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From: "William E DOT Botkin" webotkin AT ecentral DOT com
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:24:15 -0700
Subject: CWR At Moristown 1969
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Folks,

After I saw Gordon's e-mail about laying CWR at Morristown, I thought you
all might be interested in seeing the operation in July 1969.

Gordon - Are you in my photo?

Bill Botkin
Centennial, CO


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Davids"
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: (erielack) 385 on the EL


> If we are looking at the same photo of the 385, it is running east on the
> M&E from Morristown to Summit, not on the P&D (Gladstone Branch). IIRC,
> that part of the M&E in the photo received continuous welded rail (CWR) in
> 1968 (105lb DL section rolled by Beth Steel at Steelton, PA).
>
> I know that the two tracks between Morristown and Denville received CWR in
> the summer of 1969. I was in charge of that project. The 105 DL jointed
> rail that was released from the M&E was laid on the P&D to replace some
> older 101 DL jointed. I am certain that there was no CWR on the P&D in
> 1969.
>
> The other major rail replacement work on the M&E in 1969 was replacement
> of 105 DL jointed rail on the two tracks between Millburn and Summit with
> new 105 DL jointed rail. EL did not lay CWR on curves sharper than 2
> degrees, and the Millburn project was dictated by curve wear on the
> sharper curves in the territory. Most of the funding for the rail
> projects came from the State of New Jersey Commuter Assistance Program.
>
> The rail projects on the M&E were done under a pre-arranged detour with
> about a six-hour window. We used two 25-ton locomotive cranes to handle
> the rail out and in, with boom insulators because we were working under
> live catenary. We used a bus bridge to handle mid-day passengers around
> the rail projects on the P&D.
>
> I am also certain that there was no CWR in former DL&W tracks on the New
> York Division (east of Slateford Jct) that pre-dated the 1960 merger, and
> I think that the DL&W did not use it anywhere before the merger. We had a
> large framed photo in the Hoboken Division Engineer's Office showing a
> long stretch of CWR track, obviously dating to DL&W days. No one on the
> division could identify the location until I arrived from the D&H. I
> identified the location as the D&H between Schenectady and Delanson, about
> 1933 when the D&H was pioneering use of CWR on main tracks.
>
> The DL&W used several unique rail section, including 101 DL, 105 DL and
> 118 DL rail. The 105 DL section is nothing like the 105 DY (Dudley) used
> by the New York Central except the the cross-section areas (and thus
> weights per yard) are the same.
>
> Gordon Davids
>
> Subject: RE: (erielack) 385 on the EL
>
> That's a great shot of the 385.
>
> Something else caught my eye: CWR on the Gladstone Branch (at least on the
> foreground track), something pretty rare in 1969. Did the DL&W do that or
> did the EL? I know that the Erie did some, did the DL&W ever?
>

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