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From: Mark Schmitt erie3319 AT gmail DOT com
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 10:27:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [REPOST] Re: (erielack) Re: EL Mail List Digest V3 #7014
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Additional maps attached showing what the situation was in 1911. I wish I
had similar documentation of the Harrison side of the river, but you know
how that goes...

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:45 PM Paul Tupaczewski
wrote:

>
> Still trying to orient yourself on this one, eh Jim? As long of a shot as
> you suggest, there's still this possibility that in addition to James
> Crowell Lumber owning the several older parcels to the south near the M&E,
> Crowell could have later bought out another lumber yard north of his 366
> (?) - 396 Ogden Street location (per the 1911 map), on Passaic Street
> sometime after NX (Draw) Bridge was built. Knowing the date when this
> photo was taken would be crucial in this case as it could point towards it
> being taken off of this 4th Avenue Bridge (which I believe was CR's
> designation for it). I'm still perplexed as to why Crowell would have his
> large sign facing the M&E, although that would be good advertising, but
> then too if, as it's suggested that it might have been at 200 Passaic
> Street, this would have the property on the east side of (north/south)
> Passaic Street fronting on the east side of this street and again having
> his (James) Crowell Lumber sign not facing the street but facing the
> River. It would seem that the company's sign would be mounted above the
> building's entrance facing the street, although probably not necessarily,
> but if so this would mean that this newer James Crowell Lumber Co parcel --
> and with this sign -- would have to be located on the west side of Passaic
> Street and be odd numbered rather than even numbered (i.e., 201, 203, etc.)
> for the sign to face the street, if that's of any importance (and if not
> important, the 200 Passaic Street location could still be possible).
> Without a date for the photo though, this is all a moot point, but well
> taken. A map of this area of a similar date the photo was taken would
> remove your suspicions.
>
> Ray W.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Tupaczewski
> To: EL Mail List
> Sent: Sat, Mar 14, 2020 12:10 pm
> Subject: [REPOST] Re: (erielack) Re: EL Mail List Digest V3 #7014
>
>
> From: Jim S
> Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 10:37 PM
> Subject: (erielack) Re: EL Mail List Digest V3 #7014
> To:
>
>
>
> I noticed the same thing about the NX structural members. The M&E bridge
> is a good idea.
> What's the date of the photo? NX was built 1922. Maybe it's a predecessor,
> and the 200 Passaic St later location of Crowell Lumber (admittedly a
> long shot). Jim
> From Archives@Railfan.net
> Message-ID: <
> CALEOx4ssbYKsRg27Q_2B23B2wW2aC_5nKum_N1ANB0HzvabLVw@mail.gmail.com>
> References: <
> 932824116.1587.1584021269537@wamui-jasmine.atl.sa.earthlink.net
> >
>
> In-Reply-To: <
> 932824116.1587.1584021269537@wamui-jasmine.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:31:16 -0400
> From: Mark Schmitt
> Subject: Re: [REPOST] Re: (erielack) Re: EL Mail List Digest V3 #7012, G06
>
> Wes,
>
> I thought you'd enjoy the maps! In all of this, I believe the photographer
> of G06 was standing on the lower level of the Morris & Essex bridge
> looking north-northwest.
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:55 AM wrote:
>
> > http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-09-20/G06.jpg
> >
> > Mark, Thanks for posting the maps; a lot easier than the Princeton site.
> >
> >
> > Comparing the structural members ("X" bracing) in G06 to this guy seems
> to
> > indicate there is no match to either the Clay or the NX (4th Ave)
> bridges:
> > https://www.oldpics.org/photos/1002/nx_bridge.jpg
> >
> > Here we have a choice of the bridge itself or the Newark approach west of
> > McCarter:
> >
> >
>
> https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7479496,-74.1672088,3a,37.5y,140.05h,83.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOD_Xq_ZJQF4zVGOUVpxy0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
> >
> > Since there is a T/T pole with wires in G06, I'm for the approach. I
> > THINK I see some distortion of the G06 individual X pieces in the above
> > Google view (but more obvious in other views -- which I can't get to now
> > (street view date shifts needed). The embankment is along the ROW, not
> the
> > River.
> >
> > Rush.. out the door,
> >
> > Wes White
> > Mplwd, NJ
> >
>
>
>
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