Re: (erielack) Re: EL Consists

[pat.moore_@_att.net]

There are two schools of thought on this...

One way would be to merely transcribe the consist sheets
directly into a spreadsheet exactly as they appear.  It would
be left as an exercise to the reader to double-check some
of the information.

The other way would be to attempt to decode the consist
sheet and put it in a spreadsheet the way you are doing.

I see advantages and disadvantages to both ways.  With the 
first way, it would be a lot faster because you wouldn't have to
 stop to decode everything, but errors will be perpetuated.
With the second way, it will be a lot more work and will take
a lot more time and you run the risk of not decoding something
properly, but will be more useful.

- -pat moore


- ----- Original Message ----
From: Bradley Butcher <llyengalyn_@_hotmail.com>
To: EL Mail List <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
Sent: Tue, October 16, 2012 7:25:51 PM
Subject: Re: (erielack) Re: EL Consists

I've been getting the commodity translation fro. Paul  but you've added a couple 
more. I know the originals were only seven letters but I'm spelling everything 
out to make it more clear. I'm not just trying to recopy the originals so they 
aren't blurry, I also so want them easier for lay people to understand.

pat.moore_@_att.net wrote:

Not to nitpick...well okay I'm going to nitpick...
The commodity category was limited to seven characters,
so it would be MACHNRY (no "I") and PULPAPR (no "E").

There was also...

ANTCOAL:  Anthracite coal (yes, still being hauled in 1975)
BITCOAL:  Bituminous coal
FORWFRT:  Forwarder freight (like LCL?)
METLORE:  Metals and ores


- -pat moore



- ----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Brezicki <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
To: Paul R. Tupaczewski <paultup_@_comcast.net>; EL Mail List
<erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>; llyengalyn@hotmail.com
Sent: Tue, October 16, 2012 5:19:30 AM
Subject: RE: (erielack) Re: EL Consists

I recall that FRUTVEG was used uncommonly; these loads generally appeared as
OTHFOOD. I erred on MEATPRO; it was actually MEATPAC as you listed (I;ve
seen a reference to PHP or Packing House Products in the early 1960's). One
other difference between EL and standard AAR: the latter broke out
"Forwarder and shipper assoc traffic"; on EL it was included in MERCHSE.
This list needs to be added to the consist key on the website.
Paul B

- -----Original Message-----
From: Paul R. Tupaczewski [mailto:paultup_@_comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:46 PM
To: doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net; 'EL Mail List'; llyengalyn@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: (erielack) Re: EL Consists

We'll be updating the ELHS site in the near future with a full complement of
telegraph symbols and some additional details.

For now, here are all the different types of commodities:

AUTOEQU: Automotive equipment - cars, parts, etc.
CHEMPRO: Chemical products
COKE: Coke (what a surprise! :)
FARMPRO: Farm products - animal feed, etc.
FRUTVEG: Fruits and/or vegetables
GRAIN: Edible whole grains
GRAINML: Milled grains - flour, starch, corn syrup
IROSTEL: Iron or steel
MACHINRY: Machinery of all kinds
MEATPAC: Processed meat products - dressed beef, tallow, etc.
MERCHSE: General merchanise
NOMETMN: Non-metallic minerals - talc, lime, etc.
OTHFOOD: Food besides fruits/vegetables/grain
PETROPR: Petrochemical products (tar, oil, etc.)
PULPAPER: Paper-related products (newsprint, paperboard, paper pulp, etc.)
SCRPWST: Scrap waste of all sorts (paper, steel, you name it)
STONGLA: Stone or glass products (marble, glass bottles, etc.)
WOODPRO: Wood products (dimensional lumber, plywood, etc.)

    - Paul

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