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From: Mark Schmitt erie3319 AT gmail DOT com
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 07:46:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [REPOST] Re: (erielack) Re: EL Mail List Digest V3 #7012
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Attached are two 1911 era maps of that vicinity, which should clear things
up. Cross Street in Newark was obliterated by the Stickle Bridge
construction and Odgen Street by the McCarter Highway.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:30 AM Paul Tupaczewski
wrote:

>
> From: Jim S
> Date: Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM
> Subject: (erielack) Re: EL Mail List Digest V3 #7012
> To:
>
>
>
> I finally found "Cross St." in Newark. I have been puzzled because
> modern maps (Google..) only show a Cross St in Harrison, which by
> coincidence looks like it used to end (before the high school tennis
> courts) at the Erie Newark Branch. But there is no wharf on the Passaic
> river there(1!), like Google results for Crowell Lumber say.
> On a 1908 Sanborn map of Newark, Volume 4 sheets 8 and 9, Cross St used to
> run from Broad St (MLK Blvd now) to Ogden Ave (now McCarter Highway) as
> stated below), directly next to the DLW tracks on the north side, what is
> now Route 280. SO that's why I couldn't find it, it was demolished for
> 280.
> On the Sanborn map, Crowell basically occupied the space east of Ogden
> (McCarter) along the river, from the DLW tracks up to about halfway to what
> was is now Clay St (was Carlisle St). There were 2 other lumber yards
> directly adjacent, between Crowell Lumber up to Carlisle. Carlisle led to
> a bridge over the river (what is now called Clay St bridge, built 1908 I
> saw online).
> The distance from the center of Crowell Lumber to the Erie Newark Branch NX
> bridge location (according to Google maps) is about 2400 ft, almost 1/2
> mile. If the picture was taken from NX bridge (or what was there before),
> we are not looking at Crowell down at Cross St.
> Could the picture be from the Clay St bridge? Only about 600 feet to
> Crowell Lumber. But why would they take a picture from the Clay St bridge?
> Ray (or someone) also mentioned 200 Passaic St, which is right where the
> sign in the picture would be if it were taken from the NX bridge location.
> the 1908 shows a lumber yard there, but not "Crowell".So probably by the
> time of the picture, CRowell took over that 200 Passaic St location.
> Jim > > location at the end of Clark Street -- was shown to be owned by
> Wylie E.
> > Clark as per the 1919 NY Lumber Trade Journal, the partial lettering
> shows
> > this plate depicts the Crowell Lumber company (again, in this Journal)
> > located in Newark, NJ on Ogden Street at the foot of Cross Street. It
> was
> > stated the the proprietor was James Crowell - "a prominent Newark
> > Lumberman." Having difficulty finding this location on any maps even
> going
> > back 50 years, I finally discovered that Ogden Street became part of
> > McCarter Highway in later years. Going by everything I discovered, it
> > looks like this shot was indeed taken off of the Erie 4th Avenue Bridge,
> > just as you suggest.
> >
> > Ray Wetzel
> >
> >
>
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