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Re: (erielack) Lackawanna 959 coming home to Scranton
IIRC. The GP8/10 were originally rebuilds done in Paducah KY. I stole
the following from Wikipedia:
The *EMD GP10* is a diesel-electric locomotive
</wiki/Diesel-electric_locomotive> that is the result of rebuilding a
GP7 </wiki/EMD_GP7>, GP9 </wiki/EMD_GP9> or GP18 </wiki/EMD_GP18>.
The Illinois Central Railroad </wiki/Illinois_Central_Railroad> had
three separate rebuild programs to upgrade their old EMD GPs and GPs
that they had purchased from equipment dealers such as Precision
National Corporation </wiki/Precision_Engineering_Company> in Mount
Vernon, Illinois. The first was the GP8 </wiki/GP8>, second the GP10 and
third the GP11 </wiki/GP11>. All were rebuilt at IC/ICG's Paducah Shops
in Kentucky.
Core units for the GP10 program were from IC/ICG GP7, GP8, GP9 and GP18,
B&M </wiki/Boston_and_Maine_Railroad> GP9, B&O
</wiki/Baltimore_and_Ohio_Railroad> GP9, CC&O
</wiki/Clinchfield_Railroad> GP9, C&O
</wiki/Chesapeake_and_Ohio_Railway> GP7 and GP9, D&RGW
</wiki/Denver_and_Rio_Grande_Railroad> GP9, DT&I
</wiki/Detroit,_Toledo_and_Ironton_Railroad> GP7 and GP9, FEC
</wiki/Florida_East_Coast_Railway> GP9, GTW
</wiki/Grand_Trunk_Western_Railroad> GP18, P&LE
</wiki/Pittsburgh_and_Lake_Erie_Railroad> GP7, Potlach Forests Inc.
</wiki/Potlach_Lumber> GP7, QNS&L
</wiki/Quebec_North_Shore_and_Labrador_Railway> GP9, RDG
</wiki/Reading_Company> GP7, St.J&LC
</wiki/St._Johnsbury_and_Lamoille_County_Railroad> GP9, SLSF
</wiki/St._Louis_%E2%80%93_San_Francisco_Railway> GP7, SP
</wiki/Southern_Pacific_Company> GP9, SSW
</wiki/St._Louis_Southwestern_Railway> GP7, and UP
</wiki/Union_Pacific_Railroad> GP9B.
Two IC GP9s were rebuilt to GP10s and sold directly to the Ashley, Drew
and Northern Railway </wiki/Ashley,_Drew_and_Northern_Railway>. Nine
Alaska Railroad </wiki/Alaska_Railroad> GP7s were rebuilt to GP10s by
Paducah. A total of 76 Conrail </wiki/Conrail> GP9s were rebuilt to
GP10s. The Paducah Shops rebuilt 53 Conrail GP9s to GP10s. The first 16
Conrail GP9s were rebuilt to the equivalent of a GP10 in 1976. In 1978
another 21 Conrail GP9s were rebuilt at Paducah, followed by 16 more
GP9s rebuilt to GP10 in 1979. The 1978–79 Conrail GP9 rebuilding program
by Paducah was engine and electrical gear only with no carbody
modification. The Precision National Corporation Shops at Mount Vernon,
Illinois rebuilt six Conrail GP9s to GP10s in 1978. The Morrison-Knudsen
Boise Shops rebuilt 17 Conrail GP9s to GP10s in 1978-1979. Six units
were rebuilt by Boise in 1978, with an additional 11 units completed in
1979. The GP9 rebuilding program by Boise was engine and electrical gear
only with no carbody modification.
Thanks and regards,
Bob
On 9/25/2013 10:08 AM, Tim Stuy wrote:
> Mike (or anyone on the list):
>
> I remember seeing these rebuilt locomotives referred to as GP8's during the
> Conrail early years. What work was done do convert a GP7 to a GP8? I know
> GP8 is not an official EMD termbut I am cursious asto what is under the
> hood!
>
> Tim
>
> Since this latest effort to save the last remaining and unaltered
>> Lackawanna road unit started on this list, y'all are the first to know.
>> Lackawanna Railroad GP7 959 (EL 1278, Conrail GP7 5993, Conrail GP8 5460)
>> is on its way to Scranton. A project of the Tri-State Chapter NRHS working
>> with the Delaware-Lackawanna Railroad, this was a complicated effort that
>> required some time and a lot of hard work by the Delaware Lackawanna
>> principles, employees and contractors.
>>
>> Traveling as DLWR 5460, it left Kankakee on Monday, 9/17, and has been
>> making its way east. Today it was in Conway, Pa., and it should be heading
>> to Allentown tonight. NS delivers to the DL at Portland, Pa., on
>> Tue-Thu-Sat.
>>
>> We'll share more details as they become available, and the full story will
>> one day be told. For now we wanted to let everyone know that this
>> significant locomotive has been saved. Once in Scranton it'll be evaluated
>> and a restoration plan developed. Certainly it'll see use on home rails in
>> the Scranton area, and it will be made available to Steamtown National
>> Historic Site when it needs diesels and for special occasions.
>>
>> Built by EMD in April 1952, the 959 was among 15 dynamic-brake-equipped
>> GP7s (951-965) that pulled freight alongside steam power on the Road of
>> Anthracite until the last fires were dropped in Scranton during the summer
>> of 1953. After the Erie merger in 1960, the 959 was quickly renumbered
>> 1278. It became Conrail GP7 5993, later rebuilt by Morrison-Knudson as GP8
>> 5460. Conrail traded it in on new power in 1991, which landed it in the
>> Pielet Brothers scrap yard. A fortunate set of circumstances resulted in
>> the locomotive being set aside, and that led to it becoming the Pielet
>> Brothers shop switcher. Around 2001 the 5460 was sold to Vulcan Materials
>> (Lehigh Stone) in Kankakee, making it only the second locomotive to leave
>> the Pielet Brothers scrap yard in running condition.
>>
>> There will be many acknowledgements as the project moves along and the
>> image of a Lackawanna GP7 emerges. But we are grateful to to the people at
>> the Delaware-Lackawanna, Norfolk Southern and Vulcan Materials, for
>> bringing this worthy project to Scranton.
>>
>> For now, if anyone has pictures of this unit in service in any era or en
>> route to Scranton, please post them for all to see, especially those
>> involved in the restoration. This unit wore three EL paint variations; DL&W
>> black with EL number, EL black, and EL stripes. Attached is a photo of her
>> on the Lackawanna.
>>
>> David Monte Verde, President, Genesee Valley Transportation, Inc.,
>> Delaware Lackawanna parent
>>
>> Mike Del Vecchio, President, Tri-State Chapter NRHS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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