT net
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 13:26:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: (erielack) EL 40' Boxcar Mystery
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Mike,

Thanks for the photos! I don't think this is the same car. Attached is a Lee Carlson photo (I believe he posted it to this group many years ago?) of the VALE car.

The former EL number is hard to read ut it appears to be "84357" but those two middle unmbers are obscured. But it appears to be part of the same series Pat is asking about - you can make out the "70" in the reweigh date and the dimensional data at the right also matches up (the Erie car you posted has different dimensional data)....

- Paul



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> Paul,
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> Attached is a photo of an Erie boxcar at Essex, CT, taken in 2002. I'm not
> sure this is the one you were asking about.
> I've attached a detail of its data stenciling, which indicates a build date
> of 9 52 (It's also stenciled "NEW 6 87" as seen
> in the full photo). I hope some of this might be helpful.
>
> Mike Dodge
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> > In-Reply-To: <519046580.2373052.1603388291712@mail.yahoo.com>
> > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:44:30 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Paul Tupaczewski
> > Subject: Re: (erielack) EL 40' Boxcar Mystery
> >
> > Pat Moore asked:
> >
> > > List...
> > > Hopefully someone can help clear up a mystery for me about a group of
> > 40' boxcars.
> > >
> > > The series 84200 - 84262 does not appear in my copy of the EL Diagram
> > Book. The 1/76 issue of the Official Railway Equipment Register shows 62
> > cars in the series. The cars in question have an 8' door opening and 4
> > belt DF Loaders. The majority appear to be in assigned service to
> > Whirlpool in Marion, Ohio. Looking at pictures, the cars appear to be
> > rebuilt from a number of donor groups. Some have 10 panel riveted sides,
> > some 12-panel riveted sides, and some have welded sides. A number of
> > different ends are seen as well.
> > > The questions are...was this group of cars rebuilt at Meadville and
> > when? Were they rebuilt specifically for Whirlpool service? Why did they
> > not appear in the Equipment Diagram book?
> >
> >
> > There are quite a few cars I've seen that don't have a page in the
> > diagram book, but the photos prove otherwise (notably the boxcars with the
> > hatches)
> >
> > Based on photos where the cars don't have repatched weigh dates, these
> > appear to have been rebuilt at Meadville in early 1970. Not sure if that
> > can help identify their source....
> >
> > One observation: All the cars I have photos of in this series have Roman
> > capacity data lettering (which is good to identify an era), but the photo I
> > have of 84262 does NOT match up with the rest of the series (perhaps the
> > series was 84200-84261, which would be 262 cars?. That car has Gothic capy
> > data and a reweight date in 1974, plus an EL Safety First logo - a later
> > rebuild.
> >
> > One of the cars from this series was preserved by the Valley Railroad in
> > Connecticut - is this one that was repainted Erie?
> >
> > - Paul
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