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From: Roger Clare roger DOT clare AT gmail DOT com
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:45:01 -0400
Subject: Re: (erielack) Question about DL&W Bergen Jct in 1900
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  There is also a Railway Engineering Review article (Feb 19, 1909) on
this construction in progress. This can be found at
http://www.jon-n-bevliles.net/RAILROAD/sitemap.html in the Magazine
Articles List under the title Elimination of Grade Crossings, D., L. &
W. R. R. and N. Y., S. & W. R. R. at Jersey City.

  Attached is a photo from that article, taken at same location as
Bob's photo, but about 25 feet lower, and not nearly as detailed.Â
Amazing that the railroads were able to operate through this mess.

Roger Clare
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On 1/27/2020 5:05 PM, Robert Bahrs wrote:
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> I had remembered this photo I had with all the tracks, but I had forgotten
> that they were all NYS&W and that the Lackawanna was just two tracks as Mr
> Truesdale and the Article suggests. I should have looked at it first.
> Thanks for sharing the article. That mammoth project allowed the
> Lackawanna to expand ( double ) the tracks they had on both lines, and of
> course build West End tower as we know it today. It being one of the first
> all-concrete Lackawanna towers. The attached view looks north before the
> start of the project.
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> Bob Bahrs
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> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 8:35 AM tommy meehan wrote:
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>> I thank Mark Schmitt for answering this question and steering me to the
>> article in the ENGINEERING RECORD of (not June) but July 23, 1910. Mystery
>> solved. As Mark stated, the M&E and Boonton Branch were both double-track
>> in this area, so apparently Truesdale meant all four M&E/Boonton tracks.
>> I'm pasting a link to the article below, it's available on the HathiTrust
>> Digital Library website.
>>
>> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015084511859&view=1up&seq=126
>>
>> I'm also attaching the images from the article. The image on the left is a
>> track map, the image on the right is a photo of the area, taken looking
>> north I think, while the work was progressing. The area was quite different
>> back then but recognizable from the way it appeared many years later. The
>> article states the work began in earnest in March 1909 and was mostly
>> completed by December. It involved moving both the M&E tracks and the
>> Boonton Branch tracks to a temporary alignment. This was to allow the
>> permanent grade to be raised ten feet (and the NYS&W-Erie tracks to be
>> lowered ten feet) and bridges to be installed. The article states there
>> were almost 300 passenger trains on weekdays, plus many freight and
>> switching moves, across the diamonds so it was a badly needed project.
>>
>> In fact, before Susquehanna opened it's Edgewater terminal in 1894, they
>> interchanged a heavy coal traffic with Lackawanna through the track
>> connection there, for movement to Hudson River piers. So it must have
>> become quite a bottleneck.
>>
>> tommy meehan
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